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E.N.T. 05-05-2009 10:25 AM

UAT Position
 
I've seen a lot of UAT positioning. Which is the best position and where??




Hector

AndyAndrews 05-05-2009 10:36 AM

RE: UAT Position
 


ORIGINAL: hmarmaizmd

I've seen a lot of UAT positioning. Which is the best position and where??




Hector
at a slight angle where the two parallel fuel lines (fuel tank and fill line) face up.

drdoom 05-05-2009 10:37 AM

RE: UAT Position
 
Where ever you have a spot where you can monitor it. You don't want it 5 meters from your fuel pump.

E.N.T. 05-05-2009 10:41 AM

RE: UAT Position
 
Hi! Andy. Then why I've seen a lot of guys placing it completely upright if the pickup
tube doesn't extend all the way to the back??

Hector

AndyAndrews 05-05-2009 10:51 AM

RE: UAT Position
 


ORIGINAL: hmarmaizmd

Hi! Andy. Then why I've seen a lot of guys placing it completely upright if the pickup
tube doesn't extend all the way to the back??

Hector
space limitations usually. It will work completely upright. In fact I have one in my F-16 that is completely upright. What you dont want to do is lay it down on its side (even with the fuel lines on top.

You defininetly want to be able to see the lines to check on them for air bubble leaks while running if possible. I always use clear lines on fuel for this reason.

Ron S 05-05-2009 10:51 AM

RE: UAT Position
 
Hector,

If you orient the UAT as Andy indicated, then when you refuel the model thru the UAT, you will displace the air bubble (with fuel) out of the UAT and thru the tank system. If the UAT is vertical and you refuel thru the UAT, you'll be starting with a bubble in the UAT already as you've noticed (under the screw-on cap). I don't think it is necessary to have all the air out of the UAT, but I'd say that less is better.

I orient mine as Andy states, whether it is a UAT, or a similar tank with a centered fuel filter...

Guillermo Ibanez 05-05-2009 02:11 PM

RE: UAT Position
 


ORIGINAL: Ron S

Hector,

If you orient the UAT as Andy indicated, then when you refuel the model thru the UAT, you will displace the air bubble (with fuel) out of the UAT and thru the tank system. If the UAT is vertical and you refuel thru the UAT, you'll be starting with a bubble in the UAT already as you've noticed (under the screw-on cap). I don't think it is necessary to have all the air out of the UAT, but I'd say that less is better.

I orient mine as Andy states, whether it is a UAT, or a similar tank with a centered fuel filter...
Hi

I wonder to know, why the UAT is not as similar as a fuel tank, with a flexible hose with clunk that pick up fuel from its bottom?

If all the tanks and the one that works as UAT are filled full without air, why is needed an ultimate air trap? While this tank is full, being feeded by the other tanks, where is going the air come from?

Guillermo

AndyAndrews 05-05-2009 02:15 PM

RE: UAT Position
 
It would if your clunk had the same type of bubble removal medium or similar as a UAT. Some people do this and it seems to work fine.

Guillermo Ibanez 05-05-2009 02:46 PM

RE: UAT Position
 


ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews

It would if your clunk had the same type of bubble removal medium or similar as a UAT. Some people do this and it seems to work fine.
The big difference with UAT then is that with a clunk, you can use all the fuel in the tank just in case.... of course you are going to flame out but in case you need 30 or more seconds of power......

With UAT you can use only 3/4 of the fuel-..... I really don´t know if with a 4 Oz UAT, for a P-80, 1 Oz (1/4 of its capacity) of remaining fuel will give you 30 seconds of flight before a flame out.....?

Guillermo

AndyAndrews 05-05-2009 03:01 PM

RE: UAT Position
 


ORIGINAL: Guillermo Ibanez



ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews

It would if your clunk had the same type of bubble removal medium or similar as a UAT. Some people do this and it seems to work fine.
The big difference with UAT then is that with a clunk, you can use all the fuel in the tank just in case.... of course you are going to flame out but in case you need 30 or more seconds of power......

With UAT you can use only 3/4 of the fuel-..... I really don´t know if with a 4 Oz UAT, for a P-80, 1 Oz (1/4 of its capacity) of remaining fuel will give you 30 seconds of flight before a flame out.....?

Guillermo
mine will suck dry with the UAT.

Vincent 05-05-2009 03:05 PM

RE: UAT Position
 
There is no way a clunk will follow the fuel in a 4oz header. It would be best to mount a fixed pick up in the 3 dimentional center of the tank, even this way i believe you can get air if the tank goes 1/2 empty. With a UAT the perforated bladder type pick up it would work even if 1/2 the fuel is gone and still not draw air.
V..

Guillermo Ibanez 05-05-2009 03:57 PM

RE: UAT Position
 


ORIGINAL: Vincent

There is no way a clunk will follow the fuel in a 4oz header. It would be best to mount a fixed pick up in the 3 dimentional center of the tank, even this way i believe you can get air if the tank goes 1/2 empty. With a UAT the perforated bladder type pick up it would work even if 1/2 the fuel is gone and still not draw air.
V..
Got it

No more questions about UAT, at least from my point o f view.

Mine is installed exactly as Andy said in post No. 2

Guillermo

bcovish 05-05-2009 03:59 PM

RE: UAT Position
 
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Here's mine. Many flights this way

E.N.T. 05-06-2009 09:52 AM

RE: UAT Position
 
I've always placed mine slightly upwards as per instructions.
Just wanted to get some input as to other positioning and,
reasoning behind it.



Hector


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