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flejter1 10-03-2016 08:42 PM

All New KingTech EPO Jets, by HSD
 
Pacific RC Jets, teams up with KingTech once again!!!

We are proud to present, the all new lineup of KingTech EPO Jets, by HSD Models. HSD is the leading manufacturer of EPO (Expanded Polyolefin), plug and play foam jet designs. EPO is Strong, Durable, Light weight and easy to repair. KingTech EPO Jets will be available in the F-16, Super Viper, and Mirage 2000. We will also have exclusive new color choices, with more being added in the near future. We have a container of KingTech EPO Jets scheduled to be loaded at the end of October and arriving in California mid November.

All EPO Jets will be offered with the KingTech turbine packages. KingTech has just released their NEW state of the art ECU, Pump & GSU electronics package that will be included with all turbines. Yes, KingTech’s Turbines have the Auto Restart, Glider mode restart, self-priming pumps, Touch Screen GSU, and many other features.


We will be offering 3 packages to choose from:


Option #1: K-60G: This will give you all out flight performance and awesome vertical climb capabilities. If you want to push the envelope, this combo is for you!!

Option #2: K-45G: This is our Ultralight package. This version is approximately 5-6 ounces lighter, and with that kind of weight saving in this size of a jet can make a big difference. This is a great Combo for the more relaxed pilot that still wants performance, longer flight times and lighter wing loading.

Option #3: If you already have your turbine and just need the PNP version, we have that available also. Just select the model and color choice, and you’re on your way.


If you don’t want to wait for the container to show up, our website is setup to process orders to ship directly to your door. At this time, we are about 10-14 days for build, paint and ready to ship.


Current inventory coming in the first container:

1) Qty. 25 F-16 Grey

2) Qty. 25 F-16 Thunderbird

3) Qty. 15 F-16 Arctic Camo

4) Qty. 15 F-16 Green / Tan / Brown

5) Qty. 10 Super Viper Ferrari

6) Qty. 20 Super Viper Navy Trainer scheme

If you are willing to wait for the container, Email me at [email protected] with your model & color choice and I will place you on the list in the order the emails come in.

Best Regards,

Dirk & Barry

Midas D. 10-03-2016 11:27 PM

E-Mail sent.

TonyBuilder 10-04-2016 03:36 PM

Awsome, can't wait for the T-45 :cool:

TB

wfield0455 10-05-2016 07:12 AM

I'm very interested in one of the Vipers with a K45 but I'm curious if of would standup to flying of a 450' grass field.. The filed is relatively smooth and I have no problems flying my Boomerang there but EDF jets really struggle to get airborne here unless there is a good head wind..

Wayne

marquisvns 10-05-2016 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by wfield0455 (Post 12264637)
I'm very interested in one of the Vipers with a K45 but I'm curious if of would standup to flying of a 450' grass field.. The filed is relatively smooth and I have no problems flying my Boomerang there but EDF jets really struggle to get airborne here unless there is a good head wind..

Wayne

Perhaps opt for the K-60G2 package.

Regards,
Barry

wfield0455 10-05-2016 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by marquisvns (Post 12264641)
Perhaps opt for the K-60G2 package.

Regards,
Barry

Ok, Thanks for the info...

Wayne

Dr Honda 10-05-2016 09:54 AM

do we have a price with, and without the engine?

gunradd 10-05-2016 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Dr Honda (Post 12264663)
do we have a price with, and without the engine?

Yep go to https://www.pacificrcjet.com/

Then select the drop down to what you want. No engine K45 or K60.

DrScoles 10-05-2016 10:51 AM

Awesome stuff!

Scott Todd 10-05-2016 06:28 PM

"Yes, KingTech’s Turbines have the Auto Restart, Glider mode restart, self-priming pumps, Touch Screen GSU, and many other features."

This isn't stated on the KingTech website. Are these features just for the K45 in the EPO jets or do all of them come with it? I'm considering replacing a Ram500 and this would probably put me over the top :)

flejter1 10-05-2016 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Scott Todd (Post 12264799)
"Yes, KingTech’s Turbines have the Auto Restart, Glider mode restart, self-priming pumps, Touch Screen GSU, and many other features."

This isn't stated on the KingTech website. Are these features just for the K45 in the EPO jets or do all of them come with it? I'm considering replacing a Ram500 and this would probably put me over the top :)

Hi Scott,

Yes, ALL the KingTech turbines that come with the new ECU electronics package have those features.

Regards,

Dirk
[email protected]
[email protected]

flejter1 10-05-2016 08:44 PM

I have had a few questions about the EPO structure & quality. This is the Data I received from the factory:

EPO is a kind of "copolymer", which is produced by special polymerization process. It is composed of 30% polyethylene and 70% polystyrene. The PE component is mainly distributed in the outer layer of the particle, which promotes the combination of the plastic and the combination. The PS component is mainly distributed in the interior of the particles, which has a good supporting effect on the bubble structure.
1, EPO has very high tear resistance, scratch resistance and puncture, but resistance to fragmentation, compared with EPS, EPO need more than 2 times the strength to tear, 2 times larger than the power to expose, more than 4 times the torque to break.



The EPO density, which is used in the version of the KingTech EPO jet, is 20 times of the foaming rate, and the average EDF foaming rate is 40 times.The lower the ratio, the higher the hardness and toughness.







Regards,

Dirk

erh7771 10-06-2016 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by wfield0455 (Post 12264637)
I'm very interested in one of the Vipers with a K45 but I'm curious if of would standup to flying of a 450' grass field.. The filed is relatively smooth and I have no problems flying my Boomerang there but EDF jets really struggle to get airborne here unless there is a good head wind..

Wayne

Buddy of mine flies his with a K45 off a taller grass field than I would be comfortable with...

One reason these were a hit in end is the gear was so tough... IIRC the turbine version gear is dampened

wfield0455 10-07-2016 03:17 PM

How well do these jets break down for transport ? 1 or 2 piece wings, etc ? Also, since I'm interested in flying of of a grass strip, the diameter of the wheels comes into play ? Any info on the wheels and perhaps a photo of one of these jets broken down for tranport ?

DepecheMode101 10-08-2016 05:51 PM

Anyone know if the hardware is good enough for long time use?

Star-1 10-08-2016 07:24 PM

I have about 55 flights on my HSD viper with a K60G. Other than the stickers peeling off after about 40 flights, everything else is holding fine. I did have to glue the rudder to the fuselage after the 52nd flight because I started to see play and I was worried about flutter. The elevator and main wings have spars and they are rock solid with no play. The airframe is holding up fine and I am sure I will reach 100 flights within the next few months.

wfield0455 10-09-2016 07:12 AM

Dirk,

The website lists shipping direct from the factory as $159, which seems pretty reasonable. Any info on how the cost of shipping will compare if we wait for the container to arrive ? I realize the website says they will ship at a "lower rate" once the container arrives but I'm trying to get a rough idea of how much lower so I can better judge whether to wait for the container or not.

Thanks

wfield0455 10-09-2016 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Star-1 (Post 12265681)
I have about 55 flights on my HSD viper with a K60G. Other than the stickers peeling off after about 40 flights, everything else is holding fine. I did have to glue the rudder to the fuselage after the 52nd flight because I started to see play and I was worried about flutter. The elevator and main wings have spars and they are rock solid with no play. The airframe is holding up fine and I am sure I will reach 100 flights within the next few months.

Curios about the K60 Powered Viper's slow speed performance and how well it slows down for approach to smaller fields.

DepecheMode101 10-09-2016 04:03 PM

Where can we see some detailed interior shots and download the manual?

Star-1 10-10-2016 08:57 PM

[VIDEO]https://youtu.be/QWninf3lYpA[/VIDEO

We took this video yesterday and hopefully it answers questions. I have the version-1. The one that Kingtech is currently selling is the V2 that has better upgrades. You really can't go wrong with the super viper.

wfield0455 10-11-2016 02:14 AM

That was a very informative video and yes, it answered LOTS of questions. Thanks.

flejter1 10-11-2016 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Star-1 (Post 12266343)
[VIDEO]https://youtu.be/QWninf3lYpA[/VIDEO

We took this video yesterday and hopefully it answers questions. I have the version-1. The one that Kingtech is currently selling is the V2 that has better upgrades. You really can't go wrong with the super viper.

Star-1,

Nice job on the video and thanks for taking the time to share it.

Correction, You will not find the KingTech EPO Jet at the KingTech website. Pacific RC Jets is selling the KingTech EPO Jets and it is the V3 version Super Viper. www.pacificrcjets.com

Here are some of the upgrades currently being done:

super viper V2-->V3 Feature

Each Landing gear increase two bearings

New UAT

New wing servo,retract,brake,lighting cable all in one connector

Add Build-in smokesystem with 750ml smoke tank

Add Lighting system

New 3D packing box shipping safe

New hydraulic landing gear

New metal canopy locker

New surface hinge

Add radio receiver equipment fixed board



Regards,

Dirk

flejter1 10-11-2016 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by wfield0455 (Post 12265786)
Dirk,

The website lists shipping direct from the factory as $159, which seems pretty reasonable. Any info on how the cost of shipping will compare if we wait for the container to arrive ? I realize the website says they will ship at a "lower rate" once the container arrives but I'm trying to get a rough idea of how much lower so I can better judge whether to wait for the container or not.

Thanks


Hi Wayne,

Sorry for the delay in your answer. It looks like FedEx ground is the best at $100.00 going from CA to MA.

Regards,

Dirk

wfield0455 10-11-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by flejter1 (Post 12266468)
Hi Wayne,

Sorry for the delay in your answer. It looks like FedEx ground is the best at $100.00 going from CA to MA.

Regards,

Dirk

Thanks for the info..

wayne

RobbieDJ 10-11-2016 07:15 PM

SO what kind of speed difference can I expect with a K-45 vs a K-60?

Digital Pilot 10-11-2016 08:31 PM

Well, with 4lbs more thrust i would think it would be pretty substantial.

TonyBuilder 10-12-2016 03:42 AM

My flying buddy's have two, one with K60 and the other with a K45. The 60 has better vertical but the 45 flies really smooth, and light. I think last time he was crusing around at 120mph. Not sure on the top speed but I'm guessing 20-30 more on the 60!

TB

RobbieDJ 10-12-2016 05:18 AM

Well 120 suits me for a stick warmer TB and I want the quality of short field landings.
Thanks.

Vincent 10-12-2016 09:44 AM

The 45oz fuel supply fits the 45 more than the 60. I was getting 5min on my F16 with not much reserve. I'm going to get the version 3 viper and use the 750ml smoke tank for fuel. That would give me 70oz which is perfect for the 60
Vin...

DrV 10-12-2016 08:12 PM

I would like to get opinions on how the F-16 flies. What engine, flight characteristics, quality, etc... Anything will help

Thanks

Midas D. 10-13-2016 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by DrV (Post 12267007)
I would like to get opinions on how the F-16 flies. What engine, flight characteristics, quality, etc... Anything will help

Thanks


+1

Desertlakesflying 10-13-2016 04:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTUDfv1bZ4

Vincent 10-14-2016 05:28 AM

The super viper ver 3 is the better choice for turbine flying. The F-16 flys ok too but the gear / doors are too complicated and not very durable. The super viper is a better flyer and would be more dependable for an every day jet.
Vin...

garyhyde 10-14-2016 03:53 PM

Vincent
Are you flying a V3 viper? I have been waiting sense July 20 ?

Gary

Vincent 10-15-2016 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by garyhyde (Post 12267496)
Vincent
Are you flying a V3 viper? I have been waiting sense July 20 ?

Gary

no I just have the F16 just an observation after seeing the viper jets fly at bitw last week. I don't know what version they were but seeing the improvements posted by Dirk it's going to be a good flyer imo
Vin...

TonyBuilder 10-15-2016 04:28 AM

V1 flies great, but needed the upgrades, weak servos! V2 flies as great but built better, can only imagine V3 is going to be way more superior! I'm waiting to see the T-45.

TB

garyhyde 10-15-2016 05:28 AM

Guys
Are all HSD Viper jets getting the same upgrades from V2 to V3 ? Are all jets the same going to each vendor? It seems that pacific jets can get more paint schemes than other vendors? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? maybe HSD can chime in and let us know.

Gary

gunradd 10-15-2016 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by garyhyde (Post 12267599)
Guys
Are all HSD Viper jets getting the same upgrades from V2 to V3 ? Are all jets the same going to each vendor? It seems that pacific jets can get more paint schemes than other vendors? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? maybe HSD can chime in and let us know.

Gary

Gary pretty sure pacifucjets is the only distrubter now. Only V3 is being sold. Other vendors might have v2s left but once they are gone they are gone. Also parts forV1 and 2 will be limited. The V,3 will be fully supported with parts in stock. I think the first container full should be here in a few weeks.

garyhyde 10-15-2016 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by gunradd (Post 12267628)
Gary pretty sure pacifucjets is the only distrubter now. Only V3 is being sold. Other vendors might have v2s left but once they are gone they are gone. Also parts forV1 and 2 will be limited. The V,3 will be fully supported with parts in stock. I think the first container full should be here in a few weeks.

gunradd

Thanks for info. Made come calls and found out a few things?

Gary

Desert Fox 1 10-15-2016 06:06 PM

Garyhyde

How about sharing what you have found?

Cheers!
Desert Fox 1


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