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Old 12-21-2011 | 11:45 AM
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I have a older Temptation plane and will be picking up a Temptation Kit to keep me busy over the winter. I hear the wings are sheeted and the fuse is glass. Would it be wise to glass the wings as well and then just paint it all? Or Ultrakote the wings etc then try to match the paint to the ultracote?

I love to paint, do they make paint to match Ultrakote? I hear there is someone that can match with dupont paints?


My plan is to just swap out all the Elec etc from the old temptation to the new one. The old one is getting beat up and its more trouble to fix everytime it breaks.

I have the OS 140 in it now, any recommendations on a newer motor?

Any tips on the build? The first one I got was already done


BTW, I would have a 160 DZ YS
Old 12-21-2011 | 12:26 PM
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Try Radio South for matching paint to monokote. http://www.radiosouthrc.com/
Old 12-21-2011 | 02:44 PM
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lablover, take a piece of each of the Ultrakote colors to your local PPG paint dealer and have them match them to the "Shopline" brand. I've used the Shopline brand by PPG for the last 3 years and could not be happier! Besides that, they will match and mix in as little as 1/2 pint quantities at an affordable price. Keep in mind, it it a 3-part paint (paint, hardner and reducer) so you have to be very careful and be sure to wear the proper mask/clothing while painting. Also, they will advise you on the best hardner and reducer to use based on the temperature when you spray. Hope this helps___Everette
Old 12-21-2011 | 03:27 PM
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lablover, let me add that prior to using the Shopline brand, I used the PPG Omni brand for many years and wondered why my planes would always come out "heavy". At the time, I was using a small "hobby" paint gun and just blindly followed the recommended paint/reducer ratios. WRONG! After realizing I had received bad information/guidance, I did a considerable amount of research related to paint spray guns and the technical information provided by the paint manufacturers and came up with my own system to consistently be able to paint all of my 2 m pattern planes
with from 2 1/2 to 3 ounces of paint total. It does not matter whether we are talking solid, colors, pearls or metallics, it's all based on the particular paint used, mixing ratios, type of spray gun you use and proper application. I've gone on record in another thread around here about how I feel about heavy planes. I may be "old school" but, I know what works for me____Everette
Old 12-21-2011 | 04:38 PM
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Hmm I take that you like heavy planes...I do as well

I hope this build don't take too long.
Old 12-22-2011 | 05:43 AM
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Would glassing the wings be a bad thing....too much weight?

I do like the idea of painting the wings the way I want to. Something not so boring as lines.
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ORIGINAL: lablover

Would glassing the wings be a bad thing....too much weight?

I do like the idea of painting the wings the way I want to. Something not so boring as lines.
Done correctly you can do this for virtually identical weights to Monokote if you are VERY careful.

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My profession is painting and restoring classic cars. I have found that all base coats are not the same. I am not a big fan of PPG. I like to use RM (Diamont BASF) or Spies Hector products. They cover very well with minimal added weight. PPG will be a lot heavier. I also like to weigh up the primer and all paint products before I apply them to the aircraft. This will help keep you from going overboard when using clearcoats and primers. Another tip is to thin the clear 15% - 20% and this will help spray with minimal orange peal and at the sime time save some weight. Clear coats today are formulated to spray "heavy" to keep them from running when thick coats are applied in the automotive industry. Be careful and do real light coats because it will like to run! Single stage is OK but not real forgiving and in the end you will feel the "paint lines" between the colors and will be heavier when complete. Arch is right if you are mythotical in your application of glass, epoxy, primer and paint it should be about the same as monokote.
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louie525, I don't believe that you and lablover are on the same page with me. You may well be a paint professional in painting and restoring classic cars,etc. but what I am talking about and have developed over the last 24 years is related to pattern planes only. To start with I only use primer on the seams (and sand off most of that) and NEVER use clearcoat. The key to a light wing starts with contest grade balsa (preferably 4 lb wood) and using the least amont (measured) of laminating epoxy or polyurethane glue you can get away with. There may be some builders that can control the weight of a painted wing but in recent years I've had better results with Monokote. To give you an example, I just completed a Mystic plane with an all up weight (minus batteries) of 7 lbs 7ounces. Each Monokoted wing with servo and linkage weighs in at 12.3 ounces. Like I said before, if it has an all up weight of more than 10lbs 4 ounces, I can't use it! It might be to your advantage to check with some of the pattern plane builders in your area. Regards, Everette
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Old 12-22-2011 | 09:38 AM
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I used Spice Hecker paint and i love this product I can paint a 2M plane in one day the paint dry fast and covers realy good then I apply clear coat then wet sanded with 2000 and an the 3m 3000 foam disc and then buff the plane Nice...
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I am just finishing a Temptation build. Sheeted the wings with the help of a great guy Todd Blose. Then coated with 'the West System.A great surface to paint on and easy to sand.Ultra Coated the bottom side of the wings. Used Shopline paints reducer and Clear coats.Easy to work with.
Preliminary weight of plane 10lb 7 oz

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