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Old 08-21-2002 | 09:35 PM
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Came across this when looking for other pictures. Can you name the 3 planes. I know the identity of the pilot in the red shirt. Others unknown.Name the pilot. Date on the photo is Nov '69 and was taken in Birmingham, Alabama.

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Old 08-21-2002 | 10:55 PM
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Default Pattern > the early days

Looks as if the red white and blue plane is a Daddy Rabbit. designed by Jim Whitley.

Who is in the red shirt?
That will probably help identify the others.
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Daddy Rabbit is correct. Jim is in the red shirt. What radio company was he associated with? If someone has a copy of the plans for this plane I would sure like to get a copy. I am aware of a built up from Zimpro. Would prefer to build from plans.
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Old 08-22-2002 | 12:26 AM
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guessing here , but , Kraft?

Get with Ed Hartley ,SPA webpage, for plans set.
PAC for wing cores.
Old 08-22-2002 | 12:32 AM
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you might find the BAR Rabbit on my webpage of interest. check it out, we built a scaled up version of the DR for AMA pattern. Turned out very nice flying craft.
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Default Pattern > the early days

How long has pattern flying been around?
Old 08-22-2002 | 01:10 AM
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since reed radios, long time.

Novice A, Novice B, Novice C was the class stucture.
Old 08-22-2002 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by GW3D
guessing here , but , Kraft?

Get with Ed Hartley ,SPA webpage, for plans set.
PAC for wing cores.
Jim was not with Kraft. Phil Kraft was an innovator and did design one of the other planes in the photo which is the aluminum one.

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Old 08-22-2002 | 08:04 AM
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Default Daddy Rabbits

I swear... if you come to our field on any given flying day, you'd think that
the Daddy Rabbits are doing the rabbit thing, and multiplying!
I don't think I've ever been out there, without seeing at least one
(Including a smaller, .40-sized version that one member offers as an ARC, I believe.)

Of course,we have lots of SPA members out at Paulding County...
including the founder. (who is also a recent inductee to the AMA Hall of Fame)

DR's are pretty popular planes for Senior Pattern, at least among our guys, apparently.



Shortman... go here: http://www.rcpattern.net/spa/

Mickey Walker talks about how/why he started the SPA, in 1991...
he mentions his first pattern contest, in 1953! (With a homemade radio, no less)

I had no idea it had been around that long, myself.
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Default Pattern > the early days

I believe Jim Whitley flew Pro-Line, not Kraft.
I have ( & anyone can get) Daddy Rabbit plans from John Ponds plan service, but these are the '66 Nats winner plans which I believe is the first of the DR's. Not as sleek as the model shown in the photo... would like plans for some of the later versions.

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Old 08-22-2002 | 12:33 PM
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Default Name the Plane

I'll take a guess that the plane in the front is a Royal Aquarius.

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Old 08-22-2002 | 12:57 PM
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Default Pattern > the early days

Hmmm, I was going to guess that the Rabbit was a Taurus. Guess not.

Could the one in the foreground be a Qwik-Fly?
Old 08-22-2002 | 03:22 PM
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Default Pattern > the early days

Ok, I got all you guys in one spot Can someone tell me about the Kaos, XLT, Sun Fli series, Great Escape!!! I really want to purchase one of these before my opportunity is gone. I am having a hard time deciding on which one would be best for me. I have a .40 sized pattern now, and want to move up to a 60/90 size. If you owned one of these planes, can you describe them to me?
Old 08-22-2002 | 04:17 PM
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Default Pattern > the early days

That is one cool photo. I was born in '69. I love those station wagons too. You can almost taste the castor oil when looking at old photos like that.

Thanks for the post.
Old 08-22-2002 | 05:17 PM
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Default Pattern > the early days

My opinion XLT or Kaos

Sunfli has to slim a tail area on the bottom of the fuse at the stab.. Bad for Knife edge. Been there done that.
Never had an escape.

Why not an King Altair?
Check my webpage below to see one.
Great plane.
I am working with the original designer of the King Altair on a plans set of the smaller Altair that was the predecessor to the King A. We flew it yesterday. Nice.
The King A is one graceful plane for a 91 OS FS. Mine was 7.5 lbs
800" wing, 73" long 78" span and would be great for up to advanced class AMA and perfect for SPA. It was recently sold to a fellow competitor in the SPA.

The smaller Altair seems to be just as nice, just not as slow as the King. Its in at 6.5 lbs 62 1/2" long 67" span. OS 91 FS as well
Unlimited Vertical, at least I could no longer tell which way it was oriented.
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Default Pattern > the early days

I have found that The other individuals are Joe Ed Jones seated beside whitley and Jim Ray squatting to the left ,if you are interested .
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Default Pattern > the early days

Ok
Got in touch with my flying bud, and here is his responce:

GW
the tan & Brown one is the Kwik-Fli 3 a Phil Kraft design ...the white
one with just a little showing looks like an EPITOME.
Constant chord wind with no taper.

There used to be a club on the East side of
B'ham that held an annual contest....can't remember
the club name.....but there was a concrete slab like
I think we see in the photo...was the pit area.

EXCAP232 I hope this helps you out in what you were looking for.
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I put this up to see what kind of response it would get. It got more than I expected. I knew the answers with the exception of the 2 additional pilots

The plane that looks like tan and brown is actually white and gold and an early Kaos. Jim Whitley was associated with Pro-Line radios. The red white and blue plane is as earlier identified as the "Daddy Rabbit". The Birmingham RC Club field is the location. It was on a washer rejects dump which was really bad on engines.

The silver plane is a Quick Fli III that belonged to Bud Caddell. Bud was sponsored by Orbit radios and I saw his name in the magazines until recently. He produced some plans of giant scale planes.

There is not any Monokote in the photo at the contest

I have attached a photo of my Quick Fli III from a Top Flight kit. It was painted fuse and Monokote wing.

I find it interesting that all 3 planes have been time teated and still available in one form or another. The Quick Fli III is available in ARF form from Global and the plans from Model Airplane News.

Don't recognize the names or the other individuals in the photo. Hope everyone enjoyed this trip.

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Old 08-22-2002 | 10:05 PM
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I guess you know your pix EXCAP232 but that Daddy Rabbit sho' does look more like a Taurus than a Daddy Rabbit! Guess it's the paint job. It don't look much like my old Daddy Rabbit either! :-)
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If anybody's interested here's a pic of the .40-size Daddy Rabbit, called a "Brer Rabbit". The one pictured has a TT.54 4-stroke and is a real blast to fly.
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Old 08-22-2002 | 10:20 PM
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CurtD,
I have a picture of my Taurus which was taken at the same field. When I locate them will post both the one on the starting pad and the one just after it hit my brother in law's company car door. I still have the kit plans to the Taurus. The Daddy Rabbit was a much sleeker plane.
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