Jato: Piece of CRAP!
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Mann I thought the jato was gonna be a good truck but once I put my hands on and saw one run at my LHS I was severely disapointed. I had planned on getting one that day. The shocks are plastic, and everythng is cluttered. I gotta say that it doesn't look very good when it takes the hobby shop owner 10 minutes to get an almost brand new truck started. And then I saw the X-Cellerator for more than 100 dollars less and asked to see it run. It started right up, ran fast, and obviously had more power and speed than the jato. Needless to say, I went with the X-Cellerator. I didnt take the time to break in the stock engine and went ahead and threw my O.S. .18 CV-RX in and ran it up and down my street and was pleasantly surprised when I jumped it and ran it through grass and just beat the crap out of it and didnt break a single part.
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
Nothing new, just pointless opinion without fact. This forum is good for that.
Guess all of the hype, aftermarket companies, current owners and magazines have it all wrong, and you in all of your infinite wisdom have really figured the Jato out for what it is.
Here's something new for ya- FACTS!!!
RCCA, Nov 03 gunned the Xcellerator at 46MPH.
RCCA, Jun 05 gunned the Jato at 50.1MPH
Funny how an Xcellerator with a final drive ratio of 10.15:1 can go faster then a Jato with a two speed and final drive ratio of 8.75:1?
Especially when the 2.5R is reported to rev up to 50,000 RPM (traxxas site) and the XTM 18's max RPMs is 37,000 (xtm site)?
Just another reason why it's hard to post on this forum... If you are gonna say something sucks, why not back it up?
Guess all of the hype, aftermarket companies, current owners and magazines have it all wrong, and you in all of your infinite wisdom have really figured the Jato out for what it is.
Here's something new for ya- FACTS!!!
RCCA, Nov 03 gunned the Xcellerator at 46MPH.
RCCA, Jun 05 gunned the Jato at 50.1MPH
Funny how an Xcellerator with a final drive ratio of 10.15:1 can go faster then a Jato with a two speed and final drive ratio of 8.75:1?
Especially when the 2.5R is reported to rev up to 50,000 RPM (traxxas site) and the XTM 18's max RPMs is 37,000 (xtm site)?
Just another reason why it's hard to post on this forum... If you are gonna say something sucks, why not back it up?
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
ORIGINAL: Dale Gribble
Nothing new, just pointless opinion without fact. This forum is good for that.
Guess all of the hype, aftermarket companies, current owners and magazines have it all wrong, and you in all of your infinite wisdom have really figured the Jato out for what it is.
Here's something new for ya- FACTS!!!
RCCA, Nov 03 gunned the Xcellerator at 46MPH.
RCCA, Jun 05 gunned the Jato at 50.1MPH
Funny how an Xcellerator with a final drive ratio of 10.15:1 can go faster then a Jato with a two speed and final drive ratio of 8.75:1?
Especially when the 2.5R is reported to rev up to 50,000 RPM (traxxas site) and the XTM 18's max RPMs is 37,000 (xtm site)?
Just another reason why it's hard to post on this forum... If you are gonna say something sucks, why not back it up?
Nothing new, just pointless opinion without fact. This forum is good for that.
Guess all of the hype, aftermarket companies, current owners and magazines have it all wrong, and you in all of your infinite wisdom have really figured the Jato out for what it is.
Here's something new for ya- FACTS!!!
RCCA, Nov 03 gunned the Xcellerator at 46MPH.
RCCA, Jun 05 gunned the Jato at 50.1MPH
Funny how an Xcellerator with a final drive ratio of 10.15:1 can go faster then a Jato with a two speed and final drive ratio of 8.75:1?
Especially when the 2.5R is reported to rev up to 50,000 RPM (traxxas site) and the XTM 18's max RPMs is 37,000 (xtm site)?
Just another reason why it's hard to post on this forum... If you are gonna say something sucks, why not back it up?
He's stating his opinion... and the problem is...?
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Wait....so if I went up to my lhs tomorrow, which I am because I need new tires, they will take out a Jato if I ask? I mean drive around, btw. I'm just wondering...they have an opened gun metal Jato, I guess that's their display model.
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Yes I'm stating my opinion. My opinion is what counts when it comes to my wallet. I don't think I wanna pay $100+ more for a truck that is only 4mph faster. And I'm sorry but anyway you slice it, the TRX 2.5 is not as powerful as an O.S. .18 CV-RX. And it is not anywhere near being as powerful as the O.S. .18 TZ TX I'm putting in the X-C so why don't you get off my ass.
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
The guys at my LHS will take stuff out if
a) its a slow day, and
b) the parking lot is fairly empty
They take heli's out all the time tho and fly them around the store (Hobbytown USA)
a) its a slow day, and
b) the parking lot is fairly empty
They take heli's out all the time tho and fly them around the store (Hobbytown USA)
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Hmm... I gues I may ask to see it run then. I'm looking to get one in a couple months, heh, X-mas. I just want a good, fast reliable st like the N-Rustler.
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Mine is too, well I live by a Hobbytown USA, and a privately owned hobbyshop. I like the smaller one though, mainly because it's like 3 blocks away, and it has the same prices, and usually has everything in stock.
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
ORIGINAL: Dale Gribble
RCCA, Nov 03 gunned the Xcellerator at 46MPH.
RCCA, Jun 05 gunned the Jato at 50.1MPH
Funny how an Xcellerator with a final drive ratio of 10.15:1 can go faster then a Jato with a two speed and final drive ratio of 8.75:1?
Especially when the 2.5R is reported to rev up to 50,000 RPM (traxxas site) and the XTM 18's max RPMs is 37,000 (xtm site)?
RCCA, Nov 03 gunned the Xcellerator at 46MPH.
RCCA, Jun 05 gunned the Jato at 50.1MPH
Funny how an Xcellerator with a final drive ratio of 10.15:1 can go faster then a Jato with a two speed and final drive ratio of 8.75:1?
Especially when the 2.5R is reported to rev up to 50,000 RPM (traxxas site) and the XTM 18's max RPMs is 37,000 (xtm site)?
you can cite RCCA's numbers for top speed, but not their dyno numbers for the rev range?
would you like to know the big difference?
XTM claims realistic numbers for their engine. look at the RCCA dyno test of the 2.5 and you'll grab your testicles in pain.
*EDIT* typo
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
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Mann I thought the jato was gonna be a good truck but once I put my hands on and saw one run at my LHS I was severely disapointed. I had planned on getting one that day. The shocks are plastic, and everythng is cluttered. I gotta say that it doesn't look very good when it takes the hobby shop owner 10 minutes to get an almost brand new truck started. And then I saw the X-Cellerator for more than 100 dollars less and asked to see it run. It started right up, ran fast, and obviously had more power and speed than the jato. Needless to say, I went with the X-Cellerator. I didnt take the time to break in the stock engine and went ahead and threw my O.S. .18 CV-RX in and ran it up and down my street and was pleasantly surprised when I jumped it and ran it through grass and just beat the crap out of it and didnt break a single part.
Mann I thought the jato was gonna be a good truck but once I put my hands on and saw one run at my LHS I was severely disapointed. I had planned on getting one that day. The shocks are plastic, and everythng is cluttered. I gotta say that it doesn't look very good when it takes the hobby shop owner 10 minutes to get an almost brand new truck started. And then I saw the X-Cellerator for more than 100 dollars less and asked to see it run. It started right up, ran fast, and obviously had more power and speed than the jato. Needless to say, I went with the X-Cellerator. I didnt take the time to break in the stock engine and went ahead and threw my O.S. .18 CV-RX in and ran it up and down my street and was pleasantly surprised when I jumped it and ran it through grass and just beat the crap out of it and didnt break a single part.
I own both...XTM is crap and slow even with the O.S. .18 CV-RX which by the way took some heavy modifying to get into the XTM X-Cell...The Jato smears the xcell in longer runs...sure the xcell and duratrash are faster with os .18's on them but consider the Jato's a .15. But anyhow be please with your xtm cause I have yet to see a decent product made by xtm period. Also if it took your LHS 10 minutes to start a Jato that was brand new he's in the wrong business. Not to mention I don't know any LHS that prefers XTM's over Traxxas.
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
badz, i'll take any XTM over any comparable traxxas product.
considering my experiance with both their MT's, and yes, it DOES take 10 minutes to start a new TRX 2.5, because that stupid Quee-Z start doesn't have enough torque to pull the engine over and i've seen bad glowplugs outta the box.
AND half of them have crappy wiring inside the Quee-Z start box
considering my experiance with both their MT's, and yes, it DOES take 10 minutes to start a new TRX 2.5, because that stupid Quee-Z start doesn't have enough torque to pull the engine over and i've seen bad glowplugs outta the box.
AND half of them have crappy wiring inside the Quee-Z start box
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
Hmm thats funny. Im thru gallon 2 and Ive never had a problem starting my Jato with the ez-start and I just blew my first glow plug last week at the track as I was finishing off my 2nd gallon.
Maybe the engine wasnt fully broke in yet??
If the Jato is junk, my junk performs and runs better than any nitro Ive ever had.
I know its just your opinion, but your opinion SUCKS and thats just my opinion
Maybe the engine wasnt fully broke in yet??
If the Jato is junk, my junk performs and runs better than any nitro Ive ever had.
I know its just your opinion, but your opinion SUCKS and thats just my opinion
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
Traxxas has a comparison chart on their site, slamming the RC10 more than any other vehicle out there. But it is the most winning truck ever. I don't think there's a single RC with more tittles than the RC10. And how many tittles does Traxxas have in anything? OK. see my point? Though a magazine might choose something as a vehicle to get, you have to remember the same manufactures pay them big bucks for advertisement.
[link=http://racernine.com/movies/05-05-FirstNitroXCrace.mov]Try this video.[/link]
A stock X-cellerator.
[link=http://racernine.com/movies/05-05-FirstNitroXCrace.mov]Try this video.[/link]
A stock X-cellerator.
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1, 2, 3, 4 i declare this is starting to become a flame war
3, 4, 5, 6 that was quite funny Tricks
7, 8, 8, 10 hide your traxxas in the den
(im bored atm)
3, 4, 5, 6 that was quite funny Tricks
7, 8, 8, 10 hide your traxxas in the den
(im bored atm)
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RE: Jato: Piece of CRAP!
I don't want to get involved in this, but I want to back XTM up, as they are an EXCELLENT company and don't deserve to be trashed.
I bought an XTM .15 engine, and while it didn't put out the most power, it was my favorite engine I have ever owned, right up there with the O.S. .12 CV-X. Both were insanely reliable and lasted a looooooooong time. Everything from XTM I have ever bought or seen was of very high quality and was at a very reasonable price.
Also, I don't know if anyone has noticed, but Tower is starting to stock XTM products.
I should mention that is not a biased opinion of any stretch. I have been a big AE fan ever since I bought a FT T3, and I still am with my 18MT. I've gotten out of 1/10th scale completely at this point, ever since I drove an 18T a month or so ago, I could care less about anything not 1/18th scale...
I bought an XTM .15 engine, and while it didn't put out the most power, it was my favorite engine I have ever owned, right up there with the O.S. .12 CV-X. Both were insanely reliable and lasted a looooooooong time. Everything from XTM I have ever bought or seen was of very high quality and was at a very reasonable price.
Also, I don't know if anyone has noticed, but Tower is starting to stock XTM products.
I should mention that is not a biased opinion of any stretch. I have been a big AE fan ever since I bought a FT T3, and I still am with my 18MT. I've gotten out of 1/10th scale completely at this point, ever since I drove an 18T a month or so ago, I could care less about anything not 1/18th scale...
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ORIGINAL: everspeed
Traxxas has a comparison chart on their site, slamming the RC10 more than any other vehicle out there. But it is the most winning truck ever. I don't think there's a single RC with more tittles than the RC10. And how many tittles does Traxxas have in anything? OK. see my point?
Traxxas has a comparison chart on their site, slamming the RC10 more than any other vehicle out there. But it is the most winning truck ever. I don't think there's a single RC with more tittles than the RC10. And how many tittles does Traxxas have in anything? OK. see my point?
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badz, i'll take any XTM over any comparable traxxas product.
considering my experiance with both their MT's, and yes, it DOES take 10 minutes to start a new TRX 2.5, because that stupid Quee-Z start doesn't have enough torque to pull the engine over and i've seen bad glowplugs outta the box.
AND half of them have crappy wiring inside the Quee-Z start box
badz, i'll take any XTM over any comparable traxxas product.
considering my experiance with both their MT's, and yes, it DOES take 10 minutes to start a new TRX 2.5, because that stupid Quee-Z start doesn't have enough torque to pull the engine over and i've seen bad glowplugs outta the box.
AND half of them have crappy wiring inside the Quee-Z start box
If it takes you 10 minutes to start a Jato your retarded...`nuff said
XTM is Xtra Trashy Machines
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If it takes you 10 minutes to start a Jato your retarded...`nuff said
XTM is Xtra Trashy Machines
ORIGINAL: ThunderbirdJunkie
badz, i'll take any XTM over any comparable traxxas product.
considering my experiance with both their MT's, and yes, it DOES take 10 minutes to start a new TRX 2.5, because that stupid Quee-Z start doesn't have enough torque to pull the engine over and i've seen bad glowplugs outta the box.
AND half of them have crappy wiring inside the Quee-Z start box
badz, i'll take any XTM over any comparable traxxas product.
considering my experiance with both their MT's, and yes, it DOES take 10 minutes to start a new TRX 2.5, because that stupid Quee-Z start doesn't have enough torque to pull the engine over and i've seen bad glowplugs outta the box.
AND half of them have crappy wiring inside the Quee-Z start box
If it takes you 10 minutes to start a Jato your retarded...`nuff said
XTM is Xtra Trashy Machines
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man this is a stupid thread your tellin use the jato is a peice of crap cuz it has a hard time startin up for the first time. ok then w.e nice job do u have any hard FACTS like breakin parts o wait u dont even own one and your hating on it smart guy looks arnt everything it could be cluttered because its never break mabey
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ORIGINAL: everspeed
Traxxas has a comparison chart on their site, slamming the RC10 more than any other vehicle out there. But it is the most winning truck ever. I don't think there's a single RC with more tittles than the RC10. And how many tittles does Traxxas have in anything? OK. see my point? Though a magazine might choose something as a vehicle to get, you have to remember the same manufactures pay them big bucks for advertisement.
[link=http://racernine.com/movies/05-05-FirstNitroXCrace.mov]Try this video.[/link]
A stock X-cellerator.
Traxxas has a comparison chart on their site, slamming the RC10 more than any other vehicle out there. But it is the most winning truck ever. I don't think there's a single RC with more tittles than the RC10. And how many tittles does Traxxas have in anything? OK. see my point? Though a magazine might choose something as a vehicle to get, you have to remember the same manufactures pay them big bucks for advertisement.
[link=http://racernine.com/movies/05-05-FirstNitroXCrace.mov]Try this video.[/link]
A stock X-cellerator.
All trucks have thier goods and bads. To say something sucks that you dont own is a little stupid, to start a thread just to say something sucks that you dont own is just immature.
I really do hope you enjoy your new truck, if your ever in town bring it to the track. We can watch the Jato lap it.[X(] (Flame proof suit on)
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man this is a stupid thread your tellin use the jato is a peice of crap cuz it has a hard time startin up for the first time. ok then w.e nice job do u have any hard FACTS like breakin parts o wait u dont even own one and your hating on it smart guy looks arnt everything it could be cluttered because its never break mabey
man this is a stupid thread your tellin use the jato is a peice of crap cuz it has a hard time startin up for the first time. ok then w.e nice job do u have any hard FACTS like breakin parts o wait u dont even own one and your hating on it smart guy looks arnt everything it could be cluttered because its never break mabey
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"All trucks have thier goods and bads. To say something sucks that you dont own is a little stupid, to start a thread just to say something sucks that you dont own is just immature."
Thank you.
Ask anyone who *owns* a jato. It's a great truck, and is well worth the mula. If you don't like it then fine, go out and get an XTM.
Thank you.
Ask anyone who *owns* a jato. It's a great truck, and is well worth the mula. If you don't like it then fine, go out and get an XTM.
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I saw a Jato at my LHS today....doesn't look like junk to me. As a matter of fact it looked stronger than most of the trucks there, the thing looks beefy, and appears to be able to withstand quite a beating. ...lol, it also looked lke my next nitro r/c car.
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its just a get pissed off when pll say something like this they dont even own one but they dont like it........ lol but seriously when i get mad i say thingd befor i type them , so im talkin to my self but all ways trying to keep up with typing and it doesnt work lol.
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When I first saw the Jato I thought it was going to be some new big thing for stadium trucks but its kinda of takin a step back. the car isnt as great as everyone says it is. it is pretty unorganized and just slapped together. I truely think that Traxxas could have done better.