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Str8shooter:
He replied same story to me. ^^

Without you guys, I and several other guys could be victim.
Wow,I learned alot.
Thank you again.....

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Always pay for items through ebay with a CC and use PayPal, never ever just paypal someone without going through the auction site.

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This is a total scam. This same seller Raisethehammer tired selling a Skymaster BAE Hawk with a jet cat P120 in it. That was a combination to 2 stolen RCU adds. Don't even think about touching this. I am also in the Woodland club and have never seen this aircraft before.

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Hopefully, eBay will freeze this auction before it ends, and the person who rightfully owns that account can be found. I feel sorry for the guy, if it's been stolen. If it's fraudulent it REALLY scares me. He's got tons of positive feedback. That's deep.

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This auction is definitely under investigation. I just ended a live chat with eBay. THANK YOU for posting shifty auctions like this! I hope this guy is stopped, even though I doubt we can catch him. The phishing scams used to get info are pretty good. I figure this will be ended before tomorrow afternoon.[>:]

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Hey Guys,, beware there is another guy, maybe same one under different name,, trying to sell another jet for a no reserve price on ebay....Just established the ebay account 05/04/07..Something is not right about this either...Who would sell at such a low price? Check it out....

Item number: 270117416490

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word for word from a previous RCU add by drkwang747 who just happened to post at the top of this page :) should be interesting............

kc

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Dear Sir ,

why do not visit the X-Treme Jets web site for get F-18C new version:

http://www.x-tremejets.com/twe/

the ARTF F-18C Complete Kit: Includes: Dual wall exhaust Stainless pipe, 3 fuel Tanks, Retracts- struts, Wheels, tires and brakes, and all air valves, 2 air bottles,

The price is $1,295 USD


Kit Feature:
all Composite wings with stabs and fins
Carbon fiber tube plug-in for wings spars
Dual ball bearing for elevator
Accurate scale surface with details and full rivets


we also will release the prototype color scheme in future,

Best Regards

Anton

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Anton, how come the struts, wheels and brakes for the F-18 are not listed independently on your site? Suppose you break something on yours, wouldn't it be nice if you could go to your site and order replacement parts for an F-18? Maybe you have a wet start and ruin your pipe, shouldn't the pipe be for sale on your site as well?

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CLASSIC, and pretty much the same format used when I called out a guy on ebay that was selling a Ducati motorcycle for a rediculously low price. Good reading and excellent knowledge on how to keep yourself one step ahead of this style of scam.
Ray

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Yap, I just saw the MB339. I sold it couple months ago. What a world. I can't trust ebay anymore.
This guy using my picture. Of course I sold to other guy not this seller.
I contacted ebay.
This is second warning.

Item number: 270117416490

I'd better stay away ebay. Can't trust anymore.

If I buy anything over $1000,I will buy at the local.
This is sad~~!!!!!

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We have lots of good jet guys in Sacramento
to verify and help in any jet sales coming from here or
dispense the needed reprisals/peer pressure if required.

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so which one of you guys is jetryder007 the proud winner of the auction???

[&:]

kc

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I would be willing to bet that the winner which was a new Ebay member with no feedback was in fact the seller as part of the scam. Same seller burned me and I was bidding it up know it was a scam to see what would happen.

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I emailed the guy to see if he would respond. This is what I received...

In a message dated 5/10/2007 8:14:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

Hi, this is a great price! Would you end the item early for $2000? Also, how can it be shipped. I live in Arizona, and could drive to CA to pick it up. And, does it include how to control it?


Hi

My MB339 Turbine Jet P120 RTF is not on ebay anymore but is still available for sale. My usual schedule was modified because I have to take care of some business, so I had to go to Spain and that's why I have closed the auction.
My final price for the jet is $2,000.00 including all the shipping costs and insurance.
I must add that you'll have the opportunity to inspect the item before you actually pay for it.
I will wait for your email to let me know if you are interested in knowing more details about the purchase.
Thanks and sorry for delay
Daniel

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I responded back, GREAT, where in NV is the jet. I can get there this weekend easily to see it.


We'll see what happens...:D

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According to PayPal the ID given in the original post has the persons account associated with the email address as a valid and verified bank account from the UK and unless there was some major tectonic movement that i wasn't aware of that's not in California.

kc

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I THOUGHT I felt a tremor!?!!;)

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Sorry that was a hot start on my P200 :)

kc

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I wish there was a way to track these guys down and prosecute. Dateline helps but we need more Chris Hansen's in the world. I'd love to show these guys what a hot start feels like...[sm=punching.gif]

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I saw this too and even placed a low bid to see where it would go. I asked him what was included in the deal and if he could send me some pics of the bottom. This was his reply:

"i will borrow my freinds camera to take more pics. Jetcat has less than 8 hours run time. It comes with a transimitor. Buy it now $2200, this is my plane! i can deliver or you can collect. if you want it delivered pay $1100 deposit and the rest on delivery, i accept paypal! i have had loads of offers so if you want this plance let me know asap"

lol "transimitor". After seeing this I knew something was wrong. He never sent the pics + he never replied back after I also asked him for he serial number. Never got that either.

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I hate scammers too so I did a bit of quick research and this is what I came up with.
Call me Chris Hanson.
It appears that: raisethehammer id was registered in the UK ebay.

So I did an easy search on his user ID, raisethehammer

This came up on another forum also a guy from the UK.
His name is David Paulley location below.


" 12-01-2006, 10:40 PM #1 (permalink)
raisethehammer raisethehammer is offline
Newbie Trader

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Leicestershire, UK
Posts: 11
iTrader: (0)

Default Potential lot advice
Hello all.

I was pondering on a pending deal earlier, and I thought where better to come than the wholesaleforums to find advice? I've got a potential deal to take around 60 aged 6-7 brand new child mannequins - full size. They come from the manufacturers at up to £100 per mannequin. I have no interest in selling these on individually, but instead I just want to let them go as a lot elsewhere. So in total they're worth around £6,000 when sold at retail price if they are sold individually. What would you consider a fair price for these items for a quick investment? I don't want them for more than a week or a fortnight at the most. Would anybody else here be interested in purchasing this kind of item if I took the lot? I have my own ideas for what I'm willing to pay, but it doesn't hurt to listen to all sources, eh? Thank you for reading my first none-introductory thread. This is perhaps the wrong area to be asking this kind of thing. If so I apologise.

Best regards,

David
Last edited by raisethehammer : 13-01-2006 at 08:11 AM. Reason: Wrong forum?"


So the Chris Hanson part......

So both registrations in the UK ebay and this forum post for Traders online.
What further ties this together is he is talking about selling mannequins in the post. If you look at his ebay feedback on the 3rd page a buyer made a feedback comment referencing a mannequin shortly after his above post in 06. So maybe this ebay ID is the same guy.

What throws it off is his email address, [email protected] so maybe its hijacked or just a mimic coincidence...FWIW

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This thread is still going??? All the EBAY BACKSEAT QUARTERBACKS...... BORING!!

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This morning the guy sent me another question from ebay stating the following:

"The buyer of the jet was a new member and a timewaster with wrong address etc. Do you still want this jet for $2200? let me know"

I thought EBAY would have shut this crap down by now. I am turning this over to the police.

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Below is my chat session with Ebay. They have verified that this guy is the owner of this account. This thing just gets stranger. I will report this to the "other" agency. I don't know why Ebay can't do this. This is rediculous.z I go by Machine_Gun_Kelly on ebay.

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Here's the transcript of your conversation
Your chat session started.

machine_gun_kelly: Hello,

machine_gun_kelly: I need to report active fraud. A thief is trying to steal money from me and others using someone elses ebay account. This has already been reported to you guys but you obviously STILL have not shut the account down. This makes me believe that you guys are not taking all of these complaints seriously. Who can I contact to make sure that this guy gets stopped? My next move will be to contact the police.

machine_gun_kelly: hello - anyone there??

Katen: Thank you for waiting. I'll do my best to resolve your issue in a timely manner.

Katen: Hello and thank you for contacting Account Security Live Help, my name is Katen. Please give me a moment to review what you have already typed.

machine_gun_kelly: ok

machine_gun_kelly: btw his ebay name is raisethehammer

machine_gun_kelly: item no 290113943841

Katen: Thank you. Please give me a moment to check this.

Katen: Thank you for waiting. After checking this issue, I see that this is not an unauthorized activity on the seller's side. I suggest that you contact us through email so that your concern will be redirected to the department that handles these issues.

Katen: We do have a department working with various local, federal, and international law agencies. While the details of our actions in this case cannot be disclosed, some of the recent news items related to our collaborations with law agencies may be found here: http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter...ase_study.html If you like, you can direct this issue to your local law enforcement agency, as we can not initiate a 3rd party report on your behalf. We would then be happy to assist them in their investigation. They may contact us at the following link with your user id as a case reference: http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidenc...bays-role.html

machine_gun_kelly: your kidding ruight?

machine_gun_kelly: the jet he is selling has already been sold on another site

machine_gun_kelly: he simply took the pictures from that site and is trying to sell the item

Katen: I understand. However, it seems that the seller listed these items. Therefore not an unauthorized takeover issue.

Katen: That is why I have to redirect you to the department that can best assist you.

machine_gun_kelly: what department is this?

machine_gun_kelly: and..what do you mean by "unauthorized takeover"?

Katen: It's the department that deals with Image theft, like the one you reported. You can reach them though email.

Katen: Takeover means that an unauthorized person listed the items without the real owner's knowledge.

machine_gun_kelly: this isnt just image theft. This is image theft AND fraud. He is trying to sell something that he does not own using the images to support his sell. He doesnt even have a jet and he is trying to sell one.

Katen: I understand. That is why I'm redirecting you to the department I mentioned earlier.

machine_gun_kelly: ok I'm sorry I didnt see the other two paragraphs you typed below the first one. I just need to goto that link?

Katen: Yes, you may do that. However, I also suggest that you email us about this as well.

machine_gun_kelly: And is there someone at that link that I can report this fraud to?

Katen: Yes.

machine_gun_kelly: so you verified that this guy actually owns this account and that he is not using someone elses account right?

Katen: It would seem so. Yes.

machine_gun_kelly: Ok - thank you for your assistance. I will forward any info that I recieve from the other department.

Katen: You're welcome. Thank you for visiting eBay's Account Security Live Help.

The agent ended your chat session.