what .21 to choose
05-18-2003, 11:44 PM
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what .21 to choose
i'm getting the hardcore .21 conversion what is the best engine my lhs says the hyper 21 i want some thing i could rebuild if i hade to and that can beat a hyper 21
05-19-2003, 12:28 AM
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You can re-build any of them,
It just depends on how much you are willing to spend on a re-build?? O.S. engines cost big time to re-build (At least they do to me )! 
An RG-X .21 cost about $65, an RZ-V01B will cost you $110! A Kyosho .21 will run you about $40 and a Duratrax will be about the same at $42. Now if you go crazy and buy a super hot engine there re-build kits are much much more!
An RG-X .21 cost about $65, an RZ-V01B will cost you $110! A Kyosho .21 will run you about $40 and a Duratrax will be about the same at $42. Now if you go crazy and buy a super hot engine there re-build kits are much much more!
05-19-2003, 01:31 AM
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I don't know where they sell them but,
05-19-2003, 06:57 AM
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If you are going to spend $600 on an engine then you might as well make it worth your while, first off you will have to put a pull starter on that black magic, and for 2 you cant buy the to in a package, now if you are looking for some serious power with a pullstart, you need to talk to Robin at Unlimitedengineering, and have him hook you up with a Rody modified Rb C5. You can pick up that package for around $500-600, but I must warn you if you go with this engine you will have to seriously upgrade your drivetrain, and Robin can help you with all of it!!
Link to Robins page
Info on the Rody C5
Link to Robins page
Info on the Rody C5
05-19-2003, 12:40 PM
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Re: Then you can get,
Originally posted by Ledgendary
A Black Magic for $600!
It has 2.85HP! That should do the trick!
A Black Magic for $600!
It has 2.85HP! That should do the trick!
05-19-2003, 01:11 PM
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Re: Re: Then you can get,
Originally posted by jgrepps
Do know what your reading, but the site says the Black Magic is only 2.0hp.
Do know what your reading, but the site says the Black Magic is only 2.0hp.
It says in the Mag that the Maranello has 2.97hp!
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Uhhh your crazy I paid $350 for my Black Magic
They do claim 2.85 but it dyno tested at 2.3
Put a pull start on a Black magic? All I can say is.. if you can get it to go through even one compression cycle with a pull start, I'll give you a $100 bucks!
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They do claim 2.85 but it dyno tested at 2.3
Put a pull start on a Black magic? All I can say is.. if you can get it to go through even one compression cycle with a pull start, I'll give you a $100 bucks!
ram
05-19-2003, 06:33 PM
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I am not crazy,
I only told him what I read in the Mag! I personally would not pay that much for any engine but, if he wants to he can go right ahead! As far as a pull start I don't think it will take one but, if it could I would use a drill starter! Maybe that C5 is more like the deal he is looking for!
05-22-2003, 06:51 PM
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How about the maranello
The maranello has 2.97hp and reaches 44,000rpms.
Here http://www.hobbyhome.net/rossi/maranello.html
http://www.hobbyhome.net/carengine16_up.html
And it looks awsome!
Here http://www.hobbyhome.net/rossi/maranello.html
http://www.hobbyhome.net/carengine16_up.html
And it looks awsome!
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It says on the website,
That it only kicks out 2.3HP!
These specs subject to change without notice as they are supplied from the manufacture in Italy.
Weights are in grams and measurements are in millimeters
Motor Part# Ports CC HP RPM Weight A B C D E F G
R12 Pixie Black 138R12 3 2.1 1.3 39,000 220 32 16 53.5 76 26 39 26
R12 Pixie Outlaw R168R12/ R170R12 5 2.1 1.4 40,000 220 32 16 53.5 76 26 39 26
R21 Black Magic 125R21 5+2 3.5 2.0 37,000 337 37 21 63 90 31 45 27.6
R21 Maranello 145R21 6+2 3.5 2.3 44,000 340 37 21 63 85 31 45 27.5
These specs subject to change without notice as they are supplied from the manufacture in Italy.
Weights are in grams and measurements are in millimeters
Motor Part# Ports CC HP RPM Weight A B C D E F G
R12 Pixie Black 138R12 3 2.1 1.3 39,000 220 32 16 53.5 76 26 39 26
R12 Pixie Outlaw R168R12/ R170R12 5 2.1 1.4 40,000 220 32 16 53.5 76 26 39 26
R21 Black Magic 125R21 5+2 3.5 2.0 37,000 337 37 21 63 90 31 45 27.6
R21 Maranello 145R21 6+2 3.5 2.3 44,000 340 37 21 63 85 31 45 27.5
05-22-2003, 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by BUGGIES_R_US
Uhhh your crazy I paid $350 for my Black Magic
They do claim 2.85 but it dyno tested at 2.3
Put a pull start on a Black magic? All I can say is.. if you can get it to go through even one compression cycle with a pull start, I'll give you a $100 bucks!
ram
Uhhh your crazy I paid $350 for my Black Magic
They do claim 2.85 but it dyno tested at 2.3
Put a pull start on a Black magic? All I can say is.. if you can get it to go through even one compression cycle with a pull start, I'll give you a $100 bucks!
ram
I know nothing about this engin though.
05-23-2003, 01:23 AM
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picco 26
pico 26 flys and very reliable starts cold on 2 pulls runs thru entire tank of fuel before stalls set mixture screws once and dont have to touch it again 160-$185
05-27-2003, 05:09 PM
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picco 26
Have seen a picco 26 on an savage. They are bad ***** engines. with stock gearing and the engine tuned at a dead stop punch it and it will flip completely over. Have friends with them on thier trks. They are very powerful motors.
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Originally posted by Justintoxicated
Wouldent a Dyno Give you Rear-Wheel Horsepower (or in savages case 4 wheel?) I know this comes up alot with dyno test. The HP the egin claims to have and the HP transfered to the wheels will always be different.
I know nothing about this engin though.
Wouldent a Dyno Give you Rear-Wheel Horsepower (or in savages case 4 wheel?) I know this comes up alot with dyno test. The HP the egin claims to have and the HP transfered to the wheels will always be different.
I know nothing about this engin though.
05-28-2003, 02:15 AM
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i dont mean to be rude but alot of you dont know what you are talking about. 600 is only the suggested retail price everybody jacks those up (do some research and you'll find they sell from 350-400). and yes you can get a pull start for this engine! i would not recomend this engine it is VERY TOUCHY and will take a very good tuner. and if you did get a pull start for it i would break it in then put it on. and the hp ratings are also raised up they are always less than they say. and the MARENELLLO? thats an ON-ROAD engine! it would have horrible torque.
if you want all the best all around performance go with a pull start converted rb concepts WS7. NOT the c5 it is touchy and a guzzler.
but the HYPER 8 PORT will perform very well! great power,easy tune.
bubbafien
if you want all the best all around performance go with a pull start converted rb concepts WS7. NOT the c5 it is touchy and a guzzler.
but the HYPER 8 PORT will perform very well! great power,easy tune.
bubbafien
05-28-2003, 06:41 AM
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..hopefully if its expensive like this its gonna last till my daughter goes to college but if after 5 gallons i am lookin for another one cuz its dead already..then its not worth it i would just be happy with maybe the 26engine
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As I am not in the market for a $600 engine,
I did not do a search for prices! Your right about those RB's they seem to be the hottest thing to drop in a Maxx or any other truck! I would love to have one but, I am too cheap!LOL
Originally posted by bubbafien
i dont mean to be rude but alot of you dont know what you are talking about. 600 is only the suggested retail price everybody jacks those up (do some research and you'll find they sell from 350-400). and yes you can get a pull start for this engine! i would not recomend this engine it is VERY TOUCHY and will take a very good tuner. and if you did get a pull start for it i would break it in then put it on. and the hp ratings are also raised up they are always less than they say. and the MARENELLLO? thats an ON-ROAD engine! it would have horrible torque.
if you want all the best all around performance go with a pull start converted rb concepts WS7. NOT the c5 it is touchy and a guzzler.
but the HYPER 8 PORT will perform very well! great power,easy tune.
bubbafien
i dont mean to be rude but alot of you dont know what you are talking about. 600 is only the suggested retail price everybody jacks those up (do some research and you'll find they sell from 350-400). and yes you can get a pull start for this engine! i would not recomend this engine it is VERY TOUCHY and will take a very good tuner. and if you did get a pull start for it i would break it in then put it on. and the hp ratings are also raised up they are always less than they say. and the MARENELLLO? thats an ON-ROAD engine! it would have horrible torque.
if you want all the best all around performance go with a pull start converted rb concepts WS7. NOT the c5 it is touchy and a guzzler.
but the HYPER 8 PORT will perform very well! great power,easy tune.
bubbafien