SFrisco Kid

Hey all,

I've heard through the string that the savage can be modified to be faster than stock. Maybe even faster than t-maxx.

1. Is this possible?

2. Would the mod be expensive?

2. Can anyone point me in the right direction to learn more about how one might go about this?

Thanks!

nib55

I take it you own a Savage....

Can you lay a query of mine to rest?

Can the savage reverse?

SFrisco Kid

I don't own a Savage yet...still doing my homework to make a decision.

In my research I have found that HPI is working on a reverse module that will bolt on to the trany. Apparently it is coming very soon.

nib55

I know it sounds trivial....

But thats what put me off on the Savage.
The thought of me blitzing it down my street....

Only for it to smack in to something...
Or get into a life or death situation..
where you cant even reverse out of it!!

Thats harsh having to turn the thing around yourself everytime it gets immobilised..or stuck ramming in to something.

LandShark

SFrisco Kid

are you living in San Francisco?

i just got my savage on thursday, i have done 5 tanks to break in.

even it was running extremely rich (1/4 turn richer than factory

setting), you still can see the power, also potential. (it is still on

first gear)

with appropriate needle setting, it might be faster than 30Mph.

that is enoguh for MT. if you like high speed, dont buy MT.

cmk241

Reverse has been out for (2) weeks Towerhobbies, put one on my Savage helps out alot go to hpi and download movie of reverse; along with dual exhaust both upper and lower aluminum control arms, aluminum shocks from hot bodies and a 16t cluthbell, adjustable camber link all I can say is "WOW"

Chris Kruegel

03 DSG Snake

CMK, where did you get the dual exhaust? Pics?

cmk241

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/4decks/ this link is the man I bought it from ebay, hope this helps
Chris Kruegel

DFF

1- Yes it is.

2- No, it won't but it can if you really want to spank him

2 (again ?) Go the MaxxTraxx forum, there is a whole bunch of excelent thread about it

Further explanation on price versus performance:

Stage 1
The cheapest mod to be on the same boat as the T-Maxx would be:
A- New pipe - A RB086 unit will greatly improve top speed.
B- Clutch tuning - Lighten your clutch shoe for faster take-off - I found that drilling 3 mm holes at the extremity of each shoe does a pretty good job.
C- In order to gain exptra mph on the top speed dpt, use a 15 or 16 teeth clutch bell.
D- Run a least 20% in the .21BB, I run 25% with good result.

Those mods are the minimum to get at least equal accel and top speed as a new T-Maxx (around 40 mph). Cost around $70 to do it.

stage 2
This stage will kill any New T on the accel and top speed dpt:

Stage 1 + new New engine - Either OFNA .25 or Hyper 8 ports are excelent choice

It will cost you $70 for the stage one + $130 for the new engine.

The savage will pull out wheelies and will become a true beast (around 45 mph)

stage 3

This stage will set you in a whole different class as the new T.
It should not even be compare to it, since the price is so high.
Not recommended for beginner. Expect 50+ mph no less...

Stage 1 + RB engine like a WS7 or C5 with Pull start conversion
You will have to spend $350 for a S7W with P/S and $400 for a C5 with P/S (christmas special, hurry-up !!!)
Might want to hold on a bit on this until someone actually do it and see what happens with the tranny.
Might have to spend a few extra box in heavy duty dogbones...

Only my 0.02 Euro

DFF

LandShark

DFF, you forgot the reverse module, that will increase speed alot

SFrisco Kid

Thanks DFF!

Is exactly what I was looking for!

SFrisco Kid

LandShark,

How does the Reverse Mod increase speed?

To your earlier question...yes, I live just outside of SF.

LandShark

i dont know how the reverse module increases speed, but someone who installed it said so

DFF

Like opposite direction speed, right ? LoL

DFF

LandShark

it is like a small gear box

revditup

I put an XTM 24.7 engine on my savage ( $139.00) 2.6 Hp . It screams now. Even with the stock pipe.
Tmaxx's don't have half a chance
No sluggish putting around for me. I don't know how fast it is right now but I will soon cause my freind is a cop with a radar.

motocrosserjm

All the people out here that go out and buy a new engine for there savage truck are nuts. I took my to the LCH and that did some porting and polishing and crank and rod work for $60 and it keeps up now with 1/8 buggys on the track. I spank Tmaxx's bad ,blow right past them. I have 15 tanks through it after this work and it still has high comprsession run great.
So it can be modifed for a little cost. Trust me its worth it.
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Bluehydro8

The truth is, we're not nuts. We are just power hungry. One of the cool things about the savage is that you can change out engines with no problem. I just put the >24-7 XTM in mine and I bet it will outperform most trucks out there, including yours. I will give you credit. I like the idea of the port and polish, I probably would not have thought about it. Nice job Motorcrosserjm.

stadium-truck1

about how much might a reverse module cost?

SmokyTyrz

Unless someone can explain it otherwise to me, I'd have to say there is absolutely no way the reverse module would increase acceleration or top speed.

And, not a single person has had a positive thing to say about the dual-exhaust. Most opinions suggest that it actually robs power because it does not have the proper conical/venturi design as the RB would. And I wish people would quit calling it a DUAL exhaust because a DUAL exhaust is not possible with only a single exhaust port.

The Reverse module costs approx $40, depending on where you pick it up.


MotocrosserJM: Did you do any of the port/polishing work yourself? This intrigues me and I'd like some more information. Please PM me with any tips, suggestions, pics, or other info you may have about the process. Thanks man!

motocrosserjm

I didnt do any of the portig and polishing my self i had a guy i meet at the track do some to one engine, and a guy from LCH do the other. It is a nite and day diffeence. My savage pulls wheelies all the time. It has so much power.
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Avalanche

The reverse module will decrease speed. It adds weight and parasitic power loss. The real serious T-maxx guys are paying extra money for a kit to remove their reverse modules in order to gain every little bit of power they can. As far as the "dual" exhaust goes, its a complete scam. All it is is copper plumbing pipe. It may sound faster but is has none of the necassary "tuned" charecteristics that 2 stroke engines need to perform properly, like an expansion chamber and the properly sized outlet. Take a look at any 2 stroke motorcycle pipe and you will see what I mean. Ask anyone who knows about 2 stroke performance what that plumbing pipe exhaust will do to performance if you dont believe me. All the parts to build that exhaust are about $4 at home deopt, and they are asking $40 and $50 on ebay. I cant believe anyone buys those things. Oh well, to each his own.

Bluehydro8

The reverse module is estimated to cost around 45-55 bucks. I am with you Smokey, I also believe there is no way that the reverse module would increase speed. If anything it might even decrease the speed. If you really want to go with the inexpensive speed boost just get a different spur and pinion. That’s always worked in the past.

Unstable

I dont knwo about you but i find my savage hits peak speed REAL quick. if I lean it out a bit I hit second gear almost before its gone a truck length. a think a taller gear would make this thing rock (wonder how fast you can get top end with a loooong run and geared up to the max it can take?) for bashing around the yard though its plenty fast enough but when i hit the streets I want more.. of course if you gave me a 100MPH rc truck I probably still would say this but thats not important right now.

rivhunter

Reverse moduel for Savage Tower 37.99

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXDSD1&P=V

I've read 150+ threads and read nothing bad about the savage Thanks guys...I'll have one tomorrow!!!!