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Old 10-02-2006 | 10:30 PM
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Hey guys wanted to let you all know Oxai USA just got another shipment of models. You can get these through Central Hobbies in the next few days they will be availlable.

They have in stock now to my knowledge and in the color schemes below.

Pinnacle Glow models plug in wings
Beryll electric, painted plug in wings
Beryll electric, in Primer
Impression one piece wing
And Possibly Astral XX models one piece wing

They are taking orders for the Zeque (one piece wing) as it will be here yet this fall.

I'm not 100% positive on what models are spoken for as of yet but some were on Back Order. It is my understanding that these models are now in stock

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Old 10-02-2006 | 10:40 PM
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Troy,

Who designed the Impression? Or who is flying it in competition?

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Old 10-02-2006 | 11:11 PM
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The Impression is an Oxai original design like the Pinnacle and is currently being flown by the top pilot from China. He placed 6th at the latest CAOCC. My understanding is the model flies really well. Its big and I mean really big. In fact the one they have in stock is a retract version. But its a beautiful model. I have looked it over and its very nice.

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I recomment Astral XX.Once you fly Astral XX you will feel that is the best plane on the world
Old 10-03-2006 | 06:37 PM
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Is the Zeque offered in a 2 piece wing ?
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Besides whether the Zeque comes with a 2 piece wing, how does it fly compared to the Astral XX ??
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Nope Zeque and Astral XX both are one piece wings.
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Darn 1 piece wing? Looks like somebody may have to get a bigger vehicle.
You know a 1 piece wing is probably easier to deal with on an Electric setup. No pipes to fumble around with. Unless of course you used the new style Hatori short pipes.
They are still beautiful planes. I only wish I could afford to own one someday. Mike
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Darn 1 piece wing? Looks like somebody may have to get a bigger vehicle.
You know a 1 piece wing is probably easier to deal with on an Electric setup. No pipes to fumble around with. Unless of course you used the new style Hatori short pipes.
They are still beautiful planes. I only wish I could afford to own one someday. Mike
1 pc. easier on electric? No way, loading packs through the canopy is much nicer. 1 pc. are lighter and easier to make a nice rigid fuselage with though. The trick to transporting is to use a normal tube like a 2 pc. wing. Put the wing together and then bolt on to the fuse. No glass on the center section as the tube takes the load, and it ends up being about the same as a solid center section glasses single peice wing.
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Yeah, that one piece wing is going to be a pain. But how does the Zeque fly compared to the Astral ?
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That would be an interesting question since Oxai has just produced prototypes based on the model that Suzuki builds. I would also venture a guess that not too many people besides Suzuki have even flown the original or the Oxai version model. I would say its way to early to compare. I know Suzuki was happy with the Oxai version and it has gone "into" production and there are many on order already here in the USA.

I think the model will fly well after all it got 2nd place at CAOCC just about a month ago. And it placed in the top 10 at the worlds last summer. SO its obviously a good model.

The one peice wing vs plug is a funny thing. I thinka one peice wing model is stiffer and stronger. I also know from doing the weights on the Pinnacles, Berylls, and Astral XX that the Astral models are about 3-4oz lighter than the plug in wing models. The new Hatori pipes even the long version like the 699 and the 821 are easy to manage with the one piece wing. Its not really and issue I don't think. The Oxai belly pans are a one touch release system they don't rattle in fact I don't think they can rattle the entire belly pan is notched intoa groove and there are just 2 screws to remove the wing. Yes a longer wing means a different transpot but you already are hauling a 2M fuse and the wings are shorter than that. As for shipping the Oxai planes in the US come in plywood crate. I have used these to ship my Pinnacles across the country and work well via air cargo. Shipping is under $100 depending on where you are going but it works well. The box accomodates the entire model and is the same size for Pinnacle or Astral.


On the plug in wing side its nice to not have any stands or craddles needed just set the model on its gear, pull the canopy off and attach the wings. Then bolt the canopy back on go fly it. With the one touch belly pan latches the one piece wing will be easy to manage also just requires you have a craddle to invert the model. I personally don't feel the Astral or a Zeque will work well for Electric. If you want E Powered get the Beryll its perfect for the electric setup. No chin cowl. The top of the canopy comes off and gives 100% access up front the plane is built and designed around electric. My opinion is its probably the best electric out there right now. Its light and strong, and flies well.

Back to the Zeque I think its a beautiful model and I like the looks of it.

If i find out something how it flies I will let you know.

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Thanks for the info Troy.
Keep us posted on what you find out about the Zeque.
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The Zeque does indeed fly as good as it looks. I saw it first hand at the CAOCC along with the Astral as well as other beautiful models. Which flies better I think is a matter of opinion. More than the design, I think it is the flier. Both planes flew great as they were both flown by great pilots. We have one of each ordered and shoulkd ship from Oxai on Oct. 15. I will post flight test impressions when we get them in the air.


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The Zeque does indeed fly as good as it looks. I saw it first hand at the CAOCC along with the Astral as well as other beautiful models. Which flies better I think is a matter of opinion. More than the design, I think it is the flier. Both planes flew great as they were both flown by great pilots. We have one of each ordered and shoulkd ship from Oxai on Oct. 15. I will post flight test impressions when we get them in the air.


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Jayjay,

Are you giving up on your XX?

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Old 10-05-2006 | 10:59 PM
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Hi Adrian,

Not at all. On the contrary, the Astral XX I took to the CAOCC was bought by Ross Brown of New Zealand after the competition. I have another new in box Extreme Composite Astral XX which I will built and fly for next year. Right now is typhoon season here in the Philippines so it is not a good time to fly a 2 meter competition plane. I am currently flying my Hirobo Astral X 110. While it is not as good as the 2 meter XX, it is one of the best 110 size plane I have flown. In fact, I managed to win our last contest of the year last week against a Brio and Genesis, among others. The Oxai Astral XX and Zegue we ordered are for a couple of buddies. However, I will be setting them up and test flying it so I will be able to give feedback.

I saw Akiba's Proline in the CAOCC. In fact, there were two of them flying. The other one belonged to Alex Lau's teamate from Hong Kong. They looked great (a lot better than the Super Shot) and flew well. However, they both flew with T-cannilizers which I dont like the looks of. I also heard from more than one Japanese top flyer that the Proline is a very similar design to the Oxalys of CPLR and that is the reason that Akiba also uses a T-cannilizer. While I have decided to stick with the Astral XX, I think the Zeque is the sexiest looking plane of the lot.


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Old 10-06-2006 | 05:32 AM
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Hey Jayjay,

Glad to know you still like the XX, mine is flying better than ever. I have just switch it back to the flat stab, I think its better for the P sequence, whilst the -5 is more suitable for the F sequence with more rolling maneuvers.

That other Proline belongs to my good friend Hung Kay Li - Alex's team mate. I have been corresponding with Akiba and am seriously thinking of ordering a Proline, will decide within the next week or two.

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Hi Adrian,

I have decided to stick to the Astral family for the next couple of years so as to really get used to the plane. I may decide to get an Oxai Astral or a Naruke hobby XX plus in the near future but I am sticking with the Astral. Good luck on your Proline if you decide to get one.

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hey,
has any one flown a beryll yet,would be nice to know how they fly???

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Steve,

Best person to talk to would be Noel Barett.

Noel is the Irish importer for Oxai models and flew a Beryll at the Triple Crown in Stranraer earlier this year. Model was equipped with a Hacker set up and flew impressively.

If you can put up with the name (and the price), I don't think you'll be disappointed in the model!

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Hi
I´m just in the phase of deciding my next plane. Oxalys is high up on the list, and I have seen several been flown, but I´m also curios about the Astral XX. But what about the braking in the down line verticals with the XX. Is it as good as with the newer designs? (I will use an YS 160DZ). Most of the newer designs seems however to have the need of mixing in knifeedge, what about XX. I also understood that Extreme Composite is doing an Astral XX, I couldn`t find their homepage.
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Hi
I´m just in the phase of deciding my next plane. Oxalys is high up on the list, and I have seen several been flown, but I´m also curios about the Astral XX. But what about the braking in the down line verticals with the XX. Is it as good as with the newer designs? (I will use an YS 160DZ). Most of the newer designs seems however to have the need of mixing in knifeedge, what about XX. I also understood that Extreme Composite is doing an Astral XX, I couldn`t find their homepage.
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http://www.xtremecomposite.com

I'm currently flying an X-Treme composites Astral XX, great airplane. Just do a search on RCU, huge discussion. If you have any question, you can e-mail me off the list:- [email protected]

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Thank you Adrian, I found the discussion. I come back to you if I still have questions.
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Hi Adrian

I`m new to RCU what a fantastic site for modellers to exchange details! I put a deposit down on a proLine today HWT are expecting them in 10 weeks ( Think I bought the last one )
I`m currently flying a modified Zen 120 ( Fixed U/C 140 RX ) and am ready to upgrade to a fullsize model hence the proline.
I am most interested in finding out all about the setup of the model, so if you can help or maybe even put me in touch with Akiba Sun I would most greatful. I also dont like the look of the T-canilizer unit and am hoping they dont install it on my model, do you know if they are an interchangable unit or not?

Happy up and down lines

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troy is oxai models going back to one piece wing and retracts ?? would not be a bad idea,you think,??
Old 08-10-2007 | 01:40 PM
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Oxai is not going back to one piece wings they have always been there and not really left. Many of the modelers around the world and primarily in Japan prefer the one piece wing models. There are many reasons. Without going into details as the masters and grand dragons of the pattern world will argue why it should be their way.....I'll leave it at this. I doubt I will be flying a plane with plug in wings for a very long time. I think the one piece wing has some very good advantages. The biggest issue is a belly pan attachment system. If you have a quick and secure belly pan attachment method the one piece wing is easier than the plug in wings. The one piece wing is way stronger and way easier to deal with in trimming and assembly.

I can put my Astral XXc together way faster than I could my Pinnacle. I can also stick my bipe together as fast as the Pinnacle. They are lighter, stiffer and easier to assemble. They also fly better. The one touch buttons that Oxai uses for the Belly pan is just a really cool feature than makes it effortless to remove. Since the pan mounts on a tongue and groove system it doesn't rattle, wear under vibration, or come loose. There are only the two one touch buttons and two pins at the rear. You don't have to worry about it fitting the wing shape or anything. The way the Japanese models are designed is really well thought out. I'm a really big fan of wood models now.

As for retracts...I know that Oxai produces the new Impression with retracts. This model is also sold in Japan as the Infinity. My friend Greg Frohriech has one of the prototype "impression/Infinty" models and it was built for retracts. The model is HUGE makes just about anything out there look tiny. I would say the fuse is largest volume I have ever seen on a pattern model. The shapes are unique and it looks really good. This plane was built with retracts and its a nice model. We have not flown it yet...but I expect nothing less than the typical Oxai flying quality in the air.

The photo below is of Mr. Roger Mao and Mr. Yang Yong the gentlemen behind the world class work at Oxai models.

Oxai actually has a Engineer on staff that works with the guys to design the models. He does both Aero things and also structural design. This makes the planes stronger and also makes sure they follow the rules to make it fly right. I have yet to fly an Oxai model that was a poor design and had bad habits. Other folks may disagree but most of the Oxai customers cringe at the price until they start trimming the model and flying it. Then they call and order another one.


Troy
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