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Robrow 01-07-2007 12:36 PM

Kero start burner durability.
 
I am looking for info from anyone flying k-start engines, how many starts/hours do you have on your ceramic igniter/burner and anyone have to change theirs ?..If so then what was the reason and how many hours had it done ?

Just trying to find how reliable/durable they are in the long term.

TIA.

Rob.

Dave Wilshere 01-07-2007 05:18 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
Rob

Don't know about exact flights logged, some of my people have been using the JetCat unit for most of last year without a problem.
I've sold about 50 kero set-ups and so far had one back that was faulty-it went bad on a very early start.
I think it's fantastic, much smoother start than gas-my Bandit ARF has a P80 kero and I'll fit it to all future JetCat installations.
The G-Booster is Kero only and although it uses a different set up it seems to work just aswell.
Graupner team have hundreds of starts.

Just like electric start, it is the way to go

Dave W

afterburner 01-07-2007 09:54 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
My P-60 kero start failed after 20 starts. Was replaced under warranty by JC USA with the "new and improved" version. I switched the plane over to gas start and I'm much happier.

Marty

Mark H 01-08-2007 12:47 AM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
Having flown the Graupner Booster 160 all last year over 1000 L of fuel, I have had no failed plug on the Kerosine starter , all starts have been good and fault free no gas to carry in plane 1 less item to install and i never liked carrying cans of propane in my vehicle because of the safety implications.
Mark Hinton. Team Hammer

Big Tony 01-08-2007 03:12 AM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 


ORIGINAL: Hammer Mark

Having flown the Graupner Booster 160 all last year over 1000 L of fuel, I have had no failed plug on the Kerosine starter , all starts have been good and fault free no gas to carry in plane 1 less item to install and i never liked carrying cans of propane in my vehicle because of the safety implications.
Mark Hinton. Team Hammer
With burning a 1000l' of kero a little bottle of gas is the least of your worries. Plus I've heard you like it simple. :D

Ant:D

ravill 01-08-2007 01:26 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
I've had 5 total Kero units

2 worked flawlessly for about 20 starts. One of them even survived a crash when the engine didn't survive!!

2 worked for about 5 hours. One of them caused a failsafe on my a-10x on the ground, thank goodness. Sent it back to Jetcat got a new one. The other one went bad after about 30 min. Lost in the mail and never saw it again.

As of last year 50% failure on my kero starts. I have 2 of them now brand new that I'm willing to sell for cheap!!:D

Have since switched to propane and I've never looked back.

Raf

ORIGINAL: afterburner

My P-60 kero start failed after 20 starts. Was replaced under warranty by JC USA with the "new and improved" version. I switched the plane over to gas start and I'm much happier.

Marty

mr_matt 01-08-2007 01:31 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
PM sent

jeanfi 01-08-2007 04:44 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
So what is the real durability of the kero start ?? I have bought it on my P60 (new verion)....

Jeanfi

ghost_rider 01-08-2007 05:20 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 

ORIGINAL: ravill

I have 2 of them now brand new that I'm willing to sell for cheap!!

Have since switched to propane and I've never looked back.

I'll take them off your hands very-very cheap.

ravill 01-08-2007 05:32 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
gimme fifty bucks for each...:D

Raf

afterburner 01-08-2007 05:54 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 


ORIGINAL: jeanfi

So what is the real durability of the kero start ?? I have bought it on my P60 (new verion)....

Jeanfi
I believe Matt had stated in the JC forum that the igniter is good for about 100 - 150 starts. About $1.20 to $1.80 per start. Probably only about twice as much as gas and glow plugs but it's easier on the pocket to keep a few bottles of powermax and a couple glow plugs in your tool box than a spare $180.00 kero igniter. JMO.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_48...tm.htm#4994791

Marty

ghost_rider 01-08-2007 08:07 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 


ORIGINAL: ravill

gimme fifty bucks for each...:D

Raf
Fifty bucks each?. For something you said that is no good?. Come on....you can do better than that.

digitech 01-09-2007 03:32 AM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 


ORIGINAL: Robrow

I am looking for info from anyone flying k-start engines, how many starts/hours do you have on your ceramic igniter/burner and anyone have to change theirs ?..If so then what was the reason and how many hours had it done ?

Just trying to find how reliable/durable they are in the long term.

TIA.

Rob.
so.............
you still want me to mail you something?
:D

Robrow 01-09-2007 12:13 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
For sure I do, did you not get my PM ? ;)

Rob.

DrV 01-09-2007 07:30 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
I had version II which lasted about 40 starts. Replaced with version III by JetCat under warrantee. Now, 25 starts with the new one without problems.


Mike

ravill 01-12-2007 02:51 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 


ORIGINAL: ghost_rider



ORIGINAL: ravill

gimme fifty bucks for each...:D

Raf
Fifty bucks each?. For something you said that is no good?. Come on....you can do better than that.


Sold!! For fity bucks each!!:D:D

Raf

afterburner 01-12-2007 03:42 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 


ORIGINAL: ravill



ORIGINAL: ghost_rider



ORIGINAL: ravill

gimme fifty bucks for each...:D

Raf
Fifty bucks each?. For something you said that is no good?. Come on....you can do better than that.


Sold!! For fity bucks each!!:D:D

Raf
Jeez Raf,
You coulda got twice that for each and not from someone who could delete your posts:D.

Marty

smokin-gun 01-12-2007 03:44 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
thats just greeezin the skids for the future .

Dave Wilshere 01-12-2007 04:11 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
Guys

As with all new things it takes time to get perfection, I've been happy with what we have and know that it's never long before a better version will be released.

Dave W

Ralpher 01-14-2007 12:55 AM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
Friends,
I have a JetCat P-60 installed in my Boomerang Intro, and have been most satisfied with the performance of the kero start option (newest version I believe). Since last September, I have (75) O.K. starts, and (1) aborted start (I had just received the Boomer and forgot to turn on the fuel valve during one of my first flights.) I will be purchasing another similar sized JetCat for my current PST Panther project and will get the kero start option as well. I believe what contributes to the longevity of the plug are a couple of key items: Properly adjusted fuel flow during the start sequence, and a strong charge on the ECU battery. It typically takes between 59 to 71 seconds from when the starter motor first engages until I take command with a green LED at 50,000 RPM on my start up. I have a 6C, 1900 mAh NiCad pack for the ECU, and usually fly (3), eight minute flights per charge, plus taxi and shutdown times. The last time I was out a couple of weeks ago, it was a rare, warm, totally calm winter day. It was getting late and I decided to fly another flight after my third, without recharging. I noticed a considerable increase in the start up time, and flew for just a few minutes and landed, calling it quits. Again, I am very happy with the kero start option and have had zero problems.

ghost_rider 01-14-2007 03:05 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 

ORIGINAL: afterburner



ORIGINAL: ravill



ORIGINAL: ghost_rider



ORIGINAL: ravill

gimme fifty bucks for each...:D

Raf
Fifty bucks each?. For something you said that is no good?. Come on....you can do better than that.


Sold!! For fity bucks each!!:D:D

Raf
Jeez Raf,
You coulda got twice that for each and not from someone who could delete your posts:D.

Marty
You are wrong again MR. BIG MOUTH. He did not sell it to me.

afterburner 01-14-2007 09:18 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post. We encourage the free flow of your ideas, but believe that they can be communicated (and received) much more effectively if you keep things civil. If you have to vent, take it offline. We carefully monitor posts and will ban individuals who engage in offensive conduct within the forums. Thanks. (RCU Policies).Time for the moderator to be moderated.[:-]

ghost_rider 01-15-2007 02:11 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
lol...... who drew the first blood with your false statement with sole intention to flame, degrade, insult or embarrass me?

If you know how to dish it out, be ready to accept it when it boomerangs back to you.

This is a New Year and I do not intend go get into any unnecessary diatribe with any member. I hope with your cooperation, we can make this a reality.

Best Regards and Happy New Year.

Ben

Robrow 01-21-2007 02:04 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 
Anybody using kero start with 160 and bigger engines ?

Rob.

Edgar Perez 01-22-2007 08:32 PM

RE: Kero start burner durability.
 

ORIGINAL: Robrow

Anybody using kero start with 160 and bigger engines ?

Rob.
I friend of mine uses one with a Titan.. Works good.


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