Another Jet Trainer
 

I recently purchased a BobCat and am almost finished with it. I have never flown a jet and I quickly realized I probably should start with a trainer first. I could not find one I liked so I came up with my own design. I started on it several months ago. When I took it to the flying field to show a friend another club member says it looks a lot like the Facet. It is almost the same, but has a fully semetrical low wing. I have a Wren MW54 I am going to put on it.

I have attached a picture. It has a 72" wingspan and is all balsa and plywood. If there is enough interest I may try to kit it.

Any comments or suggestions are welcomed.

Hal

Another Jet Trainer
 

Looks Great! What's the wing area going to be? Do you think that there's going to be enough room for fuel? Keep me posted on your progress, after building a Super Reaper, I've got an itch to build with plywood?

John

wow
 

Looks good! Keep us posted-

Sure doesn't look like a home-made, and that is meant as a compliment!

Another Jet Trainer
 

I think it looks appealing as well. I Hope you decide to move forward with it.

You said MW54. Is that the size the design is targeted for?

Trainer Details
 

It is designed around the Wren MW54. It should weigh around 12-13 lbs. I have a forty ounce tank in it right now, but it could hold a much larger tank. The fuse is around 6 1/2" wide. I will get some accurate measurements, but I would say the wing area is around 850 - 900 square inches about the same as a .60-1.20 size Extra 300, Cap 232, etc. It should be a floater. I will not have retracts but could be built with them.

I'll try and get more pictures as I progress and details of first flight.

Hal

Another Jet Trainer
 

'Sounds better all the time! My Reaper is powered by a MW54 as well and has a 40oz and a 32oz tank in it. With my timer set at 7 minutes I can do a couple of "missed" approaches and still land with "comfortable" fuel. Most of my flying was done at full power. I think that your wing area is about right. The Reaper is a REAL floater at 171/4 pounds and 1650 sq. inches.

John

Another Jet Trainer
 

Nice looking jet, where is your inlet i hope you are not putting
your inlet at the bottom ???

Inlet
 

The inlets will be on the side. I assume they will be made of ply unless someone knows of a better way. I also need some suggestions on where I might find a main gear. I would like to use plastic gear because it holds up better than aluminum.

Hal

Another Jet Trainer
 

I like the lines of the fuselage.
Personally since it is a fully symmetrical airfoil I would shoot for 1100 square inches of wing and no flaps to keep things simple.

I would also put two rudders on the elevator ends. This should give you a lot better knife edge flight and would look different from other kits.

Leave some room in the front for a video camera.

Looks good, please keep us posted

Another Jet Trainer
 

your jet trainner look like this

Another Jet Trainer
 

H.Dale wrote ...
I have never flown a jet and I quickly realized I probably should start with a trainer first.
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Looks great! What airfoil(s) are you using?


Mike

Foxjet
 

Unknown,

Your Foxjet is a very nice looking model. Is it a one-off or an available kit?

Keep it up
 

I just back from Florida Jets today and I gotta say that the Facet was the most interesting new plane I saw. I'm glad that there's more planes like it in the works. A simple plane I can carry around in my car for those quick stops at the field on the way home for a few flights. This hobby gets better everyday.

Sung

Another Jet Trainer
 

Hey dustflyer thats not my plane. I copy it from another post ,
to me it look like (H dale) jet

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

Very nice aircraft (Foxjet) Where can I get one?

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

Hal,

Good looking sport jet. I'm in the process of building one similar to yours - http://www.houstonhobbies.com/jets/s...-pictorial.htm

Moved houses recently so I haven't gotten my new workshop setup just yet. Unknown brought up a good question about the inlets, I've been trying out different configurations on mine and haven't come up with anything that looks appealing to the eye. Let me know what you come up with and post some more pictures.

JR Gautreaux

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

more pics of the fox jet at wings and wheels

http://www.rc-expertise.com/modules/...5/DSCN1278.jpg

http://www.rc-expertise.com/modules/...5/DSCN1284.jpg

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

Hi Dustflyer-RCU and Marcofly.

I have a FoxJet kit sitting here in Denmark. Not sure if they are made any more. They was made by JimFox.

Send me an PM if you have any interest in the kit

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

I got a video of it as well.
Im just having a little trouble
finding ALL the things I recorded.
Oh well.

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

Thanks for all the help on finding a foxjet .I shall try Jim Fox, Let you know what happens

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

Marcofly,

Try http://www.ukjets.co.uk/images/adpics/trade_3.htm

Think is still up and running!

Gazzer

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

Try http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_24...tm.htm#2470325

Also, look at the small ads on www.ukjets.co.uk - the yellow/green one by paul Lewis is for sale.

Dan

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

H. Dale,
Did you ever finish the low wing jet trainer? Did you kit it? I'm interested in just that type of plane for my P-60. I've got it in a Tamjet's F-16 right now, but the airframe is old and doesn't behave well on my current grass runway.
Thanks
Jeremy

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

LDS sells kits which are very similar, one straight winged, the other swept.

http://store.laser-design-services.c...products_id=59

http://store.laser-design-services.c...&products_id=7

I'm a jet inspector in Oz & recently checked the swept wing version for a friend fitted with a Kingtech
K80 & it flew very well. It 's first flight was from grass & there was no shortage of power.

Both of these list a P-60 as a suitable engine but I have a P-60 in a BVM Sabre judging by it's performance
from grass you would have to build the JetMach light for adequate performance from grass. - John.

RE: Another Jet Trainer
 

I've looked over the JetMach series extensively. I like them, but I also like the option of a simple flyer. No retracts to deal with, minimal brakes (required under AMA), simple, slow speed design that can utilize lower priced servos (HS645MGs come to mind). If I can't find what I'm looking for, I'll have one cut. I've drawn up a similar design to Hal's. It's sort of a cross between Hal's, Jim Fox's FoxJet, a Reaction 54, and a FoxCub. But, I'd rather just buy a kit and get to building.