Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hi guys!
I recently bought a Flycamone ECO to use in the cockpit of my F-16. It works great when operated
manually, but when I plug it into my Futaba FASST 14 ch receiver, it does not react to any kind of
input, even tried reverse, a lot of different ATV setting etc - no go! So I had another one sent from
UK, same thing. Tried hooking it up to my old reliable Futaba 9c, no go. Tested both on a JR Spektrum -
works like a charm!?! [:-] So has anyone plugged these into a Futaba system and made it work? We tried
2 different Futaba FASST receivers and the 35 Mhz today, 4 smart guys present - nothing!

Any tips, anyone???

Thanks,
Tor

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Tor, have a look at this,

http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.u...=1&Navmain=R/C equipment&subcatname=Flycam & accessories

Gary.

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Thanks, Gary - this is the ECO version that is powered from the Rx and comes with the servo cable, ready for Rx operations,
so it needs nothing but a free channel to operate (or so they claim..:D)

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

I would have a guess that the flycam has fallen victim to the very low voltage that Futaba is now putting out on the data signal pin. There have been other devices which have not worked with the modern Futaba receivers because of this. The devices read the voltage as permanently low signal or as non-existent, so they don't see the PPM wave form to respond to. Ideally Flycam should modify their design to work with Futaba's low voltage, but failing that a signal booster between the Rx and the Flycam will probably fix it.

Harry

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hmmmm. Strange it works on Spektrum & not Futaba.
I would have tried like you max ATV, can't think what else could be different, do you have or have you tried subtrims to try and alter the endpoint throws?

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Ignore that, Harry is probably right.

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hi Tor,

Just a guess, but this could be caused by the signal voltage (limited to a low level by Futaba) and the battery supply voltage being too far apart.

You can reduce the battery voltage or you can boost the servo signal voltage.

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Wonder if that switch will work with all Ver. of the Flycams??? Like to find one stateside!

Roy

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hej Tor
Du behöver en sådan här så fungerar allt igen.
http://powerbox-systems.com/e/powerb...rker/start.php

Vi syns i sommar
Anders

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hej Anders!
Vi koblet den opp gjennom en powerbox, det fungerte ikke, og jeg trodde også at den gamle 35mhz-mottaker hadde
høyere spenning?

I tried all the ATV/Reverse/Subtrim tricks in the book, and even connected it through a powerbox, still nothing... :eek:
And I thought it would work with the old 35Mhz-rx...but no..

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hi Tor
I am not shore this will solve the problem but give it a try.
Set up the travell adjustment to max, it sounds like a to short adjustment.


/Anders

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

I did all that, travel to both max, min, middle, sub trim from top to bottom, 4.8V, 6 V - nothing...

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Tor: Like I said to you earlier today, Switch to a JR ;) :D

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Staale -
I'd rather collect old rocks and play with them in my back yard ;)

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

how do you make the flycamoneeco work manually?
thanks dave..

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

You just connect it to a free channel so you see from the green LED that it has power.
Then you push the small white switch (dot) at the bottom of the print, and it will start
recording, indicated by the LED turning red.

Tor

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

but i got mine in a futaba fasst receiver and i connect it up and no light comes on at all?
Dave

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

The problem may be that the voltage from the Futaba receivers is marginal for these -
I have sent a request to the manufacturer and will hopefully have an answer tomorrow.

Tor

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hi Tor,

No offense like I said I think this is the problem.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9520403

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hi Matt - how do I boost the voltage, do I need a small servo booster?

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Hi Tor,

Yes, you need to get the signal voltage (yellow or orange wire) and the supply (battery) voltage closer together. You can do this by boosting the signal or lowering the supply voltage

As a quick test, have you tried this device with a plain 4 cell NiCad? This will get the supply voltage lower and closer tot he regulated output of the Futaba.

Regards,

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Interesting problem. But ofcourse if you really need a powerbox to get the camera working I wil say the Flycam guys really have a bad design.
It can make sense that it doesn't work on Fasst but when you have also tried the 9C i will say the design is bad. This should be compatible with most rc stuff. You could for a test try channel 9 on the 35 Mhz receiver with the 9C. This is a on/off channel and not proposional. It may make a difference.

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Thanks for the tips, Matt and Ela - just tried both your suggestions, still nothing. NiCd 4-cell and channel 9 on the 9c, absolutely no
reaction at all. Both cameras work just fine on the Hitec servo tester and the JR radio - very strange...

Tor

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

OK guys - I just spoke with the manufacturers of Flycamone, and a technician told me that the first (present)
badge of cameras are in fact NOT working with the Futaba systems, as they have a different pulse length than
all other systems! They will have new (and smaller) cameras that work with Futaba systems ready in about 3-4
weeks and offered to replace mine with the new ones, and I am happy with that!

Problem solved - myth confirmed!!!:D:D

Tor

RE: Flycamone ECO and Futaba - PROBLEM SOLVED!
 

Or that Futaba have a bad design. Lowering the signal voltage to 2,5V or something, when the standard have been 3,5 volts or something for decades that all manufacturers and aftermarket products like servos, powerboxes etc. use.
There also have been some issues with the compability between some powerboxes and Fut 2,4 6014 receiver. They had to go back to the manufacturer for a uppgrade in order to work reliable.

http://www.aircraftinternational.com.../PowerBox.aspx