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pilott28 08-03-2008 02:12 PM

Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
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Yes, very well. Just installed the new Jet Central Rabbit in my new Bobcat and it operates very nicely. I only put an initial three flights on it today, but here's what I have deduced so far....

1) Weighs in at exactly 2.5 pounds
2) Fuel consumption in an average bobcat flight was around 7 ounces per minute. Most of the flight was spent at less than full throttle, as the engine moves the Bobcat at a pretty good clip.
3) Internal glow plug works fine.
4) We timed acceleration with a stopwatch ... idle (40k) to full throttle (152k) in just a hair less than 3 seconds.

The Bobcat is a custom job BVM did for several of us. Looks great in the air.. extremely visible. A great flying plane.

tothemax 08-03-2008 03:04 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
What is the thrust output of a Rabbit? Are they available now? Cost?
Thanks

zemkes_wolfpack 08-03-2008 05:43 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Steve,

The Rabbit is rated at 19 lbs. and the retail price is $2695. As far as availability, I believe the first 25 produced were already sold.


Jim




edit: Changed thrust to 19 lbs.

tothemax 08-03-2008 05:51 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Thanks Jim. That's the thrust range I'm interested in for my next project. I'll watch for availability.

rcguy! 08-03-2008 07:18 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Is a FOD screen available for it?

Dave

rorrock 08-03-2008 07:27 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
FOD Screens..
We are working on it along with Screens for the rest of the Jet Central Range.

Regards,
Rob

littlepiston 08-03-2008 08:26 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Thats great!! cheaper than my wren SS i like the idea of the internal glow Element!!! i think i know what my next engine will be :D

pratorian 08-03-2008 08:30 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Thrust: 19lbs @152k rpm
Idle thrust: 0.8lbs
Diameter: 91mm
Lenght: 245mm with starter
RPM range: 40k-152k

pilott28 08-03-2008 08:30 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: zemkes_wolfpack

Steve,

The Rabbit is rated at 18 lbs. and the retail price is $2695. As far as availability, I believe the first 25 produced were already sold.


Jim
Jim, according to the documentation I have, thrust is 19 pounds at 152k.

BluFox 08-03-2008 08:38 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Thanks for the question(s). . .

1. Thrust of the Rabbit is 19lbs of real thrust
2. Fuel consumption is as Keith Sievers reported is an average of 7 oz per minute
3. Fod screens are being developed for Jet Central as posted in this thread
4. Price of the Rabbit is $2,695.00 plus $30.00 UPS shipping anywhere in the US
5. Availability . . .please email me or your dealer of choice for the next available delivery date
6. Lifetime Warranty . . .

We are planned for 5 deliveries per week commencing Monday August 4, 2008.

I may be reached through RCU PM or [email protected] anytime.

Best regards to all,
Eric Clapp
Managing Director
Sales and Service
Jet Central Micro Turbines

littlepiston 08-03-2008 08:43 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
One more Eric, whats the wieght Complete with everything. 2.5 is what my wren 44 wieghs with everthing.

pratorian 08-03-2008 09:01 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: pilott28

1) Weighs in at exactly 2.5 pounds


BluFox 08-03-2008 09:05 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
RC Model Freak:

I am enroute back to my office in Florida from Liberty Bell Jet Rally. I will weigh the ancillary parts and post the exact weight Tuesday evening but not later than Wednesday morning. I have a customer owned Rabbit with me so weight will be exact.

Wren 44 and the Rabbit are two entirely different turbines. Our jf50 Super Bee is smaller than our new Rabbit but still larger than the 44. Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Eric Clapp

littlepiston 08-03-2008 09:35 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Rodger that Eric:D

samo 08-03-2008 11:49 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
Idle to full in less than 3 seconds? That is VERY impressive. Does anyone know what the WOT consumption is and what half to full throttle time is?

Andrew

GSR 08-04-2008 12:39 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
"Will a Rabbit Fly?" Last one I popped with a .223 flew pretty far. S

Gaspar 08-04-2008 02:03 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 

19lbs is very conservative, all Merlin90s (JCentral Rabbit sister) build until now had given over 20lb during tests. Real calibrated power in ISA conditions.

Gaspar

digitech 08-04-2008 02:36 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
We flew The Merlin 90 at a airshow in Germany this weekend.
we did about 17-18 flights

i count 8 minutes full throttle with 2,5 liters of fuel,average flight time is about 10 minutes.
i dont count the startup time and taxi out,i just take off and start timer.

performance :
luckely there where 3 more boomerangs there.
it Flew circles around a Elan with a Wren SS,one Elan with a P-120SE could NOT outrun the Merlin 90 by any chance.
landing speed was even more impressive , since the hole model lands at half the speed then the P-120SE.
and weighs less.
acceleration is really good , and there is no noticeable delay when you fly it.
i did some low speed aerobatics , where you need fast acceleration.
i just was amased how fast it got to full power.
the sound i can not even discribe , it is really special.
ps: i flew also the same Elan with a P-120SE , and you can feel the differance in performance since the weight is higher.


GSR 08-04-2008 03:50 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
What is the price on the Merlin 90? Scott

digitech 08-04-2008 06:59 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: GSR

What is the price on the Merlin 90? Scott


1999,- incl 19% vat

long pre order list

available somewhere in september..

afterburner 08-04-2008 07:49 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: GSR

"Will a Rabbit Fly?" Last one I popped with a .223 flew pretty far. S
How could you tell? I mean, what was left?:D

Marty

FalconWings 08-04-2008 09:04 AM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: GSR

"Will a Rabbit Fly?" Last one I popped with a .223 flew pretty far. S
LOL!

rorrock 08-04-2008 06:02 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 
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For anyone interested, here is a pic of the latest pre-production testinng FOD screen.
This one meets our requirements for how it affects the engine when fitted.

Regards,
Rob





causeitflies 08-04-2008 06:05 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: rorrock

For anyone interested, here is a pic of the latest pre-production testinng FOD screen.
This one meets our requirements for how it affects the engine when fitted.

Regards,
Rob





Another tea strainer...

rorrock 08-04-2008 06:26 PM

RE: Will a Rabbit Fly?
 


ORIGINAL: causeitflies

Another tea strainer...
Actually if these were Tea Strainers we'd have probably been in production by now.
In fact this is the third lot of mesh we have tried and works well for up to the faclon engine.

We have a stronger mesh for the eagle and rhino due to the mass airflow these engines draw, and this is the next prototype to be tested.

The final design will have clips to fit to the starter motor "legs", as well as a protective ring around the base to keep the unit from scratching the engine housing..

Rob


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