Jet Central Flea??
 

Does anyone have anymore information on this turbine?

Mark

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Hi Mark, we already have quite a few customers signed up for this engine when it is released. Felipe has been flying the engine for quite some time now, development flights have gone very well.

Flea specs are:Thrust 6 pounds, weight 12oz (340g), diameter 2.36 inch (60mm), length 5.37 inch (136mm), RPM 80,000-220,000

This gem of a turbine is planned for release later this year. The Flea has the same outstanding throttle response times as our other turbines. With average fuel consumption of only 2 oz. per minute gives flight times of 9 minutes plus gear pass, approach and landing with only 20oz of fuel on board.

The Flea will fly a 9 lb RTF model very nicely.

Thanks for your interest,

Rob.

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Are there any decent ARF that can use it?

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Mark:

My colleague in the UK has provided excellent information about our newest turbine. . .the "Flea."

The Flea on display at our vendor tent during Florida Jets caused quite a stir. It was the most photographed turbine there!

The Flea is currently flying and continued R and D tests are being conducted. Not wanting to release prior to all testing with results to our satisfaction will be the key to the Flea's success.

Autostart will not be available. This will be air start using one of the small hand held blowers such as the Makita or Black and Decker (Home Depot) rechargeable units. No need to drag around a big air tank.

We ([email protected]) jetArtes Gulf Coast currently have four sold with a total of 10 signed up and waiting release information.

Edgar:
This is a simple one. . .the EDF world offers many, many airframes which adapt nicely. We are currently flying an all Balsa Delta wing. Soon to become airborne is Hobby Lobby's L-59. Your choices are many. . .their respective costs are quite low compared to other ARF's.

Last, all North American orders will be processed through jetArtes Gulf Coast. To get on the list, please email me @ [email protected].

Best regards to all,

Eric Clapp
Distributor
JetCentral Turbines
Mfg. of Artes Turbines

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Thanks Eric, I'm looking forward to flying this engine, possibly in something like this Eliminator 90 edf. There must be I think lots of suitable edf airframes.

Rob.

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I was eyeing the Jet Hanger EDF F4D which was built for a 69mm fan.

Mark

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Finally , a turbine small enough for that 100" 747. Can't wait till the R&D in finished.

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How does this turbine differ from the Mw-44 and Simjet 700 other than it is airstart only ?

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Sonnich, Looks like it is much smaller... therefore spins faster...

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It's about 4 onces lighter and 15 mm smaller in diameter.

Mark

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nice.

So when its smaller, its cheaper right :):D

What is the estimated price of it here in Europe ?

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Yes, it's an extreemly small/light engine. No estimate of price in Europe as yet but as with all Jet Central products it will be competitively priced.

Rob.

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After seeing this at FJ-06, I fell in love with it as well. I think this engine is perfect for any of the .45 size DF airframes out there as well as the newer EDF ones. I know that the entire JHh line would be a perfect fit for this as well as the JetMart USA Mig-15. I had one years ago with a K&B .45 / Turbax 1 and loved it. I actually have another kit sitting around and was going to do an EDF version but now.....;)

I think there is going to be a good market for this as long as the price is reasonable :D I can just see multiple engine airliners on the horizon..

Adil

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Someone has got to post some video links of "The Flea" on a test stand :D

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Or installed in the rapier.......

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how would this mod into a Byron A-4 DF.. too small. im not sure of weight. wont have until next week?
just wondering..
Tim

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This would be a fun turbine to put in the JHH EDF F-14 too.

Mark

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What is the attraction to the engine with the already proven wren 44 on the market? USD? 4 oz and 2 pounds less thrust don't seem enough for me if I were getting into a turbine this size. JMO. Please educate me.

Joe

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2 oz per min. fuel :D

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as comparted to how many oz/min consumed by the Wren. which is????????????? ( answer here)

Tim

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4.3 ozs/minute at 195,000RPM

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sweet [8D]

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under 1/2. means twice the flytime.. as little said SWEET> if i convert my DF i know where im looking... after i sell everything else to afford one..lol
Tim

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i have two frames for it
Kyoshos F-86
HOB f-86[8D]

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When will the turboprop version come out? I'm much more interested in turbo props than jets. :D

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Is 195K RPM, six pound thrust? Will like to have an apples-to-apples comparison, as you can always throttle down in the wren.

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WREN WM44 Gold Full autostart:
195,000 MAX RPM
4.3oz/min
8+ pounds of thrust

I know...I have one!

Dave Rigotti

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The flea looks promising!!!

...........................flea................... .......wren
weight..................340g...................... ..468g
diameter...............60mm......................7 5mm
length...................136mm.................... 135mm
fuel consumption....2oz/min...................4.3oz/min
Thrust...................6lbs..................... ....8
price/manual.........$2?00?....................$2295
***Added....Price still being determined on the Flea****

Between fuel and turbine weight the flea looks pretty good. Price?

RE: Jet Central Flea??
 

The turbo prop system is flying now for over eight months. R and D are complete with many hours being put on test flying. Our unique (do not ask) gear box system is turning the prop at 8000 rpm producing in excess of 50 lb of thrust.

We have flown this system on the Graupner Raven as well as other airframes. Currently flying in the Ultimate biplane, we are very pleased.

Production will begin very soon with release later this year. The package will be a complete autostart system ready to mount in the airframe of your choice. Additional turbine exhaust preformed will be included for those who have the need to go further out away from the cowl. With the exception of the ECU, this package is engineered,manufactured and assembled in-house. The sound of this turbo prop will simply astound you!

We will be competatively priced with warranty and service second to none. Stay tuned for information as it becomes available.

Last, for those who want to get on the list, send me an email and you will be added. Please be sure to include a phone number where you may be reached.

Thank you to all for your continued interest and support. You are clearly sending a message that our product is without question a superior product and our service is second to none.

Thank you,
Eric Clapp
Distributor
Jet Central manufactured Turbines
jetArtes Gulf Coast
www.jetartes.com

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how about a one minute Wav file in Windows Media Player to give us a TASTE of the sound? possible? i m willing to bet if it sounds as good as you say ( which im SURE IT does) then you ll only create more pre orders on noise factor alone.....

Tim

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the suspense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![X(]

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With all due respect and speaking personally I think it is unfair to both companies comparing these 2 engines,....2 completely different size/thrust classes.

Both companies have worked extremely hard at creating their own distinctive brands and both engines have/will have their own place in the market.

Rob.

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i agree[:-]

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the comparison was on much fuel was consumed/min between the Wren and the Flea... though they are a bit different, the size of each seem relatively close for end use.... you may get a bit more of the wren but in a smaller jet, it may be a bit much. and vise versa. i dont think the comparison is ment to degrade either product, just show the unknown differances between them... which for me personally, could help determin which is a better fit for a build/conversion.
after all, this is what free trade is all about... design it, build it. market it, sell it. fly it, crash it, rebuild it, start all over...... you ll still end up with as much time and money ivested into either.... no bashing here. just cold hard facts.

no offense intended.
Tim

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I AGREE:D

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What I want to undertand is how much fuel is the wren consuming when it's pushing 6 pound of thrust. Is it more than 2oz/min?

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if i read what rc guy is saying the Wren is eating 4.2 oz fuel per minute giving 8 lbs thrust, if its a simple math product (which i doubt) it sould eat 3.1/oz of fuel per min at 6lbs thrust, but i KNOW its not that simple of a calculation... i would assume there are other factors to weigh in. like load/rpms at 6lbs. fuel/ set up. how efficent the bur is, ect... will all effect fuel per min consumption.....
but i have NO turbine experience, im gettin learnd! lol. but the logistics are there, i just dont know how to arrange them to get the numbers your seeking.
Tim

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What makes you believe that 2ozs at 6 pounds is correct?

Dave

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for the Flea? thats what was stated by the manufacturer.....see begging of thread.
Tim

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Dave