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drdoom 10-31-2008 02:21 PM

New I/O Interfece , from JetCat
 
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Has anyone Seen or is anyone using the new version of the I/O interface Board from JetCat. Pix in July August Jet Power Mag. Page 63.
I didn't see it on their site last month when I ordered another old style I/O board.


Frank Sopwith 11-01-2008 01:31 AM

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Same question here; read about it,
they even mentioned it would be suitable for twin engine use (got a 1/5 scale Gloster Meteor project...... with two P80's))
But never find anything on the internet yet?

anybody?

Frank

sc0tt 11-01-2008 04:17 AM

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Here's info staight from Jetcat Germany. I was unable to find an english version.
http://jetcat.de/downloads/jetcatkatalog20081k.pdf - see bottom of page 35

Ali 11-01-2008 05:18 AM

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We have had them in stock for a few weeks now. Was going to post it on here but didnt want to get another slap on the wrists! ;)


CraigG 11-01-2008 06:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: sc0tt

Here's info staight from Jetcat Germany. I was unable to find an english version.
Thanks Scott. Funny how some German words are easy to translate/understand, like "Technische Daten" but even my German heritage and high school German class don't help with words like "stromversorgungskable" or "bedienungfreundlich".

Anyhow, I got the idea and the new I/O looks more convenient than the old style, particularly for charging.

Craig



Ehab 11-01-2008 07:25 AM

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So, one can now charge the battery w/o disconnecting from the ecu using the provided cable and charge jack, right?

av8rk 11-01-2008 07:34 AM

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does JetCat USA sell this item yet?

icepilot 11-01-2008 08:02 AM

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Hi guys - if you copy any text you find in German websites and open this site: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/?fr=bf-home - you can simply paste the text into the page, select your "to and from" languages and in a second it has translated it
to - well, at least something that you can make out quite easily, although it isn't perfect English! Try it - it's quite amazing!!:D

Tor

LED-I/O interface with load entrance Art. No.: 61168-00 • Direct load entrance for the Turbinenakku • Suitably for all ECU versions • GSU connection type • Supply inclusive powersupply cable to the ECU, 40cm long Technical data: Dimensions: 50x21x25mm Weight: 25 gram With this I/O interface it is possible it the cables to the ECU and that Accumulator always firmly connected too left, the load socket for the Turbinenakku sits convenient at the top side of housing. The small blue key serves as before for training the transmitter, and/or also to the manual operation of the cool down procedure etc. Not suitably for battery chargers with reflex load procedures. Deactivate (reflex load procedures if necessary in the battery charger)

CraigG 11-01-2008 08:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: icepilot

Hi guys - if you copy any text you find in German websites and open this site: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/?fr=bf-home - you can simply paste the text into the page, select your "to and from" languages and in a second it has translated it
to - well, at least something that you can make out quite easily, although it isn't perfect English! Try it - it's quite amazing!!:D

Tor
. Not suitably for battery chargers with reflex load procedures. Deactivate (reflex load procedures if necessary in the battery charger)
Looks like we need one more pass through the translator to make sense of this. What is a "reflex load procedure"?

Moerig 11-01-2008 08:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: CraigG


ORIGINAL: sc0tt

Here's info staight from Jetcat Germany. I was unable to find an english version.
Thanks Scott. Funny how some German words are easy to translate/understand, like "Technische Daten" but even my German heritage and high school German class don't help with words like "stromversorgungskable" or "bedienungfreundlich".

Anyhow, I got the idea and the new I/O looks more convenient than the old style, particularly for charging.

Craig



"stromversorgungskable" ie current sourcing cable? power supply cable?
"bedienungfreundlich" ie user friendly
im not even german..

Moerig 11-01-2008 08:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: CraigG



ORIGINAL: icepilot

Hi guys - if you copy any text you find in German websites and open this site: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/?fr=bf-home - you can simply paste the text into the page, select your "to and from" languages and in a second it has translated it
to - well, at least something that you can make out quite easily, although it isn't perfect English! Try it - it's quite amazing!!:D

Tor
. Not suitably for battery chargers with reflex load procedures. Deactivate (reflex load procedures if necessary in the battery charger)
Looks like we need one more pass through the translator to make sense of this. What is a "reflex load procedure"?

"reflex load procedure" < reflex charge method> is the useless feature on some chargers called reflex charge or negative pulse charging.

icepilot 11-01-2008 08:46 AM

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The charging station cyclically discharges an accumulator (1) using the so-called reflex charging method, whereby the discharge time is short compared to the charging time and the discharge current is larger than the charging current according to a defined reflex factor. The accumulator is earthed at its earth side (15) via a load resistance (R1) greater than its internal impedance and there is a discharge circuit (6) that connects the accumulator terminals (2,3) via a discharging resistance (R3) that is smaller than the load resistance by the defined factor. The load resistance is outside the discharging circuit An Independent claim is also included for a method of charging at least one current storage device or accumulator.

CraigG 11-01-2008 09:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: icepilot

The charging station cyclically discharges an accumulator (1) using the so-called reflex charging method, whereby the discharge time is short compared to the charging time and the discharge current is larger than the charging current according to a defined reflex factor. The accumulator is earthed at its earth side (15) via a load resistance (R1) greater than its internal impedance and there is a discharge circuit (6) that connects the accumulator terminals (2,3) via a discharging resistance (R3) that is smaller than the load resistance by the defined factor. The load resistance is outside the discharging circuit An Independent claim is also included for a method of charging at least one current storage device or accumulator.
Say what? I think I understood the German better. What I really want to know is if it will work with my Hobbico AccuCycle Elite charger.

digitech 11-01-2008 10:25 AM

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stromversorgungskable" ie current sourcing cable? power supply cable?
"bedienungfreundlich" ie user friendly
im not even german..


i think its about a Bycicle return?

Ali 11-01-2008 10:47 AM

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:D Trust you Sandor!

Banker 03-03-2009 08:49 PM

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Does anyone have english instructions for this unit yet? I just got one with my P160.

JoeEagle 03-05-2009 12:35 AM

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i just got my P160SX last week but only had 30 seconds to open the box and say AHHHHH then put the top back on. so do all the new P160SX's have the new board?? cool?!!

digitech 03-05-2009 02:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: JoeEagle

i just got my P160SX last week but only had 30 seconds to open the box and say AHHHHH then put the top back on. so do all the new P160SX's have the new board?? cool?!!

no these are for sale as extra,s

Duncan 03-05-2009 07:14 AM

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I believe Ali is selling all new turbines with the new funky IO board

Banker 03-05-2009 07:23 AM

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Are there instructions. There are none in the supplied manual with my 160.

Ali 03-05-2009 07:29 AM

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Yes indeed! I am going to start ( Have not yet ) Shipping all my Jet cat turbines with the new I/O Board. As well as the F.O.D Guard or oil that they already come with. I am also going to look at offering my turbine sales with larger Lipos as standard as well. Some people ( Me included ) Are looking for a bit more punch and duration that the stock 2200 one gives. Oh and of course we will still offer the nicad versions for those that do not want Lipo .
Basically soon you will be able to taylor turbine packages so you can spec them how you like. We had one last week where the customer only wanted the turbine by its self. no other parts! No problem, it was done.
Banker. Do you need instructions for the 160 or the I/O Board? 160 should have been on the box, if not they are downloadable. As for the I/O Board I have nit seen any as yet. When I get back from Florida jets I can ask the question for you.
Regards Al

Banker 03-05-2009 08:21 AM

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Ali:

Thanks. I just needed the new I/O Board instructions. However a nice guy from Iceland posted a pic of what goes where. The only question now is whether you can quick charge A123 battery thru the I/O board with out disconnecting the ecu.

Thanks again.

Banker

mr_matt 03-05-2009 09:01 AM

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Let me help clarify.

The restriction is for a reverse pulse in the charge cycle. This is normally called a "REFLEX" mode in most chargers.

REFLEX mode is only used for NiCADs, not for the factory supplied LiPos. So if you are using LiPos you can use any charger you like without hesitation. If you are using NiCads you are on your own, you have to personally make sure your charger is not using a negative pulse if you are using Ni chemistry batteries!.

I don't know as much about A123 so you would need to read the manuals on your charger to see if they ever use a reverse pulse. If they don't you are fine.

Hope that helps,

drdoom 03-07-2009 11:09 AM

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Is this available yet in the USA?

JoeEagle 03-07-2009 01:43 PM

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I know that many are at FJ.

does anyone know how much the new IO boards will cost?

thanks




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