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Old 12-15-2009 | 10:33 AM
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Hey all,
How do you store your pattern plane? Vertically? Nose up or down? Horizontally? On its side? What is your solution and why?
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Old 12-15-2009 | 10:37 AM
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I hang them by the tail, with all that YS nose weight I have it only makes sense.....[8D]
Old 12-15-2009 | 10:42 AM
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How do you do that without ripping your stabs off?
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Old 12-15-2009 | 11:15 AM
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Rick,

I store mine veritcally with the tail down. I don't like storing them being held by the tail. I have some U shaped hangers that I got at Home depot that 2m pattern plane gear fit perfectly into. I'll try to remember to get some pics this evening.

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Old 12-15-2009 | 12:56 PM
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Rick,

I got some pieces of heavy duty shelf brackets from my dad, cleaned them up some, and painted them. I drilled a hole in the middle for a 1/4" lag screw that's 2" long, and screwed on an oak dowel that goes through the wing tube. On each end of the bracket, I drilled two holes, and used toggle bolts to attach them to a wall. I would have preferred them into a stud, but my house is so small, and the only wall I had available to do this didn't have studs where I needed them. The rear brackets didn't need to be as sturdy, so I attached them to the wall with "Zippits", and used a square dowel rather than a round one back there.

Rather than have one Partner sitting on the bed in the spare bedroom, one sitting on a 7' samsonite folding table I have, and my Excellence sitting wherever it wasn't in the way at that time, I decided to make something. I was racking my brain trying to think of what I should use, as I wanted the weight of the airplanes to be held where it was designed to. At first, I was going to try and fabricate something so that the airplanes would sit on their gear legs, however that was proving to be complicated as I wanted to ensure that the airplanes would not roll off of the platforms. Then the bright idea to put a dowel through the wing tube came about.

I think it's pretty nifty, simple, compact, and effective. It supports the weight of the airplanes just fine, and I've been using them for several months now with no issues. The only downside is making sure that the airplane goes on the dowel properly so it slides on easily, however that's not really a big issue.

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Old 12-15-2009 | 02:49 PM
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Rick,

I got some pieces of heavy duty shelf brackets from my dad, cleaned them up some, and painted them. I drilled a hole in the middle for a 1/4'' lag screw that's 2'' long, and screwed on an oak dowel that goes through the wing tube. On each end of the bracket, I drilled two holes, and used toggle bolts to attach them to a wall. I would have preferred them into a stud, but my house is so small, and the only wall I had available to do this didn't have studs where I needed them. The rear brackets didn't need to be as sturdy, so I attached them to the wall with ''Zippits'', and used a square dowel rather than a round one back there.

Rather than have one Partner sitting on the bed in the spare bedroom, one sitting on a 7' samsonite folding table I have, and my Excellence sitting wherever it wasn't in the way at that time, I decided to make something. I was racking my brain trying to think of what I should use, as I wanted the weight of the airplanes to be held where it was designed to. At first, I was going to try and fabricate something so that the airplanes would sit on their gear legs, however that was proving to be complicated as I wanted to ensure that the airplanes would not roll off of the platforms. Then the bright idea to put a dowel through the wing tube came about.

I think it's pretty nifty, simple, compact, and effective. It supports the weight of the airplanes just fine, and I've been using them for several months now with no issues. The only downside is making sure that the airplane goes on the dowel properly so it slides on easily, however that's not really a big issue.

My setup is similar, except I use adjustable shelving brackets with 16" shelf braces, wrapped in foam pipe insulation. Looks pretty much the same as above except the bottom of the fuse, near the gear, is resting on foam instead of the wing tube.
Old 12-15-2009 | 03:37 PM
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Some interesting ideas.... I never thought about the wing tube... It might be a good idea to keep the weight off the wheels.
Thanks Guys!
Anyone else?
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This is how I store mine
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Old 12-15-2009 | 05:03 PM
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I've heard nose down is bad for the bearings. Also, goop from the pipe drains back into the engine.
Is there any problem hanging it from the prop?
Old 12-15-2009 | 05:22 PM
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Scott,
I have been storing mine hanging from the prop now for years and think that is best.My only fear is that if there is a leak or some residual goop it could end up making a heavy mess in the tail of a beautiful airplane. I wanted to see how others are doing things before I spend some bucks. I am leaning toward purchasing some 36" birch doors and building some shelves and storeing things horizontally and using Ryans wingtube idea so as to keep the weight off the wheels and gear with a small stand -like PVC pipe thing.
I also want to put some doors on it as it will be in my shop and you know how dusty and dirty things can get.
RC
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Rick, I hang mine from the tail on 1/8 inch wider hook fastened into the wall. I simply slide the plane onto the hook through the round hole in the spring of the landing gear. As you know my airplanes are electric so they wait next to nothing and I think it's a grea way to store the plane.Jim
Old 12-15-2009 | 05:43 PM
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Yeah, Jim, but wait til all the electrons run down into the spinner.
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Strat-I bet if you tape a magnet to the tail with the north pole pointing south, the electrons will stay put. But I'm sure Jim knows this. He's probably already doing this. No fun when those electrons start moving around. Could throw off your CG if you're not careful.
Old 12-16-2009 | 07:42 AM
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Thanks for the ideas and laughs.... Any more ideas? In my ready area in the garage I keep my planes on their side. They don't stick out as far. I don't think this could create a problem, anyway I hope not.
Merry Christmas and a great New Year!
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Rick,

It wont create a problem for your wood planes, but it can create a problem for glass planes. If they sit in the same area too long they can develop long term dents and warping. Especially with how thin and light the new glass planes are.

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Hey all,
How do you store your pattern plane? Vertically? Nose up or down? Horizontally? On its side? What is your solution and why?
I store mine all over the place...
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I'm kidding of course... I'm in the process of building a new workshop...

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Old 12-16-2009 | 10:39 AM
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Derek,
That looks like a hobby shop in downtown Bagdad after the Gulf War! Actually I am in the process of doing the same thing. Arch,
Thanks for the heads up on the glass stuff. Trying to organize things so after the holidays the 2010 prep can begin!
RC
This thread is turning out to be a lot of fun!
Old 12-16-2009 | 01:16 PM
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Rick,

I'll take a couple of pictures of how I hang my stuff tonight. Works really well and takes up very little space.

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I'll post pictures of how I hang mine later tonight as well. I think I use the same L (or U) hangers from Home Depot that Arch is using... except I hang mine from the stabs. I haven't tried from the gear yet but I think I may do a couple like that to see how it works. I've only got one plane hung as of now and I'm working on the others so I'm open to experimentation.
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Derek,

That sounds exactly like what I am using. Works really well hanging from the gear. Takes the load off the stabs and everything else.

Arch
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More pics would be cool. I'm moving into a new place and would love to reduce the amount of space my planes take up.
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Steel wire, a dowel and bungee cord...
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Steel wire, a dowel and bungee cord...
WHERE'S THE PAINT?!?!
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Hey all,
How do you store your pattern plane? Vertically? Nose up or down? Horizontally? On its side? What is your solution and why?
I store mine all over the place...
Send that Staudacher my way, and that'll relieve some room!


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