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smitty1001 08-05-2010 12:01 PM

Air Fill Question
 
What are you guys using for air fill interfaces? After many flights I'm looking for a better solution than tire-style filling. Iuse the BVMcheck valves and the threads are getting ground down - harder to get a good "bite" etc.

Thanks in advance!

Jgwright 08-05-2010 12:14 PM

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After trying a lot of poor valves I decided on only using BVM fill valves. I push a piece of freshly cut 3mm tube inserted inside the inner part of the valve to pump them up, so don't touch the threads at all and nothing gets worn. They are very good valves but very expensive, but a leaky valve is no use at all!

John

Harley Condra 08-05-2010 12:14 PM

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With the BVM Air Fill Valve, you can insert a length of air line into the hole in the valve.....use an extra air fill valve in the chuck of the compressor, or a BVM Air Fill Chuck...P/N BVM2192.
Cut a slight bevel on the end of the hose, and do not insert it more than 3/16" into the fill valve..Use Caution....there is a very small "Duck Bill One Way Check Valve" inside that could be damaged if the tube is inserted too deep.

ddennison 08-05-2010 12:28 PM

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I just use the bicycle tire fiitng like in Harley's first picture directly on the bvm fill fitting. Then you dont need to use anythign that neads to be screwed/threaded on.

Dave

DelGatoGrande 08-05-2010 12:29 PM

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i have seperate systems and fill them at once by using a Robart Air-Line Quick-Disconnect




http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_89...tm.htm#8938541



http://dreamworksrc.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=821


my 2c

marc s 08-05-2010 12:48 PM

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The smoothest and nicest non return valve I have used ever...
SMC make them.

marcs


invertmast 08-05-2010 02:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: ddennison

I just use the bicycle tire fiitng like in Harley's first picture directly on the bvm fill fitting. Then you dont need to use anythign that neads to be screwed/threaded on.

Dave
same here

smitty1001 08-05-2010 02:05 PM

RE: Air Fill Question
 
That's what I'm currently using - just seems the more flights Iget, the more times Iget a false seal because the threads are getting worn down

STKNRUD 08-05-2010 02:35 PM

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Jet Model Products:


TAPERED FILL ADAPTOR WITH MINI-COIL

A simple but effective way to couple your air pump to the 1-Way fill valve. Just push the tapered nylon fitting into the valve to create a temporary seal. The line automatically recoils, stays neat and out of the way. Available in red, green, or yellow.

TAPERED FILL ADAPTOR WITH MINI-COIL 15.00

sskianpour 08-05-2010 02:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande


i have seperate systems and fill them at once by using a Robart Air-Line Quick-Disconnect




http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_89...tm.htm#8938541



http://dreamworksrc.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=821


my 2c
+1

Todd sells the Robart Quick Disconnects and they are SOOOOOOOO easy and clean. I think Tam uses them too. I love em, am converting all my jets to it. No more pain in the ***** threads and stripping. [sm=biggrin.gif]

Jgwright 08-05-2010 02:48 PM

RE: Air Fill Question
 
My inflator came with a needle for inflating balls. I simply pushed the 3mm tube over it and the other end is treaded and the rubber clamp of the pump fits over it. Works well at no extra cost.

John

smitty1001 08-05-2010 03:09 PM

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<font color="#00265e" size="2">sskianpour</font>,

so one end goes in place of your BVMcheck valve and stays with the plane, the other end stays on your compressor?

Jgwright 08-05-2010 03:28 PM

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OK perhaps this will help.

John

DelGatoGrande 08-05-2010 03:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: smitty1001

http://<b><font color=''#00265e'' si...our</font></b>,

so one end goes in place of your BVM check valve and stays with the plane, the other end stays on your compressor?
yes this is what i also do

i just hook up one conection and everything fills up

the photo show what stay in the plane

smitty1001 08-05-2010 03:33 PM

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John, thanks! Iwas probably unclear, Iget the "hold the tube inside the BVM valve method," Iwas interested in any other ways besides the widely used tire inflation method and tube-inside-BVM-valve. Like the Robart - a positive locking type connection. Thanks for your help!

sskianpour 08-05-2010 03:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: smitty1001

http://<b><font color=''#00265e'' si...our</font></b>,

so one end goes in place of your BVM check valve and stays with the plane, the other end stays on your compressor?
Smitty1001, Precisely. One end goes in place of your BVM check valve and stays with plane as your NEW check valve, other end stays with compressor, that way you just click the to connect, fill up, then unclick them. ZERO air lost during "unclicking" process and no having to thread and unthread fill valve.

Its just cleaner and easier, just like DelGatoGrande shows in his photo.

Gordon Mc 08-05-2010 03:38 PM

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I love the quality of most BVM products, but the air-fill valve is not one of them. I've had too many of them develop leaks.

I now use something that is far cheaper yet far more resilient in my experience, and also has more flexibility in plumbing options.

$3.35 for the male AND female parts: http://www.clippard.com/store/displa....asp?sku=MQC-3 (valve + filler adapter)

$1.90 for just the female part : http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...asp?sku=MQC-V3 (valve only)

Then you choose the fitting you want on the bottom:
- different barb sizes such as http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11752-2-PKG for regular airline, http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11752-4-PKG for larger (4mm / 5/32")
- different barn TYPES, including a Tee with 3 barbs on it http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=XT2-202-PKG , an L with 2 http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...?sku=TT2-2-PKG , plus swivels and all sorts of other neat connectors.

Above prices are from my last purchase from Clippard - may have gone up a bit in the meantime.

Gordon

smitty1001 08-05-2010 03:46 PM

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John, I just rigged up a setup like your pic - works fine, I'm gonna roll with that and see how Ilike it. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f.../thumbs_up.gif

Gordon, that looks like really nice hardware and VERYreasonable in price! You have any pics of it installed?

Others, interested in the Robart setup as well, looks clean and light.

smitty1001 08-05-2010 03:51 PM

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Gordon, better yet, looking at this pic, do Ihave operation of this correct?

Gordon Mc 08-05-2010 04:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: smitty1001

Gordon, better yet, looking at this pic, do I have operation of this correct?
Yes, that's correct.

For your question about pic's of the valves installed - here's [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=8289307]a post of my jag[/link] that shows 3 of these valves installed allong with 3 SMC gauges (http://www.coastpneumatics.com/gauge/gauges2spec.htm part G15-P10-N01)

Gordon

smitty1001 08-05-2010 04:30 PM

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Gordon, thanks! Nice application in the Jag, would definately use these in a new install and at a fraction of the cost of the purple! Iagree - about the only thing of BV's that seems could be better.......

noahb 08-05-2010 08:39 PM

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I use the Clippard air fill ones as well. They work awesome. Also, why you are there pick up some of there tee's and crosses. They are very good, solid built unit. They don't have nipples threaded in to the body, but the whole body is one unit. Also, there airline is very supple and tough. I use all there air supply stuff except for pressure gauges. I like there airline much more then the stuff typ. avaliable from jet retailers. It seals much better and have yet to have any leaks at any fittings on retracts, or fittings. IMHO.


enforcer158 09-13-2010 02:13 AM

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Aloha guys..

I need some help with my tires. I just bought some 4" dubro tires to up graded my 3 1/2" foam tires. Now here's my problem. The tires come with a valve on the side of the tire, I have a device that screws into the valve, what kind of inflator do I use? is it the small hand pump like to ones used to pump up balls. There was no instruction on the tire card or any explination on how to put more air into the tires.
Thank you very much for any and all the help you can give me on this situation.

Mahalo from Kauai,HI.
Mike..

Harley Condra 09-13-2010 06:47 AM

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Use a small hand pump like the one from Robart.

felker14 09-13-2010 07:16 AM

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Jet Model Products, makes good valve and tapered filler.


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