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Supra skybolt
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Hello
Others pics shot in French Championship which takes place right now . CPLR did first flight P with the Supra Skybolt YS 200CDI https://www.facebook.com/698456625/v.../?id=698456625 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e02db57975.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...b5ed5ec049.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...1e968cac2a.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...a4d70e135c.jpg |
AWOSOME........
Got to love the power of that Four stroke ;) |
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Originally Posted by papaone
(Post 12457306)
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Hello
Supra Skybolt in french championship Claude https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...da600fa9c3.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...1f6a85c0fa.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...004a5c8abe.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...ab1defd818.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6b5c9094e6.jpg |
Originally Posted by papaone
(Post 12458021)
Hello
Supra Skybolt in french championship Claude https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...da600fa9c3.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...1f6a85c0fa.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...004a5c8abe.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...ab1defd818.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6b5c9094e6.jpg How does it fly? Looks good in the flying shots. |
Hello Scott
Christophe used Supra Skybolt on all aerobatic programs P, F and unknowns. Christophe is on facebook , best way is to ask him. https://www.facebook.com/christophe....7AfQ9Q3EkHZ7dw Claude |
Originally Posted by papaone
(Post 12458116)
Hello Scott
Christophe used Supra Skybolt on all aerobatic programs P, F and unknowns. Christophe is on facebook , best way is to ask him. https://www.facebook.com/christophe....7AfQ9Q3EkHZ7dw Claude Just after someone elses impresssion. |
Hello
Friends of mine who saw flights told me plane is awesome and flies very well. but CPLR told plane is not perfect , a little difficult on unknows. claude |
Originally Posted by papaone
(Post 12458292)
Hello
Friends of mine who saw flights told me plane is awesome and flies very well. but CPLR told plane is not perfect , a little difficult on unknows. claude I'll find out myself soon ;) |
Hello
CPLR won international FAI contest in Switzerland with Supra Skybolt Yamada 200 CDI So I think this plane is very acuracy ! Christophe wrote on his website "Alpine Cup 2018. That's it, it was my last inter contest of the season. Superb Swiss organization. It was an opportunity to test the Skybolt The competition was tough , in a very good atmosphere and on a magnificent course" claude https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...daf336fe15.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...a9d67c9b8b.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...a97919f386.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...4b7c14087e.jpg |
Originally Posted by papaone
(Post 12462294)
Hello
CPLR won international FAI contest in Switzerland with Supra Skybolt Yamada 200 CDI So I think this plane is very acuracy ! Christophe wrote on his website "Alpine Cup 2018. That's it, it was my last inter contest of the season. Superb Swiss organization. It was an opportunity to test the Skybolt The competition was tough , in a very good atmosphere and on a magnificent course" claude https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...daf336fe15.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...a9d67c9b8b.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...a97919f386.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...4b7c14087e.jpg |
Nice to see that Wolfgang Matt is still active and successful.
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Originally Posted by flywilly
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Nice to see that Wolfgang Matt is still active and successful.
"Old Guys Rule!" |
Good luck during the hurricane, Burtona! I lived in Wilmington from '89 to '93 and now own a beach house on Topsail Island (gulp :-0 ).
Where was Gernot Bruckmann? |
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Hi scott Good luck with the new plane, it looks amazing Kobi |
Originally Posted by kobi
(Post 12464965)
Hi scott Good luck with the new plane, it looks amazing Kobi |
Hey Scott,
Did you manage to fix the wobbly tailplane........my Galactic and Ascent are the same . I use thick CA to build the thickness up and it works Ok ps Cant wait to see the Skybolt in action regards Con |
Originally Posted by MAVROS
(Post 12465262)
Hey Scott,
Did you manage to fix the wobbly tailplane........my Galactic and Ascent are the same . I use thick CA to build the thickness up and it works Ok ps Cant wait to see the Skybolt in action regards Con Yep. I posted on Talking F3A FB what I did. Scott |
Oh no... a scale type fin and rudder... and a wing set further back resulting in a long unsightly nose!
Is the great migration towards the front is over? Is it a 180degree about turn and onwards South towards the tail? If this gets a hold... it'll be mid-mounted wings- 1985 Joker style- by Christmas! We must fight back... Or maybe that should be forward. It's all so ugly, I'm completely confused. D#mn the French. |
Originally Posted by David Bathe
(Post 12467271)
Oh no... a scale type fin and rudder... and a wing set further back resulting in a long unsightly nose!
Is the great migration towards the front is over? Is it a 180degree about turn and onwards South towards the tail? If this gets a hold... it'll be mid-mounted wings- 1985 Joker style- by Christmas! We must fight back... Or maybe that should be forward. It's all so ugly, I'm completely confused. D#mn the French. I hope the sweptback wings make a comeback just like the Blue Angel.....so Cooooool happy flying |
Get a grip man... the next thing, you'll be saying its cool to own and operate a YS... Luddite fashion.
Retro? Let's go forward instead. |
Originally Posted by David Bathe
(Post 12467540)
Get a grip man... the next thing, you'll be saying its cool to own and operate a YS... Luddite fashion.
Retro? Let's go forward instead. A good theory to practise is - If you haven't got anything constructive to say, maybe don't say anything. Just sayin'. |
Originally Posted by David Bathe
(Post 12467540)
Get a grip man... the next thing, you'll be saying its cool to own and operate a YS... Luddite fashion.
Retro? Let's go forward instead. Cant wait for the new to come out. Have you noticed that ELECTRIC guys always try to convince the IC guys to convert to battery but not the other way........Iam sure you can work it out. PS When CPLR and YS retire then and only then the Batteries may win a WC .....or perhaps Another YS will take over Happy flying |
Originally Posted by MAVROS
(Post 12467698)
I am going forward David......I have gone from the YS 160 to the YS 200CDI.
Cant wait for the new to come out. Have you noticed that ELECTRIC guys always try to convince the IC guys to convert to battery but not the other way........Iam sure you can work it out. PS When CPLR and YS retire then and only then the Batteries may win a WC .....or perhaps Another YS will take over Happy flying regards |
It's humor guys, a bit of YS leg pulling. don't take it so seriously.
We all love IC... Steam also has its followers. |
Don't pull too hard... I worry about the low demand for YS engines and the future of their production.
The USA is probably 95% e-power in pattern (maybe more) which is okay because I think that electrics have really helped keep pilots involved in pattern, certainly here. I know a lot of 'mature' pattern fliers who appreciate the relative ease of operation of the 'E' pattern ship. Me, I'm a diehard glow guy and have been since I cranked my first Cox .049 back in the mid '60s, but I do see the appeal of electric power and I will admit that I would probably encourage a pattern newcomer to go in that direction. I love CPLR's new Skybolt design, though I find all designs in the pattern world to be of interest; some are more appealing to me! I'm not so fond of the Trigantic, for example. I would love to get an all wood (probably have to be Japanese) kit of the Skybolt. Quite a departure from the 'Galactick' series that he has refined over the past several years. Cheers Mates! Pattern rules! -Will |
It is not about the powerplant but about the pilot. Just that the 2 best in the world use YS could be a coincidence but.......... I start using electric motor in 2015 and would not go back but love to hear the power from an YS engine that works ;) the best thing with this hobby is that you have options and could follow your personal preferences. If YS continue to make engines in the future I guess that we will have pilots from both worlds for many years ahead.
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Hey everyone!
The following is a quote from the electric pattern forum here on RCU. It is the last line which is notable, that the goal is to achieve the power and performance of the YS; still the standard of pattern performance. "The long awaited BJ Craft X-Drive contra unit is here!! I have been waiting for this unit to install in my Eternity. It arrived the other day and I am now back home and can post the first look. This is is a beautiful drive unit. The machining and workmanship is really outstanding. This is a twin belt drive, direct coupled contradrive unit with no clutch nor planetary gear system. Read that as low maintenance like the Adverrun. I think the Adverrun is the benchmark these days for power and simplicity. The X-Drive looks like it takes things a step further. It came with the custom BJ Force outrunner motor, beautiful pre-cut CF spinner, precise lightweight AL backplate and mounting system for the Eternity. I did a weight check and it looks to be about equivalent to the first gen Adverrun at 655g. However, this may be even more powerful than that beast. If so, I can’t wait to get it flying. B.J. said his goal was to match YS power and performance. Based on my Adverrun experience I think this is achievable." |
Originally Posted by drac1
(Post 12467614)
In case you haven't been paying attention, electric have not won a WC.
A good theory to practise is - If you haven't got anything constructive to say, maybe don't say anything. Just sayin'. For all of us who have not been paying attention ; Has a biplane won a WC ?? Brian |
Yes and it was powered by a YS 200 not Batteries........;)
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Qq !!
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2014 & 2016 EC's won by battery power.
Maybe in 1987/8/9 somebody said a fourstroke has not won a WC. He/she would have been correct but the past is not the same as the future. Time will tell. If the equipment ( whatever it may be) works it is or should be about pilot performance !! Brian |
The YS brand reputation is actually as strong if not stronger than the engines. Imagine if they'd been awake and seen the writing on the wall a 15 years ago... and teamed up with a world class motor producer. We'd all be singing the praises of the latest YSE.
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I wouldn't worry too much about the health of YS guys. YS is the preferred engine of warbird pylon racing. Those guys go through a lot of engines and keep the service center busy. It is not uncommon for the race guys to use 50% nitro either. Last warbird race here in Sacramento had 70 competitors including Tatsuo Yamada himself. The next one later this month is dubbed the Warbird Nationals is a 3 day event and is open to 100 entrants. YS is also a thriving choice for helicopters. IMO there are more YS engines in use today then when they were the preferred choice for pattern, just fewer of the large 4 strokes. IMO YS will always support F3A, that is where their roots are. |
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The Supra Skybolt has flown. The first flight went well. I copied the Xareltoo model settings and used that, which proved to be very close. 3, (fine), clicks of right aileron and some up elevator trim was all that was needed to get straight and level flight. 2 passes and I was feeling comfortable, so flew P19. It goes up straight, but was pulling to the canopy on the down line. A bit more elevator in the mix and all good there. I've adjusted the stab incidence now, which will eliminate the elevator trim. More rudder was needed for stall turns and a touch more elevator throw added as well. Rolls were too quick, so aileron travel reduced. Snaps are OK, so will see how it goes from here. For such a large plane, it uses less energy which is surprising. But in line with what Christophe Paysant-Le Roux says as well. 10 flights on it now and really looking forward to more flying and fine tuning the trimming. |
Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
(Post 12468898)
I wouldn't worry too much about the health of YS guys. YS is the preferred engine of warbird pylon racing. Those guys go through a lot of engines and keep the service center busy. It is not uncommon for the race guys to use 50% nitro either. Last warbird race here in Sacramento had 70 competitors including Tatsuo Yamada himself. The next one later this month is dubbed the Warbird Nationals is a 3 day event and is open to 100 entrants. YS is also a thriving choice for helicopters. IMO there are more YS engines in use today then when they were the preferred choice for pattern, just fewer of the large 4 strokes. IMO YS will always support F3A, that is where their roots are. Now where is that HYBRID design ? |
Nice.......
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