Re: Re: AMA Classifieds
 

Well said!
Don't forget Ezone, though. Ezone is a VERY nice site, with GREAT info, great people, really well done. Big audience, too. Only...their planes don't have engines. Just batteries. It's sick and disgusting, if you ask me!

Financial particulars...as far as I can see, it's this one site, RCmarket.com, and the other 23 sites just link to it. I doubt if any significant money is changing hands, but who knows? I would suppose AMA gets a couple of cents for each click they send to RCmarket, and that's all this amounts to, in spite of the big-sounding press release.

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You go EZ, put those vacuum cleaner motors back where they came from. E-prop plans are alright if they are small {had plenty of kicks from a E-Zagi}, but EDF's suck S$#%. :D

And sc#$% AMA while I am at it, I have never needed them to pursue my flying, alot of people look at them as the AUTHORITY on having fun with models.

The model airplane police.

FYI
 

This guy on ebay is only taking cash, no paypal (check or wire transfer). Which means you can't use a credit card. In english this means once the money is sent to him, its gone. I bought an item for 400.00 and used paypal, but as a bank transfer, not a credit card, and got burned. Ebay and paypal could care less, filled complaints for weeks, every service I could find. Still have nothing to show for it, and the guy is still on ebay screwing people.

Moral of the story, IF I had used a credit card, the credit card company would have held the payment at my request. THEN and only then, would ebay and paypal care. So next time you buy something through ebay or where ever, use a credit card.
ITs the only way to get insurance on your purchase.

Anyone who takes cash, money order only, stay away from.

Richard Newman

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No offence, but I resent that about staying away from people who dont take plastic. I stopped my Ebay billpoint because I dont feel comfortable with my info floating around the web{partly from my bankers advice}.

I appriciate that it would seem more legit if he did accept cards,but please dont write people off as scammers caus they dont want to have their life in the data bank.

I by all means am not attacking your post, just do some checking on who you send money.

your welcome to your opinion
 

Well, I just gave you 400.00 in advice, you do with it as you wish.

When you use a credit card via paypal or bill point, its as safe if not safer than handing your credit card to some waiter at a restaurant, that waiter can right your card number down (with the exp date and the 3 dig code on the back). Think about it!

Plus if someone did use your card through the web, you still have your credit card company to fall back on. Unlike cash, when its gone, its gone, and like I said, these services could care less.


Richard Newman


Oh, and bank check cards are just like cash, someone gets it, try getting your cash back from your bank! My wife is in the banking bis and this is common, use credit not a bank card! Don't even carry these things!

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Richard,

I dont agree with you it is the same as actually, physically giving it to a buisiness.

That might be fine for a BUYER, but to accept the money from customers I had to put ALL of my banking info etc...

You really cant tell me that you would feel 100% secure with all that info floating, nor just a card, but your banking etc.

Who's sending this $400.00 also?

Re: FYI
 

I occasionally only sell on e-bay! I only take money orders and cashiers checks! Guess I must be dishonest!

OR could it be that I don't want my credit card information floating around on the web? OR maybe... just maybe people write bad personal checks????

Either way I must still be dishonest, Get a clue!!!!!

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If said waiter takes your info and uses it anywhere, its fraud. And that business he works for has no ties to it.

I think your talking about banking info to be verified, you can collect and send without your banking info, up there (on paypal) but they set daily limits and other hassles if you don't get verified.
I have a bank account, setup with very little funds in it, strickly for this purpose, that way I'm covered. When I make a transfer from paypal to my bank, I remove the entire balance.

Look, when you order something from company xyz over the phone via credit card, its no worse than using it on the web, maybe even safer.

The mods are gonna kill this thread, If you want to talk about this further, drop me an email [email protected]

Richard Newman


I dont agree with you it is the same as actually, physically giving it to a buisiness.

That might be fine for a BUYER, but to accept the money from customers I had to put ALL of my banking info etc...

You really cant tell me that you would feel 100% secure with all that info floating, nor just a card, but your banking etc.

Who's sending this $400.00 also? [/B][/QUOTE]

Think this is a scam?
 

Thank you P-51B,

I dont want to gang up on ya Richard, but you can surely appriciate what the sellers are talking about.

GET A CLUE
 

Where in my post did I call anyone dishonest? I did not.

Using a credit card will give you recourse if you get screwed! You said you only sell, go buy a high dollar item cash, and you have no safety net, case and point only, like I said, do with this advise or don't I really don't care! I will never buy any item, any other way, you sell cash money order only, I'll go to the next seller in line.

Richard Newman

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I've got over 50 sales on ebay, and more than that in purchases, I only take paypal. That way my buyers have that safety net as well (and I get my cash in seconds, instead of waiting for a money order or check to arrive via snail mail, oh and lets not forget personal checks 10 days to clear, thats always fun too!). I pass, what year is it?

I see your point and your more than welcome to it, when you get ripped off and ebay says, sorry and does nothing, you will see!

I'm done here, way off topic!

Richard Newman :)

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I have over TEN THOUSAND Ebay transactions. So there. Look it up.
And I DO NOT TAKE CREDIT CARDS. None. No paypal, no Cashcow, no billpoint, and no personal checks.
Why? Too much fraud. From a seller's point of view, it's deadly. All someone has to do is not like an item and initiate a chargeback, and the seller is screwed. And Paypal will freeze your entire account. And stories about getting ripped off that way are legion amongst powersellers.
And no checks. Why? I have $1003 worth of dud checks hanging on my warehouse wall from when I did.
As a BUYER...credit cards are the only way to go! If you don't like the item, just dispute the charge! I have no problem sending off a money order to a seller with good feedback, but CC's are more secure, and certainly, I would not consider sending this kind of money overseas with a money order.
And NOT your debit card! DO NOT USE YOUR DEBIT CARD! It's not the same thing. If you are defrauded, it will take months to get your money back...if at all. The BANK is NOT going to eat your losses. I once had an expensive meal at the Stein Ericcson Lodge in Park City, Utah, charged multiple times to my debit card by a dopey waiter who did not know how to use the machine...it took ALL of my money from my checking account, and I was out $8000(!) for three full months. True story. NEVER use your debit card online.
Richard, who ripped you off? Maybe I can help you...

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10k? Wow! I thought by then you would have a decent share of Ebay.

Billpoint took 5 DAYS do deposit the money from a customers credit card into my bank account..... And the buyer was someone I trust and have done business with before, so it was not him who floated the money for 4-5 days.

I wont let them have my info[financial} again, you wont pay with MO or cert check or even COD, OK fine, but that really shouldent be a "flag" of a scandal.

I got way off topic on this one, sorry guys.

Re: GET A CLUE
 

Think this is a scam?
 

Share of ebay? Yeah, SURE! While I may be the king of vintage balsa, it's fairly small potatoes, Ebay-wise. Try selling stereos or car alarms or something less obscure instead!
Billpoint, well...NOBODY uses Billpoint. It was ebay's failed competitor to Paypal. Paypal won the battle by a long mile, and ebay bought them out. Billpoint will not be around for much longer.
Ebay has tried very hard for a long time to get me to sign up for one or the other of the credit card services...they keep trying to sneak it in, trying to make it look like it is mandatory, all this nonsense. Bottom line is: it's another two percent or so of every transaction, that is a lot of money for ebay...

kinda off the subject but...
 

Reading all of this made me think of one way to really be sure! My girlfriend does business daily to Bali, Thailand etc.. The way she conduct's high cash transfer's for good's are through a broker. Example that I can think of, is those two P80's for sale on Ebay..If I was going to bid on them I would contact the seller and make sure it was ok to have a broker go over after I won the auction and deliver the payment and pick up the item.Now If that aint sweet for a seller to have the cash NOW..and I know it's the real deal. If he has a problem with it..errr might be a sign something stink's!
It does cost about $75 -up but...for alot of cash it's worth it, plus the broker is a shipper and it will be sent the same as through the seller if not better..at least that has been my experience!

Re: GET A CLUE
 

Re: kinda off the subject but...
 

Yup. There are several good escrow services that will broker a deal like this for less than $75.
I have never used one, myself. I HAVE bought high-ticket items online, but I just would rather deal with someone with good feedback, and maybe talk to the person on the phone to get a better idea of who I am dealing with.
If you are nervous...just PASS on the deal. Another one will come along sooner than later.

Re: Re: FYI
 

Back the truck up......why are your panties in a bunch? If it's a high dollar item (>$100), and the seller has questionable feedback, I will only buy if I can use a credit card. Sending cash to a questionable seller is just stupid. Everyone needs to determine for themselves what questionable means.

I too, will stay away from some deals because the seller won't take a CC. You can resent it, but it's just the way it is. It's my money, and I can give it to someone else however I choose. Just as it's your business, and you can take money however you choose. If we can't agree on that, then we can't do business. It's not personal....it's just business.

I also like the speed of CC's. I am usually at my computer when I win an auction....like to snipe. I can send the payment immediately and usually the item will ship the next day. With MO's, I have to take time out of my day to go to the post office and pay extra to send Priority Mail (which I usually do). This might add 4 or 5 days to the time I receive my item. And.........I get frequent flier miles!

Bob

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Like has been already said, plastic is a great thing for BUYERS, but in order to accept the CC's, most services require you to post information that I dont feel comfortable with online. Yes I am paranoid, and I dont trust my personal #'s to these services, they get way more info than they need.

Ebay item id's
 

Okay folks - I promissed I'd get back to you on the official response to Dean's question -- whether it was okay to post Ebay item id's, even though links to Ebay items are not allowed.

Here's the story for now - but it might need to be revised if it is abused...

For cases like this where you are genuinely trying to determine whether there is a scam going on, posting the Ebay item id is okay.

Posting the id in any way that might be seen as an attempt to circumvent the rule about not advertising an Ebay auction here, is not allowed.

Hope that clarifies the situation,

Regards,
Gordon

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Thanks Gordon, sorry this got way off topic.

I think you should shut this one down.

so what is the number?
 

so what is the number?

Re: so what is the number?
 

1780219116

2yes
 

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