Scratch built F-4 (VIDEO)
 

Yeah I know I may get flamed by all you turbine drivers but ehhh here are a few pics of my pusher prop F-4 I am building. 85" long and almost done.

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That's some damn nice work.. I'm ALWAYS impressed by someone who takes the time to build these days.. You read the forums around here and you see people calling assembly of ARF's as build threads..

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Nice work..like to see the end result. good luck! , Love the phantoms..........

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looks like a great candidate for edf conversion, to me.

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You can't get flamed for building like that!
Way too impressive.

Do you have any build pics?

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Looks real nice to me!

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Very impressed with your work!

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Hi::)

Pretty Phantom. congratulations for the job.;)



Carlos.
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Excellent work... seems that it will be e-powered?

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Wow thanks guys for all the kind words. here are a few build pics. I have the tail hook working and put burner lights on it as well.
Yes electric powered, pusher prop. 12X6 prop 14,000 rpm..13 pounds thrust..AUW 13.5 lbs. 57" wing span, 85" long

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Here are a few more build pics. Made the ejection seat handels out of 4-40 rod and just bent it to shape. Cockpit pics are pics of an F-4 cockpit and shrunk down on the computer and printed then cut out and glued to the tray. I hand made the seats with 9mm depron foam.

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Here are three you tube videos back when I was finishing up the retracts. Also burner lights and hook operation. I still had the 6mm depron tail fethers for show..didn't have the foam cores sheeted yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRS6gS4mT8Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMoPce29b58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz-Tcfupql4

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And a few more build pics. I made the HUD out of a plasitc magnet case and grinded it down flat. I will line the gear bays with photos of an actual F-4 gear bay. Ahh the pic of the box with the foam cores ariving in the mail..I sent the patterns to foamfatory.com and he cut the cores for me. Canopy is from a BVM F-4, I hand made the tray.

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Going with an odd paint scheem on this one. A german Red Baron scheem celabrating 50 years of "Pabulous Phantoms" I sent a bunch of picturs to Callie graphics and she made up some vinal graphics for me..looks like she did great job on them. The pics of the graphics of course still have the paper cover on them but it is see through enough to kind of see the graphic under it.

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Cool scheme,I am suprised this is the first time I have seen it.

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"Phantom Facelift" thread.....

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Hi, your Phantom II is awesome. Nice work indeed.
One thing that has me curious thou. How did you prove that a 12x6 at 14K rpm makes 13lbs thrust?

Thanks.

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dude!!! [sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]

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Man that rascal is foam huh? dang great work.i have seen this done on a smaller scale,but yours takes the cake.you gotta keep us informed on this one plz.thx.

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Fantastic work for sure.

Dan

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I havn't proved it yet. Scorpion calc is a motor/prop calculator that gives an estimate of performance, it comes out to 13 pounds thrust.

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Thanks. I'll check it out. What motor did you go with, ESC, # lipos?

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Motor is a Scorpion 4020-12 that will be running on 8s 5000mah batts useing a CC ICE 100 ESC.

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I have to admit that Im very interested to see how much thrust your setup will make. I have an OS 91 powered propjet that weighs about 13 lbs wet. The OS with tuned muffler I think makes about 9.5 lbs thrust at best.

If your setup can do what the Calc v3.33 suggest Id seriously consider changing to an electric setup.

Did you notice on the calc that the APC 12x6 E and the 12x6 EP (pusher I think) vary by almost 2 lbs thrust? E about 13. EP about 11 lbs.

Cheers.

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This is one impressive project. Tonopah is not exactly a modeler's or even an aerospace hotspot - other than TTR and all the Sandia folks that run it - I suspect you pretty much had to go this project completely solo. [8D]