Hi, is the Kyosho Oxalys forgiving/easy enough to be a good second plane? i can throw in Expo for the control surfaces as well. If it is forgiving and easy enough i figure this could be my second and third model in one. i am interested in Pattern Flying.

What bad habits does it have?

aaa... so i guess the answer is "no" ? [&o]

In my opinion this plane is about as good as a 50 size pattern plane can get. No bad habits to speak of. Just remember that the pattern designs are aiming at being completely neutral, that is, you will not get any of the "self righting mechanisms" built into a typical trainer. Compared to the Zen 50, Venus, hydeaway 50, the Kyosho Oxalys is much better and easier to fly. The one I flew had an OS .50, it was ok for normal sport flying but underpowered for pattern.
If you are interested in pattern, I say go for it !
Good luck.

so I guess I was a totall smock that bought the zen50 (right before it went out of producion)and not the oxalys then?
well..
just like me.

Thanks for the reply Jon V, my current trainer hardly has any self-righting capability. if it does it certainly hasnt shown it . its a Kyosho Calmato trainer. I'll get the Oxalys and hold on to it but i think its too pretty to "see if i can fly it". I'm getting a Hangar 9 Pulse XT 40 and from that i'll go to the Oxalys [8D]

Sham

I have made the transition from a Calmato to a pattern flying plane as well, in this case the Protech Tojeiro, which is somewhat like the Oxalys, though i guess the latter is even better.

It sure is a do-able transition, though you MUST really be able with your Calmato, which does have self-righting capacities.. the fact that you haven't noticed the latter, might be an indication that it's too soon.

However, the Oxalys is a F3A airplane and as far as I understand those aren't that evil.

Are you flying your calmato with maximum control throws? It should do a full roll in about 2 seconds then. Can you fly it inverted? Knife-Edge? Slow rolls?

If you're confident and you do master the calmato, i would say go for it. It's a whole new world with these airplanes, especially when it comes to things like knife edge. Take it easy on the control throws in the beginning (set them to the recommended or even less) and set some expo on all channels. Then you should be ok.

All in all.. though an F3A plane wasn't exactly my 2nd airplane, it was my 2nd 'serious' glow-powered airplane, and i've had no problemsn, other than the Tojeiro coming apart during flight, which is not a pilot error (didn't happen because of crazy flying, was doing an immelman at the time and the wing-bolt-mounting plate just broke free).

I'd say yes if you've mastered the trainer. I flew a GP venus 40 as my second plane and found it very easy to adjust too and lots of fun. The Oxalys is a real nice plane by all accounts.