<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: #0000ff">Hi Guys

Am after some advice / tips if possible am fairly new to the RC hobby I do own an Ansmann Master Smacker Buggy (Electric) and love only had it about 2months and its really got me into RC cars. am looking to get my First nitro powered car and want either a buggy of a stadium truck i have been looking at the Thunder Tiger Tomahawk ST Stadium Truck and the Thunder Tigger EB4 - S3 Buggy i do prefer the truck but would like to know people opions. As a said am new to RC so any advice and or tips would be fantastic

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i would say either Traxxas Rustler 2.5 Or a Traxxas Revo 2.5 or 3.3

I don't know much about thunder tiger trucks but I have owned 2 engines by thunder tiger. Most people pass them off as a cheap/low end engine and they are but so far they have been the most resilient and reliable engines I have owned. I personally would go with a truck that you can find parts for locally and that normally means traxxis. Most hobby shops carry traxxas parts and some carry hpi.

i say get a jato on tower with 60 dollar off coupon. comes to almsot 300 bucks

Associated is owned by ACE/ThunderTiger RC ..... just like Team Losi is owned by Horizon hobby

My recommendation is goto the hobby shop closest to you, go on youtube and watch videos of most of the different trucks mentioned in this forum, read the different truck threads, and decide that way.

Personally I'm a little biased towards HPI and would recommend a MT2, others are biased towards Traxxas, Losi, etc...
Everyone will claim the brand they like is the best, the truck they own is the best, fastest, and most durable thing ever made.

One thing I will say is stay away from redcat nitro's they are low priced for a reason, they need alot of work out of the box to make them last over 3 months(was going to buy one till I read about them on the forums here) and there is low parts availability in case something breaks. So I would look at what the LHS near you stocks in parts, check ebay, and [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com]Tower Hobbies[/link] to price out how much replacements/hopups are and plan from there. This way you won't buy something based on someone elses opinion which you potentially might not like.



I will state the MT2's pros and cons though
Pros: Easy to work on, good parts availability, replacement parts are relatively low priced, Pretty good durability (I have not broken one MT2 part all summer)
Cons: Ball cup ends keep stripping off the turnbuckle (depends on what model), Limited aftermarket support (GPM only maker of aftermarket parts)


It also helps to know your pricerange

for durability i would say traxxas ... be sure to check for parts availability before buying anything. 99% of the idiots on youtube can't drive and are fairly dumb to the hobby. talk to your LHS and guys that are into the hobby that know what they are doing. the MT and MT2 are pure crap .. they are always in for repairs, but they make a crap load of money for us in parts though.

trust me for a starter nitro just STICK with traxxas.. Personally I don't care much about traxxas vehicles but I have owned a slayer and a revo... Great trucks, great after market support, great LHS support (parts), and really durable for a starter vehicle. Just do not skimp out and get a cheaper brand because it will piss you off. With nitro you will get dirty, have trouble tuning, and so on when you start off.

Are you sure the people bringing in the MT2 are don't belong grouped with that 99% of the idiots on youtube can't drive and are fairly dumb to the hobby? The things are easy as hell to fix so if they got to bring them to you for repair they really are not much into the hobby.

I always see you trash HPI MT1 & 2's on the forums, I own 5 HPI products, and out of my MT1 and 2 I've not had a single problem (beyond the tie rods stripping which I listed as a Con in my original post) that can be chalked up to product design failure or premature parts failure.

Only time I had issues was on my 1st MT1, alot of parts did fail due to them being brittle, seeing the truck was made around 1998 I didn't have high hopes for the stock parts, but they took a fair amount of abuse before they broke, my nephews Stampede is 4 years old and broke a arm hitting a little bump on the street for contrast. Once I upgraded them mostly to MT2 parts not a single piece has broke and I've landed the thing at Full Throttle after jumps, hit 3 inch cement step (that was burried in grass) at full speed, landed it on its bumper after a jump, on the hood, and did a fair amount of other bad landings when I was first learning how to jump it and nothing broke from that abuse.

In the MT2 forum people are slapping 1/8th scale big blocks on the MT and MT2s and parts are not breaking so in all truth it has to be the idiots that go to the hobby shop your at that are the issue. You never even state if you tried one, so please if your going to say if something is crap base it on your user experience not what you see coming in for repair in a shop. I honestly don't understand why any RC has to go into a shop for repair they are so simple to work on.

By the way posts like yours is also why I originally said "My recommendation is goto the hobby shop closest to you, go on youtube and watch videos of most of the different trucks mentioned in this forum, read the different truck threads, and decide that way." The reason I said go to youtube was to see how much abuse they take and still work, not to watch how crappy they are at driving.


Now if you want to trash the HPI brama 10b go right ahead that thing is a royal piece of crap. Its build quality is almost on par with Tyco. This is coming from a owner of one, and has driven it, not someone that has just seen it in a shop for repairs or read how bad it was. (well I did read how bad it was and thought the reviews were exaggerating it, they weren't)


Also if you want might want to accuse me of being a HPI lover my next truck is going to be a Slash 4X4. It just so happened that HPI had designs I liked (outside the Brama) and Traxxas's design of the slash 4X4 is one I like.

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I have been looking around for a little while about them and using youtube. I must admit ave got a 11 year old nephew and he car driv the elctric buggy (that ve only had a couple of months) I live in north east england and there arnt loads of shops that sell them theres is on in the local mall we have but its stupidly expensive the smaller one a short trip away mainly stocks the thunder tiger so for me the easyest parts to get a hold of are them. A had a wander there today and the guy that runs it said if a go back and see him tomorro he will give me a shot at the ones he has. but thats for the advice guys al give a shout at how i get on and what i go for

You can pick up a Factory team Rc10gt rtr for under $200 in good shape off ebay. The Rc10gt has been around since 1993 and there's a reason why The Thunder Tiger phoenix is a rebadged Rc10gt Heres the link http://www.thundertiger.com.tw/product/6720-F.html

Hi Guys

I finaly decied which car to go for and got the thunder tiger tomahawk st was only &pound;150 so with in my budget and didnt want to spend tomuch on my first car ave been running it a coupld of days now ave broken in the engine (with help from loads of vids on youtube and also from the instructions that came with the car) and it runs really well a would defonitly recomend it as a first nitro car like. a think ma next one will possibly be from traxxas or hpi or possibly even thunder tiger. but thanks guys for the help and advice.