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EdsWords 03-23-2005 11:01 PM

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I'm not going to get caught up in the whats better debate, because neither is really better. The question is whats better for you. For some guys its nitro, for others its electric.

You might want to consider trying an electric vehicle before you quit RC completely.

mittimj 03-23-2005 11:39 PM

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electric can get as expensive as nitro. but it is possible to put a cap on the spending budget. I got a electric rc and it was 100 then I got a 50$ motor and a 85$ charger and 50$ worth the batteries. and I was happy with its performance. ya the car was a pice of ***** stock. but it was a nice start to the hobby.


If I where you I would take your rustler and throw it in the closet. run electric for a while. once you get the hang of it dig out your nitro and see how you like that. Nitro seems to have more maitnance, but that is part of the fun. alltho electric can have maitnance issues to,,,with charging the cells correctly. Oh I could go on for ever on nitro vs electric but I like both. one just as much as the other.

Cummins 03-26-2005 06:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: nbcaznmaster

nitro is soo much more frustrating [:@][:@]!! dude, i had a mini-t and i would bash that thing like crazy!! but w/ nitor, im scared to death cuz if i crash it, that thing would cost me like 50 bux. not to mention the constant mantience. The nitro has batterie packs, have to tune, have to break in, have to make sure no loose screws, failsafe, spring (like failsafe), runafter, cleaning (takes me 15 minutes alone) and so on and so on. Maybe i should quite rc in general. [&o][&o]
Man, with your kinda attitude, maybe you should quit RC. Don't sell your truck though, cos in 5 months or so you'll be begging for it back...

Featherpluckin 03-26-2005 07:02 AM

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Wow talk about bad day. LOL. We have all had them though. Fogetting nitro is an awesoome idea though. Before you go electric though try looking into gas powered. There bigger there meaner they are alot less maintenance and while more expensive initially you are no longer paying stupid prices for nitro just regular pump gas and some oil mix and you are off and running. FG makes some good vehicles, but if you want to keep the price down go with the duratrax firehammer, comes with a 1 year warantry on the plastic parts and replacements for the mpost part can be got from your local hobby ashop or from places like tower hobbies, the engine has a 3 year warantee, when was the last time you had a nitro or electric powerplant with a warantee like that. XTM also makes a version of the firehammer comes without the radio and servos so its a bit cheaper but no one year warantee on the plastic stuff. You could also look at some of the older cars like a raco jackrabbit but parts are hard to come by or another good choice is the traxxas monster buggy which is a seriously fast car and great oval racer but not a great jumper. What ever you decide though try to have fun

Cummins 03-26-2005 09:24 AM

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Remember that this guy is 15, I think large scale is impossible for him financially.

rentacop 03-26-2005 09:48 AM

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You might want to keep your Nitro.....you will come back when you realize that electric really sucks. Your choice!!!

Cummins 03-26-2005 09:59 AM

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Yup.

Unbreakable207 03-26-2005 01:04 PM

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Nitro is not for beginners. Which is exactly what you sound like.

My friend bought a t-maxx just because he saw his friend with one. He crashed it during break-in causing $60 in damage...
Then when it was fixed he drove it like he stole it, WOT all the time, engine must of been 400 degrees, sucked at driving too.

Came to my house and drove it terribly, ended up breaking front skide plate, transmission, motor mount, tank, etc. Also his piston and sleeve is BLACK... He doesn't know *** he's doing. Also he had switched fuels which made it run just luvely. Now hes telling me hes going to sell it because its to much for him... ($ to repair) And btw hes 15.

jandb917 03-26-2005 01:22 PM

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i think they just need to learn some patients everyone can rember being that age and how they thought they knew everything...... ( i know i did) but if they were to slow down and think about whats they are doing and why these things are happing and ASK FOR HELP they might have an enjoyable time with nitro and learn something in the process that just my 2 cents though

XDD 03-26-2005 02:21 PM

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Yeah, I've been into both, and both are cool. Electric is more user friendly to start with, but now that I've had a lot of nitro experience, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm out running while my buds are charging batts.

jandb917,
I FULLY agree with your sig, lol. I'm a big DEI fan, and there's nothing like seeing rainbow colors all over the wall, lmao.:D

Goaferboy 03-27-2005 05:33 PM

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im new to nitro and the first 2 weeks of owning my thunder tiger dt10 i was ready to take it back and throw it at the guy that sold it to me. once i took it back and asked him to help me sort it it ran like a dream. im glad i didnt get rid of it. a good thing about electric though is that theyre not too noisy to run in housing areas when people dont want to hear a nitro car ragging around.

munkeybird 03-27-2005 09:26 PM

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Sorry to say but if your whinin' about 15 minutes of clean-up after a day of running you clearly don't have the patience for nitro right now.

doogie494 03-27-2005 09:44 PM

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I just bought a nitro car. ive never had anything better than the old nikko,s that you could get from the local department stores. Recently i was in an accident and by going stir crazy i bought my nevst. i could't get that damn thing to run for nothing. yes it frustrated the hell out of me. but it kept me busy with the reading and research i had to do to get it running. and by the great people that come to this forum it now runs like a rapped ape and i couldnt be happier. i feel that you have to be smarter than the car and be able to prove it. IT IS A TOY! dont ever forget that and youll be fine. forget it and it will drive you mad.

Goaferboy 03-28-2005 05:20 PM

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what you need is someone who knows a lot about nitro cars to set it up and fix things when they go wrong. once theyre running smoothly theres nothing quite like them. theyre loud, fast and go over pretty much anything. brilliant.

B4-jumper-X 03-30-2005 01:22 AM

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i have no idea how nitro works

THUNDER TIGER DUDE 04-11-2005 04:33 AM

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i go my nitro rc car cos my gran gave me £500 for no reason when i was 13 i bought a dt10 i kept on breaking things on itbut ive had it for two years and i still love it. the guy who is switching to elec DON'T because my freind got one so we thought we would race round a school play ground he was ok at drivin about 1 min after we started it stop the batts were dead and i was flying about in circles and he was really pissed. he tryed to stand on my car but he fell over so did i cos i was pissin ma self laugh. i just thought id tell you ELEC IS PISH MOE EXPENSIVE 5 MIN RUN TIME AT.5 MPH

NITRO KICK ASS

ronnie582 04-11-2005 01:29 PM

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NITRO....When its good its REAL GOOD and when its bad its REAL BAD......but still good !!

Kemo 04-11-2005 03:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: nbcaznmaster

well thats the thing, im not exactly rich, electric is cheaper, besides i saw some 3600mah (nimh) for 25 each. escs dotn burn up unless u put to many volts through it
Electric motors are to be rebuilt every 5-12 runs. Picking the right ESC is a pain in the rear, NOVAKs break almost the day after their warranty ends. Trinity motors just aren't reliable either. Good chargers aren't cheap, and if you plan to race, you'll need a nice DC charger. ESC $70 + Motor $45 + AC/DC charger $120 + DC Charger (made for track and hardcore racers) $100 = Thats a good $335 right there. Lets factor in 3 club level batteries at 30 bucks a pack, you want 3 lets say. That totals $90 so now we are up to $425. Ooops, we dont have a car on the list yet!!! Tack on another $230 for a good RTR racer. An average grand total is about $655. After about 10 runs, you'll need to rebuild that motor. Add 5 bucks for the cut and maybe $5 more for brushes.

Now if you only want to bash, the price will be drastically cheaper. But if you want to throw racing in there, $655 is a good estimate for a total.

XDD 04-11-2005 04:51 PM

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Yes, electric is very expensive. I'm a basher and found Kyosho's line of motors to be the most durable and torquey, and used Mtroniks waterproof ESC's with excellent luck. Also used a Duratrax ESC with excellent results as well.

Electric can be as expensive as you want to make it. I drove my E-Pede totally stock for 4 months. I bought the kit, bought a cheap charger off of e-bay and 3 1500's off of tower. I had about $145 invested in everything and drove it for 4 months like that. Then I bought an ESC, bearings, a faster motor, better charger to handle the better batteries, and it got expensive real quick. I love nitro overall.

There is times that I wish I had an electric rally car or something. Sometimes I like driving around in the house a little just putting around. Sometimes I just wanna flick a switch and drive with a still fast, quiet, non messy ride. If I sell my N-Pede I'll end up with a rally car shortly after. I've never owned anything four wheel drive and I love the realistic looks of them.

I still love nitro, though. I'm doing a complete rebuild on the N-Pede at the moment.:D

Goaferboy 04-11-2005 06:01 PM

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now when i had an electric (i was about 6 or 7, im 19 now you do hte maths) i never rebuilt the engine once. i never even took it apart. why do oyu need to take the engine apart now? how can things take such a bad step back. i admit my car wasnt top of the range but it was pretty good (i thought so at the time anyway)

EdsWords 04-11-2005 06:39 PM

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For racing, electric is cheaper, but for bashing I think nitro is less expensive. I used to be basher but now I'm mostly racing so running tank after tank after tank isn't terribly important to me.

You can buy 5-6 stock motors for what one single nitro engine costs. I have a 5 year old Cyclone ESC in my T4 right now and it still works great. The same cannot be said about nitro engines and their carbs.

One matched battery pack for the race $60 and one $40 pack for practie will last as long if not longer than 3 gallons of nitro (which is up to almost $30 a gallon now).

Nitro still has a a huge advantage in run time and I wil conceed that point. But, Roar has just legalized brushless motors for racing. It wont be long now before brushless motors and li-po batteries make 20 minute mains a possibility.

I prefer electric but I still like nitro. What I don't like is the " I hate all electric vehicles because they suck" mentality thats pouring out of this thread.

Come on nitro guys, batteries are more than just for servos and glo plugs and starter boxes! .

rcjunkie50 04-11-2005 07:41 PM

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Both types have their pro's and con's. I have a Corrally 12th scale electric and boy is it a blast to run on carpet. Battery and motor maintenance are not harder but just different. The support equipment can be costly to cycle the batteries and the motor rebuild requires a way to surface the com. Nitro on the other hand requires patience to learn tuning. Some of the advice earlier in this post is well stated. Learn slowly and give Nitro a chance. I happen to like both..

Tricksligger 04-11-2005 08:02 PM

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I raced electric about 10 years ago and loved it. I run nitro now and love it. I had some minor issues when learning nitros but I read alot before I even bought it and I read alot now to learn more. It does take patience to keep up with nitros. You have to want to learn and to work on the car. I tell my friends all the time that see my cars and they want to get one. You have to know how to work on them and want to work on them %70 of the time. When I tell them that they will run thier car only %30 of the time and the rest is wrenching, they say "screw that man". That when I tell them to go to walmart and buy a r/c car then.:D Cause I sure as hell dont want them bringing thier cars to me after they screw them all up. I dont think at 15 years old I would of had the patience it takes to keep these things running. Cause even electric cars were frustrating when I was 15.

My advice to the thread starter. Go with electric and when you get good at that, try nitro again.

hondapride59 04-12-2005 05:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tricksligger

Good leave nitro and go to: bad batterycells, burnt-up speed controllers, charge times, 50 bucks a battery pack dont forget to get 3 so you dont have to wait, and those only last so long before thier junk. Not to mention slower speeds, and much less cooler:D.

The grass isnt always greener on the other side. You can crash a elec. just as easy as a gas.

Good luck to ya though, but Id give nitro another shot. Ive had both and electric doesnt do it for me anymore. I guess I was around your age when I was running elec. Go for it man maybe you'll like it. I hope you know how to soilder!(spelling?)
umm...if doen right it wont be more exspensive then nitro, a battery pack will outlast a galon of nitro by a long time...so when he pays 50 bucks for a bat pack he is saving a ton of money on teh 20-30 dollar a gallon gas that is gone in a month or two wif u use ur truck

anyways what kinda truck u got...hwo much u selling it for?

Kemo 04-12-2005 07:39 PM

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either way, rc isnt going to be cheap right off the bat. Batteries will last about 1000 charges before they lose their life (if maintained well), so thats a big way they outlast nitro.


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