O.K. guy's, I've been out of the racing scene for about 14 years now, I still have my graphite rc10 buggy w/ stelth trans for a reference on how long ago!
Here's my question, I want to race again and I'm going st truck, which is a wiser choice, the RC10 GT or the Losi xxx-NT, the LHS employee has the xxx-NT and it rips, but I still have a soft spot for the AE stuff. What are the pro's and Con's of the two and if it were your cash, which would you get to win the trophy girl?

i heard the rc10gt is better then the xxx-nt

get a rc10gt kit, and put a good engine in it, then it should be great.[8D]

The RC10 GT seems to be the clear choice after skimming through the threads, upgrades are there and if it handles anything like the buggy I had, then I be happy with the machine. I guess I'm just judging the two baised on seeing the two running side by side, the xxx-NT was race ready and the gt was some kids beater. I should just find a gt and race that I'm assuming. Plus I don't want to be dumping anymore than $600 into it, I might get bored or change my mind after 1/2 season. That price seems low but I could care less for the first season, if I get hooked again I will spend more.

Another vote for the GT here.

I've raced all of the top three trucks and am currently running a MST-1

The GT is a great truck for someone just getting into the Game. It's cheap, easy to work on, durable, drives well and product and aftermarket support is second to none. Almost every hobby shop stocks AE stuff.

The XXX-NT handles better on the track than the GT, but is more prone to breakage, a little harder to service and aftermarket support is so so. Not all shops have Losi stuff.

The MST-1 is right there with the xxx-nt as far as handling, it's more durable on the track, but not very many shops stock parts for the Mugen line. You need to have your spares in the box when you go racing.

Any of these three trucks will get you a kiss from the Trophy Girl, that is if you can drive!!

Chose wisely grasshopper

hey scale, is the mst-1 any good for bashing? or does it suck?

I use mine only on the track, so I couldn't say if it's good or not
If you all you want to do is bash, anything is good

I decided to get bolth the gt and the xxx-nt, currently I bought the xxx-nt, upgrading the suspension arms, c/f towers, pivoit blocks, kevlar spur and titanium pins and turnbuckles. Any other suggestions on hop-ups, motor, pipe or simple tips? I hear the stock motor is pretty good out of the box, other than that I could care less about the side exhaust. I'm planning on keeping the stock motor in it for track set-up and beating it around. I read that ROAR allows turbo plugs now so the engine choices go up, but which one? I want good mid-range to top end power, high RPM is not a must, just more off the line punch with managable power curve. The RC10 GT has tons of options, almost endless, but the design is kind of robust, haven't checked out mugen yet.

rc10gt

even though you made your decision I would say go with the GT, I have one and love it. I dont know about the NT handling better, but I know that you can get a widening kit for the GT to make it more stable and handle better. With the right setup any truck in my opinion could win, it comes down to personal preference and the drivers ability.

Do any of you have aim or yahoo so i could talk to you.

Thanks

Jake

I think I have a yahoo account, let me check it out and post the address.

sweet..

I talked to the guy who I bought it from and it sounds like he did a few hop-ups so he could race but couldn't find anywhere to race it, so he put it away. I was told he put 1/4-1/3 gallon thru the motor and that's it. I plan on putting the native battery box on it along with the graphite center section, still I'm up in the air on the motor, Fantom, O.S.,picco,nova rossi, MT? which one???

I just made sure it was up and going, try to e-mail me so I can see if it does.
I don't think it matters if your on yahoo or msn, they will work together just fine.
Thanks Ray.

i dont have one but i hear very good things about the O.S. They are very reliable and durable. Very consistant as far as tuning goes..this is all what I have hear, Im gettin a O.S. CV-R for my GT

the three of you should be very happy together

I read alot of good things about fantoms and I've known O.S. for years, os is reliable but I really don't think they make a serious power house. Sure O.S. gives realistic power #'s but if they're anything like their airplane engines, I would shy away from getting one. They build them to be user friendly, which means you sacrifice power for ease of tuning. I'm looking for a good balance, too much is out of control half the time and not enough is last place in this sport.

PB,
I can't speak to the Fantoms quality, I see many of the kids on this board love it.
I ran a cvr in my GT for about 1.5 years racing maybe 2-4 times a month, The engine much like it's Airplane cousins, it is a quality product. They tune well and put out plenty of power to be competitive on a track. If you don't get them hot, they'll last a loooonnnggg time
I'm currently running a MT12 in mt mst1. For around $140, I think they are the best engine for the money. If you could fit that into your budget, you won't be sorry.

Something else to consider while setting up a ST for racing. You don't really need a "Crazy Fast" motor to do well on the track. I see many of the best guys at our track running just cheap OS CV .12s. They tell me that they like the less powerful engine because it easier to control the truck on the small track. If you put the most powerful engine and can't keep the wheels from spinning out, what's the point.

Secondly,
If you are new to nitro car engines, they take a little time to get used to tuning. I too came to nitro car racing with over 25 years of flying airplanes. I thought to myself. no biggie to tune a .12 engine. The little buggers just don't work the same without that prop. It took me a couple engines burning up and buying a temprature gun, before I got the experiance to be able to tune an engine well.

My point? you may want to invest in a entry leval engine to just get your feet wet, Like you said in the post above, you may get bored half way through the season. A cheap $80 os cv .12 might be the right thing for you just to get started.

good luck

Yeah, I've had nitro cars before, HPI super nitro, Duracrap st, Kyosho assault(that really dates me!). Like I said in the last post, Too much power and your out of control half the time, Not enough and your constantly in the back or last. I could come in 2-3 place in the modified class back in the days with my rc10 team but as soon as I went to a stock class, it got real tough, you had to drive absoloutly perfect to be a contender. I will stick with the truck/engine combo until I get really familiar with the truck and then I'll upgrade the engine and go to the next level. I have to get some stuff as back-up parts and try to make the truck more durable. The funny thing is everybody gives their opinion on which to buy, but when we buy these trucks we end up replacing almost all the parts to hop-ups or after market. I kind of thought about that when choosing a truck, I figured that it didn't matter which one I got, because I was going to be modifying it any way, I just picked the one that needed the least amount of hop-ups to be competitive, and to top it off, it came with a pretty good TX. I fly with JR and the price tag on their stuff is hefty, but you get what you pay for, the only other company I've had good luck with is Hitec, I mainly use hitec for parkflying stuff. I'm going down to talk to dave at the LHS, he's going to give me his set-up on his xxx-nt, and I have to get some trinity fuel, but I playing it cautious for now on the mod's, I first have to learn how to walk before I plan on running with the squids. The safe way of modifying the truck is waiting until something breaks, then upgrade the weak point. I have a few digital and super torque servos laying around so I'm all set in the steering department but I want to pick up some bearings for the bell cranks. I wish somone made a graphite or carbon fiber chassis for this thing, that would be sweet, I guess I could buy a 3 or 4 mm sheet and have my buddy CNC it out for me to the stock chassis demensions. I'll have to check to see if it's legal to race it with a one-off and not a production chassis, I didn't see any thing in the rules about custom chassis but I'll read in depth a little more. Got to go now, see you guy's later.

GT!