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Gary Jefferson 01-07-2010 01:52 PM

Metal Finish Tutorial
 
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I have developed a method to achieve a metal finish that is easier than any other method I have seen and much less expensive than all of the pre-packaged paint systems on the market. It produces a metal finish that is as good as any of the expensive metal paints I have seen and you do not have to be a paint expert to accomplish the metal finish. I am going to provide a tutorial and a list of the items needed so that others can benefit from this method. Using this method anyone can have a metal finished plane even if you do not have any painting experience. If you already have the clear and a gun you can create this finish for less than $100.00 for a 1/5 scale airframe. The amount of clear used is very small because of the mix ratio.

Here are the items you will need:

Rustoleum Black Primer Item#2089 (the can actually says Dark Gray)
Rustoleum Metallic Paint Item#7718 (Can has a chrome lid)
Automotive gloss clear with hardener
Automotive Thinner
400, 600, 800, 1000, 2000 grit wet sandpaper
space heater
spray gun for applying the clear
Tack Cloth (old tack cloth is better)

This tutorial assumes that you are working with a composite surface airframe. The same results could be accomplished with glassed wings I suppose.

1) Start by sanding the surface of the part with 400-600 grit paper to prep for primer. After the surface if roughed follow with 800 to smooth slightly.

2) Now, turn on your space heater and warm the Rustoleum black primer. Test if it is warm enough by shaking to see if can gets cold again. Once warm spray a fairly heavy wet coat of black primer. You only need one wet coat. Allow to dry overnight unless you have a method to heat the part to cure it completely. Most other paint methods use a primer plus black base coat. Using black primer eliminates one step and saves time. Some systems also apply clear over the black, this is not required or necessary.

3) Once dry, wet sand the primer with 800 grit paper, followed by 1000, and then 2000 grit paper. By now the finish will be very smooth. Use a moist paper towel and clean the part. Look for any areas that need additional sanding. If the part is ready, take a dry paper towel and polish the part until it begins to become shiny. Rub for a few minutes and you will see it take on a polished look. The black surface is now ready for the metallic paint to be applied. Clean with moist paper towel one more time if needed, I usually don't. The smoothness of your part at this step determines the smoothness of the metal finish. Metal is smooth and does not look like paint, take your time to get it right now so you get a nice smooth metal look.

4) Warm the metallic paint and test by shaking as before. Warming the paint makes it thinner and will allow you to spray a very fine mist of the aluminum onto the parts surface. Follow the next steps closely to achieve the metal finish. Wipe the black surface with a tack cloth to remove any dust before spraying metal paint.

5) Applying the metal paint: Move fairly quickly when spraying the metal paint and start on one side of the part and make overlapping passes with the metal paint just like painting any item. The only difference is that you must completely cover the area you are working on before making the next overlapping pass and working your way from one side of the part to the other. You cannot come back to an area that has already been sprayed so make sure you have complete coverage while spraying that area and that it has the polished metal look. You will immediately see the high polished metal finish develop as you make the second pass over the top of the first pass, creating the wet look.

DO NOT try to re-coat any part after the metal paint has dried. If you have not achieved the desired effect then sand the metal off and re-coat with black so you can start over. Follow the paint method above and you will never need to do this!! Allow the metal paint to dry overnight or you may have problems with applying the clear.

DO NOT touch, rub, wash or wipe the surface of the metal paint finish before you apply clear, except with the tack cloth as explained below..

If any one need further explanation of this let me know, it is not easy to explain in words,


6) Use a tack cloth and very, very lightly wipe the surface of the metal finish before applying the clear. If you have a new tack cloth, remove it from the bag and open it up to allow it dry some before using it on the metal surface. If it leaves any streaks you will see it when you apply clear. I used an old tack cloth, just make sure it is not dirty.

7) Applying clear coat: Mix your automotive clear gloss paint with recommended hardener and reduce 300% with thinner. Spray a light mist coat (it must NOT be wet) and let dry 20-30 minutes (you can probably apply decals now). The purpose of the mist coat is that it seals the paint and allows for a heavier coat of clear without affecting the appearance of the metal finish. Once dry you can spray a normal wet clear coat to finish sealing the metal paint and decals. One coat of clear is usually sufficient, too heavy and it looks like paint. If you have applied decals then obviously you need to mist coat those as well before the final wet clear coat. Let it dry and you are done.

The finish produced is excellent and easy to achieve. You can simulate a semi-gloss finish or a high polish finish depending on the costs of clear applied. Again, just be careful as you can make it look like paint by using too much clear. Ue only as much as is required to produce the finish you desire.

I am glad to help anyone who needs help with a project using this method.

Gary


















Falcon29 01-07-2010 02:01 PM

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Great info Gary! can we see a sample.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ular_smile.gif



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Gary Jefferson 01-07-2010 02:33 PM

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Roman, I posted a couple of pictures but the reflectivity of the metal finish makes it very difficult to take good pictures. Since we have snow here I also don't have much natural light for photos outside either. If the sun ever comes out again, I will get some more pics. The finish I am creating is a polished surface and it is amazingly realistic.

Gary

Falcon29 01-07-2010 02:39 PM

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Looks great and yes I did notice the snow on your window sill, same story here. What Sabre are you working on?




Roman

Gary Jefferson 01-07-2010 02:44 PM

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It is the new 1/5 scale Skymaster...

dasintex 01-07-2010 02:48 PM

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Gary,

Thanks for the Tutorial; I was looking at another thread titled 'Best Way to simulate Polished Aluminum'

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9293502

A guy from Autralia used a product called 'Alsa Killer Chrome' Spray Can Application, same technique as yours, Black Gloss Primer than the Metalic Spray paint; this Alsa stuff is on the expensive side available in the USA .

http://www.alsacorp.com/products/kil...llerchrome.htm

From your pictures and the ones I posted here from that other thread, the finish is similar to each other, yours would be considerable cheaper; any thoughts?

Gary Jefferson 01-07-2010 03:06 PM

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I was reading the same threads last week. I did some research on all of the different metal products and they all have one thing in common, they are somewhat difficult to use and get consistent results for the guy that paints one plane a year. I figured that by the time I finished experimenting and figured out how to make the system work that I would likely waste hundreds of dollars. If you want to try the method I posted it will cost you about $10.00 in materials and the results will be comparable. I have a can of Kustom Krome mirror paint that I just paid $50.00 for 8 oz. or something and it isn't any better than the Rustoleum and way more difficult to get right consistently.

I have been flying jet around 10 years now and seen all of the best metal finishes and this is comparable in appearance. I would at least give it try before you go spend a fortune on other products.

If I can help you with the process you are welcome to call me anytime...

readyturn 01-07-2010 05:14 PM

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Gary,

Great info... ;)

Thanks
Rick

u2fast 01-07-2010 05:20 PM

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gary, never mind the silver, what on earth is the white fungus creeping up outside your window. by the way, the 100 is smoking. got the landing down too. barry

mselby 01-07-2010 05:53 PM

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Really good tutorial Gary,
Mike

Gary Jefferson 01-07-2010 06:29 PM

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gary, never mind the silver, what on earth is the white fungus creeping up outside your window. by the way, the 100 is smoking. got the landing down too. barry
Barry, glad to hear the F-100 is flying well. Send me some pictures!! Now that I can paint a nice metal finish I might have to build another F-100 someday...

Gary Jefferson 01-07-2010 06:31 PM

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Barry, I could do without the white fungus for sure. After living in the south (Dallas) for a few years when I was younger I have learned to hate cold weather.

Molnar142 01-07-2010 09:39 PM

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Gary-

NICE!! I haven't seen those pictures (since you developed a method for the clear).

If you would like another plane to keep your technique and skills sharp, I'll gladly drop off my F-104 for you!

Mike

myork 01-07-2010 10:52 PM

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Looks great Gary and thanks for the info. I'm going to have to give this a shot on my F-86.

igoren 01-08-2010 12:09 AM

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HarryC 01-08-2010 10:47 AM

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Gary, have you got Rustoleum's part number for the black primer?

tia

Harry

Gary Jefferson 01-08-2010 10:57 AM

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Matt, are you going to have the F-86 done this year?

Gary Jefferson 01-08-2010 11:14 AM

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Harry, I posted the paint numbers into the first post to keep the information consolidated.

Bob.R 01-08-2010 12:06 PM

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Gary, very cool. I tried the HOK stuff - not easy to do and pretty pricey.

Regarding application of the silver, you say that you cannot come back to an area that has already been sprayed. When spraying a long fuse, does the last lengthwise pass blend OK with the first lengthwise pass as you work your way around the fuse to your original starting point?

NickC5FE 01-08-2010 12:33 PM

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This looks absolutely awesome!!!!!!!! Will try it out on my Panther whenever i get around to it...

u2fast 01-08-2010 07:13 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfXFrThpL30 here you go gary. barry

Gary Jefferson 01-08-2010 07:25 PM

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Barry, that was a nice flight, and landing. Your camera man must have been drinking allot of coffee that day.

Thanks for the video, Gary

u2fast 01-08-2010 08:05 PM

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and thanks for the jet. how is the 86 doing? barry

Gary Jefferson 01-08-2010 08:33 PM

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Barry, just glad to see you enjoying it...

The F-86 is coming along pretty well. I have most of the gear installed, retractable landing lights installed, doors, speed brakes, control surfaces all installed and setup. Working on the paint right now.

Still allot of work to do though...


Do you have any new projects for the winter?



Gary

JeffH 01-08-2010 09:21 PM

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Could this be done in individual panels? I know that you would have to tape some panels, silver them, then light clear them, let cure, then move on. Do you think this would add some panel variation or just look like crap. I realize this would add some serious time to the painting, but wonder what it would like.
Jeff


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