RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Anyone else out there flying a Kfir?

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Anyone else out there flying a Kfir?

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Here are some instillation pictures.

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hey Mark.
I love to see your plane, makes me hurry and finishing my and my partner plane [link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7072266/tm.htm[/link].
As you can see we are almost before primer and we are planning to power it with the Wren Mk3 or the supersport as I want the plane
to be like the real one we are aiming to almost 1 to 1 dry and clean .
We are planning to put the turbine in the tail and gaining a lot of space for 2 liters of fuel right on the c.g. and
a space for the instalation but with little bit more weight , about 0.5 kg more than your plane.
I have a question.... what is the measurement of your best c.g. is it like the plan?

Thank you in advance

Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

hello Avi, how are you doing? I noticed that you are from Israel.I always wanted to see Israel,but the closest I got was this Kfir. The CG is 7.5 inches from the leading edge of the wing.You are doing a great job with your Kfir.I would not recommend installing the engine in the tail because you will need too much weight in the nose to balance it.There is plenty of room for fuel (my Kfir has 62 oz and this is enough for 7 to 8 minuit flight)and there is room for bigger tanks.The wren54 Mk3 will have more than enough power to fly the Kfir and the 54 SS would be insane![:@]

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hi Mark
Thank you for the c.g. measurement.
I have some another questions.... how it flyes, does it have some bad habbits?
are you using gear doors if yes can you put some pictures, because
the mains gear doors scale were very difficult and you know what... the nose also
because there are 3 doors each wheel and the two small that are going with gear like the real
one an it took me almost two weeks to plan and to try make them work,
finally i found a solution but i'm not sure about it.

Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Bandit_av,

The Mirage/KFIR is a very honest flying airplane. It does not tip stall, but rather will do the delta "mush" when it gets too slow. I have a drawing that I can scan and email that shows how to do the double forward nose doors if you need it. I see from the picture that the main doors are doubled on the strut also. Makes me think that the same technique may help on the main doors as well. PM me an email address and I'll get that drawing to you along with some pictures.


Chris

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Hi Chris
It will be great if you could do that . I have done them already but maybe it is required
for some improvements.
I will pm you my e-mail but in any case I need to call you to Jet Hangar in the next few days
because I need somthing from you, but it will clear for me in the next few days.

Thank You
Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Thank you Chris
I've got your e-mail and it is very similar to what i have done.

Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Chris,
Would you mind sending me a copy that drawing for double nose gear door? Im gonna need it as well!
Thanks,
Joey Templeton

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hi Joey
If it could help you I can send, and also if you will want I can
send you a some close photos of the real plane that were very useful for
me when i have done the doors.

Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

That would be great Avi, I do appreciate it. [8D] I hope to have the wing reglassed and sitting on the gear this week!

Regards,

Joey

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Avi, I do not have any gear doors on my main landing gears,however I do have them on my nose gear.The Kfir is a great flying airplane.It can bleed off a lot of speed in a tight turn,but is almost stall proof and it will land very slow.You will love the way it flies.

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hi Joey
send me by pm your e-mail so I could send you all the pictures.

Mark
I'm surely hope that we will enjoy the plane.
I have some big plans to this plane.

Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

I want one!
Any ideas guys....

Ants

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hi Joey,

PM me an email address and I can send it along if Avi has not already.


@ Avi, I wouldn't mind some of those pics if you'd be willing to send to me also?


@ Ants, This kit is available from Jet Hangar Hobbies (www.jethangar.com)



Chris

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Thanks Chris,

I think Avi is going to send them, but I will probably be contacting you guys about the sport wing in the very near future.

How's "DaFatha" doing?:D Please tell him Joey in Va Beach said hello!

Joey.

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Mark,

Im going with the single elevon instead of the elevator and aileron as well. Could you tell me how much travel on the elevons your using?

Thanks!

Joey

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hi
Joey... sent you an e-mail an PM.

Chris ... I'll be glad to send you, there are more than
200 pics ...73 MB I'll try to zip them and send it by e-mail.

Say hi from me to your father and mother , they were very helpful
when I needed them.

All the best
Avi

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

;)Avi,
Thanks a bunch for the photos! The double nose gear door sure is cool! Hope I can get to that point here soon. I have had such a "honey dew" list to do, I haven't had time to work on it[:o]

Joey

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Hello Joey, the travel on my elevator is 1" high rate 7/8 low rate.The ailerons are 5/16 high rate and 3/16 low rate.

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

Honey Dew????? Puhhllllease. You are just too slack to get to work. You could be glassing those wings as we speak.

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

You're just mad because you could of had my Kfir...And I cant glass till my freaking glue gets here!:)

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

JeffH, dont be mad, you can have my Kfir when i am done with it.:DOr you could make SoppyJoe an offer that he cant refuse.I dont think his wife would mind the cash!

RE: KFIR- The Ultimate Mirage!!!
 

i also have been serching for a kfir. my problem is i collect the byron jets and i cant find a byron kfir anywhere. iron bay is all but a wast of time. know anyone that has a byron kfir send them my way so i can fly one too...