Pattern/IMAC cross fliers
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Hey everyone. I am curious for those who fly both Pattern and IMAC, especially with a 40% plane, how long it takes to reaquaint yourself with the different plane when switching.
I flew the Prestige today for the first time since Nov, after flying my 41% WH Extra most of the time and oh my goodness. It seemed small, jicky, hard to see, etc etc etc. In 2001 when I flew 16 contests combined, it typically took me an entire week of flying everyday to get back in the swing with one or the other. I also use 2 seperate transmitters (possibly a mistake), a 10sx, and a 10x. The spring tension seems to be different, but my thinking was keep Pattern on one, and IMAC on the other.
Also am wondering if anyone has suggestions on drills to do to help acclimate to the different discipline. I do numerous snaps with the extra and numerous rolling maneuvers with the Prestige to help get reaquainted.
Don't be ashamed, I know there are pilots that fly both, they just may not tell everyone about it




Hope you see the humor.
Thanx
ed
I flew the Prestige today for the first time since Nov, after flying my 41% WH Extra most of the time and oh my goodness. It seemed small, jicky, hard to see, etc etc etc. In 2001 when I flew 16 contests combined, it typically took me an entire week of flying everyday to get back in the swing with one or the other. I also use 2 seperate transmitters (possibly a mistake), a 10sx, and a 10x. The spring tension seems to be different, but my thinking was keep Pattern on one, and IMAC on the other.
Also am wondering if anyone has suggestions on drills to do to help acclimate to the different discipline. I do numerous snaps with the extra and numerous rolling maneuvers with the Prestige to help get reaquainted.
Don't be ashamed, I know there are pilots that fly both, they just may not tell everyone about it





Hope you see the humor.Thanx
ed
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I fly both (Masters in pattern, Intermidiate IMAC). I can fly both back-to-back without problems. I wish that I could fly more. Usually I fly twice a week during the flying season. There are some differents in the rulebook but in general both are very close. Pattern 15 degree/point, IMAC 10 degree/point. Scale planes are better as they get bigger. That explains the tendency to use large planes in IMAC. The schedules are different but basically the concept is precision aerobatics. The limit in size for pattern is 2 meter and 11lbs.
There is an advantage in pattern. In pattern slow rolls are introcuced first before trying rolling circles. For unknown reasons, IMAC introduce rolling circles in Intermidiate but never have slow rolls in early classes. I believe that this causes the pile up we see in lower classes since the pilots never learn to do a true slow roll.
Regards,
Vicente Bortone
There is an advantage in pattern. In pattern slow rolls are introcuced first before trying rolling circles. For unknown reasons, IMAC introduce rolling circles in Intermidiate but never have slow rolls in early classes. I believe that this causes the pile up we see in lower classes since the pilots never learn to do a true slow roll.
Regards,
Vicente Bortone
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Ed, it appears that is you have time to think about how to transiton and then post the questions in regards to the ability to switch means that you should have driven your arse down here to temple and played with your jicky, small, Prestige plane along with extra weights to handle the wind...
So.. what the heck ED
Chuckles
So.. what the heck ED
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Your excuse caught me this time. WORK!!! Was missing you guys on Fri morning already. Did check the weather yesterday and saw the wind report.
Am waiting to hear results though.
And seems to me you will be in this same predicament sometime soon also. hahahahaha
ed
Am waiting to hear results though.
And seems to me you will be in this same predicament sometime soon also. hahahahaha
ed
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Just an update.
It has taken 2 weeks to get back to a pattern feel and flying smoothly with slow rolls on a wire, not over bumping down inverted and watching my entries and exits. I haven't flown everyday like I will in a couple weeks to get back to IMAC though. Still think it takes a solid week of practice.
For those wondering I fly Masters and Advanced in IMAC.
My overall concensus is stick time and fuel it what is needed to switch, and be at a high level of competitiveness.
Ed
It has taken 2 weeks to get back to a pattern feel and flying smoothly with slow rolls on a wire, not over bumping down inverted and watching my entries and exits. I haven't flown everyday like I will in a couple weeks to get back to IMAC though. Still think it takes a solid week of practice.
For those wondering I fly Masters and Advanced in IMAC.
My overall concensus is stick time and fuel it what is needed to switch, and be at a high level of competitiveness.
Ed
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Ed, i believe a lot of it is in your setup, if you can try and match the "feel" of the plane to respond similiar to each other then i think the transition would be less trouble.
I wil find out, going to try and switch back to the pattern plane this weekend and put a few flights on saturday if the weather is ok.
Chuckles Advanced ( Pattern), Sportsman (IMAC)
I wil find out, going to try and switch back to the pattern plane this weekend and put a few flights on saturday if the weather is ok.
Chuckles Advanced ( Pattern), Sportsman (IMAC)



