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F106A 08-08-2005 03:07 PM

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Hi,
I'm wondering what happened to the thread regarding the FED'S efforts to not allow airports to close down when hosting jet events.
Thanks,
Jon

t_burley 08-08-2005 03:35 PM

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the FEDS got it

mvigod 08-08-2005 04:12 PM

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I see it in our holding tank. I don't know why yet? Need mod who moved it to chime in here.

Adil Nasim 08-08-2005 04:15 PM

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Better than:

I can tell you why but then I'd have to kill you! :D:D:D:D

ghost_rider 08-08-2005 04:19 PM

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I moved it to the tank this afternoon pending investigation. It is based on the following alert ticket with names x'ed out for protection.

The thread originator was notified by PM that the thread was removed.


teg-1 08-08-2005 04:24 PM

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ghost_rider 08-08-2005 04:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: heli4me

I understand why it was removed but we all have the right to know what is going on in a timely matter,
There is a lot of money spent in this hobby and a lot more will be , but if this goes thru there will be a lot of stuff out there that will become exspensive garage sale items...............JOHN
John

It was removed pending my investigation. I've placed a request to my contact at AMA and would hopefully get a reply by tomorrow. I do not think that 24 hrs delay will hurt you that bad and thanks in advance for your understanding.


Best Regards


Ben

teg-1 08-08-2005 04:33 PM

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ghost_rider 08-08-2005 04:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: heli4me

24 hrs no it will not, but there was no mention of that earlier...............JOHN

My bad!!. I thought my first statement in post #5 which stated “I moved it to the tank this afternoon pending investigation" was self explanatory. Next time I will go into more full details when I post my replies.

Again, I am awfully sorry for not going into full details. Next time, I will only reply when I have enough time to go into full detailed explanation,


Ben

EASYTIGER 08-08-2005 05:01 PM

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I think you did the right thing, in that so far, it has been nothing but a rumor, I have seen nothing at all to indicate it is anything but completely made up(I don't know if it is, or it isin't) but it will be a much more interesting conversation later on when there are some actual FACTS about it.

F106A 08-08-2005 08:30 PM

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Hi,
I agree with John, if it goes through, it'll end almost all the turbine events in the US, which, IMHO will have an negative impact on turbine modeling as a whole.
We'll have to see how this whole thing shakes out, but, having dealt with the FEDS in the past, I'm not too optimistic on a positive outcome.
BRG,
Jon

teg-1 08-08-2005 08:38 PM

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Thanks , i was begining to think i was the only one that could see what would happen if it went thru.............
But we will have to wait till the powers that be say it is ok that we know something further
or even talk about it........
JOHN
[email protected]

Woketman 08-08-2005 09:24 PM

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Frank Tiano will figure out a way. He's VERY resourceful. He'll have a few jet meets for us.

EASYTIGER 08-08-2005 09:31 PM

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All of his events are at airports. Would hate to see what the price would be to register for a FT event if he had the only place to fly!


At any rate, it would not be the end of flying, but it sure would make it a lot harder for an awful lot of guys, myself included.

But I think it's a pretty pointless conversation, without knowing anything at all about what the truth is.

1Eye 08-08-2005 10:40 PM

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ghost_rider chimed in ...
I moved it to the tank this afternoon pending investigation.
Well, yeah ... with a thread topic like the one originally posted I would've had the same reaction too: Throw a wet blanket over it until you see what shakes out.

Does everybody really need an "airport" to launch/recover their stuff? Shame, shame ... [8D] "Up" here in CO we have to suffer/get by with 650 x 50 runways (when you can find one at a nonhostile location) and density altitude sometimes approaching 10K+. I'm not whining or thumbing my nose but, for us, not having an airport to fly off of is a fact of life already.

Otherwise, it will be interesting to see what Ben, super snooper of the thruth, can dig up if anything. (I think the fundamental problem is that the Feds may not want anything they [even partially] funded closed to its primary purpose.)

Cheers.

Mike

jonkoppisch 08-09-2005 07:01 AM

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What I don't care for is when you subscibe to the thread and you get a notification, click on it and you ... Maybe it should say, thread removed by mod or something.




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J. Campbell 08-09-2005 01:03 PM

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Will post later when thread is revived....Russ

ghost_rider 08-09-2005 02:24 PM

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After further review, it was confirmed that the original post was accurate. Yes FAA is now trying to impose limitations or total ban on airport use for Jet Events.

In consideration with the foregoing, I am going to restore the original thread later this afternoon. I would ask that we exercise caution and watch what we post here as this is a delicate issue and anything we say may be used against us by the FEDS



…..ghost_rider………out……..

J. Campbell 08-09-2005 02:28 PM

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Ok, now i will post, This Cant be JUST rc-jets, makes no sense, it would have to be either a total BAN on flying any RC aircraft at a full scale airport at any time OR it would just be a ban on having to CLOSE an airport to have an RC event... We need to figure out which.. Russ

1Eye 08-09-2005 02:41 PM

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ghost_rider replied ...
Yes FAA is now trying to impose limitations or total ban on airport use for Jet Events.
OK, that is the real problem statement which is a far cry from the title of the thread that you're going to restore. The FAA is clearly *not* posturing itself to "shoot down RC jets ..." [:o] With your magical powers as a moderator, might I suggest a title change to the thread if nothing else?

So ... Back to what Russ mentioned earlier: Is the issue the use of airports by radio controlled, kersosene-burning turbine model jet aircraft or the use of airports by any radio-controlled model aircraft? Or do we wait for the original thread to be restored to ask this question.

Hang in.

Mike

mr_matt 08-09-2005 02:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: ghost_rider

After further review, it was confirmed that the original post was accurate. Yes FAA is now trying to impose limitations or total ban on airport use for Jet Events.

Better have some PROOF for EASYTIGER, Ben!

RE: this issue, I have established communication with my DVP last night and intend to pursue all avenues of recourse via the AMA. Will keep everyone informed (other than ET, he needs video or something)!

NEVER, EVER doubt Skeet....never.....

F106A 08-09-2005 02:51 PM

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I contacted Dave Mathewson to find out if he has any additional information. I have a feeling that the AMA is going to keep this close to the vest and there won't be a lot of info coming from them.
I wonder if this was initiated over the Prado incident?
I was just on the FAA's website and nothing's been posted yet.
http://www.faa.gov/avr/arm/nprm.cfm?nav=nprm
BRG,
Jon

ghost_rider 08-09-2005 02:56 PM

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FWIW, it is not only Jets. It is any RC related airplane activity at any Federal funded airport that would necessitate full or partial airport closure.

J. Campbell 08-09-2005 03:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: ghost_rider

FWIW, it is not only Jets. It is any RC related airplane activity at any Federal funded airport that would necessitate full or partial airport closure.
Well actually that is a RAY of hope, if it includes ALL rc aircraft the AMA is likely to try to intercede, As for BITW, maybe, maybe not, but we cant let them pick on JUST JETS, a closed airport is a closed airport.. BTW, i hope it is just an event thing and not a total ban on operation of non full scale aircraft at a full scale airport period.. Russ

ghost_rider 08-09-2005 03:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: mr_matt

Better have some PROOF for EASYTIGER, Ben!

Lol mr_matt.

I always have proof for my good friend ET. I just tell him to "Phone home"


Ducking under the table waiting for incoming from ET.


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