Temptation Kit
 

I have aquired a new temptation kit, basic, -- does anyone out there know the mods that is needed on this plane, if any. I have been told that some changes have been done to make it a better flying plane.

Plan on using a FZ140 YS,

jerrys

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Hi!
i also soon recived one set ..and would like to get those mods specs!
Rune

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I also have a kit and plan to get started on it soon. My understanding is that the some builders are making mods to the tail:

1) Cut off the counterbalance - the rudder is too effective for some pilot's taste
2) Decrease the rudder hinge line to 5 degrees - apparently eliminates a mix

I also spoke with one Temptation pilot who installed formers in the fuse at the wing tube to help stiffen the airframe. He said it made the plane snap better.

Also, some pilots are installing larger canopies and moving them forward. Apparently this improves the rolling maneuvers.

If you search this forum, you will find all these mods. Anyone know of others?

Lem

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I just received my Temptation kit and will be powering it with a OS140RX. I will try to post pictures as I start building it. This will be my first pattern plane build. Hope others will post building photos to help others also.

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Thanks for the info, will apply these to my temptation, if any more info comes please post it.

thanks,

Jerrys2

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Hi !
got my kit today!
looking good , fuse is ok lite 773gr with the cockpit frame and bellypan ,formers for undercarriage installed and one former behinde the wing also innstalled !
looks to me that the wings are wery thin , probably goes fast!?
wings stab and rudder nice cut foam .
only bad thing is a stripe in the fuse that probaly is some thing that has been in the mold under the prosess off making the fuse and a smal fracture in the front belly pan..but that is not a big problem despite off that the glassworks looks wery nice and the coat to!
Regards Rune

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The rudder can be a bit much. Cutting off the counterbalance section will make it easier to manage.

You can reduce the hinge line angle at the rudder to as little as 3 degrees without hurting anything. Don't go past there.

Assuming you build light you can cut 1 - 1 1/2 inch off each wing tip to enhance roll performance.

Don't worry about downlines. These planes generally have to be powered into the exit of 45 degree downlines or they get going too slow. Fact is, it's an overblown issue with most modern designs. The way to acheived relaxed downlines is with proper throttle management technique.

Modifications can improve or screw up a plane. Failure IS an option - I've seen it. A Temptation built to spec is a fantastic flying airplane and any mods are to enhance performance, not fix anything that's wrong. Because of its relative simplicity the Temptation is a great platform for experimentation, but know what you're doing and why you're doing it.

Lee Davis
[link=http://www.piedmontmodels.com]Piedmont Models[/link]

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Lee, Is it ever gonna be available again?

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Hi
but if i cut away the counter balance do i still have the same heigth on the fin and rudder ?
and would not this have some effect to roll tendency on the rudder?
Rune

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Just cap them off (add some wood and shape it). Plane flys better in crosswind without extra counter balance height. A previous post on the Temptation shows pictures of them without the counter balance. Do as Lee says and you will have a great flying plane. My two planes also use Focus canopies instead of the stock one. Brings canopy further forward and makes rolling the plane even easier than it already is. With Webra 160's/ES 160 pipe my two come in at a nice 10lb-1oz and 10lb-2oz, respectively. A tribute to Dave Guerins building consistency. All the little tweaks mentioned make a great flying plane even better. I believe I don't have the hinge angle tweak on mine. I just needed a little up elevator mixed in for knife edge flight. At the weights mentioned, I don't use much full throttle and consequently can go throught the Masters sequence twice with a little to spare with a 16 oz tank. Prop of choice APC 17X13 and Powermaster 15/16 for fuel.

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Thanks for answer so far ..
i probably start the work just over summervacation...now is just flying and relaxing...life can be hard !

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What we'll probably end up doing is coming out with a 2nd generation Temptation. We love the way the Temptation works, but there are some things we'd like to do that can't be incorporated into the existing airframe. That means re-design and re-manufacture from the ground up. We love making our lives complicated, and we're good at it!

Lee Davis
[link=http://www.piedmontmodels.com]Piedmont Models[/link]

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Is the Temptation kit still available or should I start on a new xmas list? ( it is never too early to start)

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I want to buy a Temptation kit but I don't have an answer from Piedmont Models.
Maybe it is allready sold out and I have to wait for the second generation of this kit.
Does anyone know something on when this kit will be available ?

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We're currently out of Temptation kits - at $299 our stock didn't last long - and are undecided about producing another batch. We have an inventory of chin cowls and canopies to support parts that occasionally get broken in existing planes.

Lee Davis
[link=http://www.piedmontmodels.com]Piedmont Models[/link]

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Got my kit and the fuse and it is real lite 26.3 oz. Would like to know all the mods
that are done and if anyone knows a good book for building

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Lee, Any idea when the updated one might appear?

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ARG! How did I miss that $299 price?
Damn!
Does anyone have one they are having second thoughts about at $299?

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hi!
started on my kit !
haven't done much ...but some!
decided to used plug in stab (the gator way) make one plate to mount the servo's and rest off the radio equipment + tank have to find a tank that is low so i can get it under the support in top off fuse under canopy .
engine will be Os 140 RX with greve pipe.
servos futaba digs..and micro on throtel.
no pics yet but have started on the stab!
will put in the mods that are put in this tread some longer up!
sorry if English is not correct
Rune

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Hello guys!
Here is what is done so far!
have almost done the stab ready for sheeting. whats left is to glue in the support for the elevator horn and to cover the tube with the foam that i cutted out to install the stubes so the surface is smooth.
i used 6mm balsa in the root and glued 3mm plywood for the adjuster bracket.I aslo glued some 4 mm balsa to seal the tube in the end the rib that hold the end off the socket is 4 mm x balsa!
Rune

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Hi!
havent had time to do any more ..leaving for Norwegian Nats tomorrow so maybe next week....or the week after that ...
you other guys with kits...some happen yet?
Rune

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Pattern Proz in OK has two of them in stock if you want one.

918-258-0061

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Hi!
had a nice day out flyin!5 rounds with that good feeling when landing !life is great!
have started to looking at the wings on the Temptation!
the kit are deliverered with an 21x 1mm aluminum wing tube and remember we used 20 x 1 in the old days on the .60 models...i just think it looks weak..anyone know what other kits are delivered with?
Rune

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hi!
some weeks since last post so just to get back in business, the flying season isnt over but all competiton are finished so that gives more time for the project!
i have decided to change the aluminum tube with a carbon tube got from Probuild in GB .Tried to order some sheets for the wings from a small shop here in Norway...but all to heavy...pretty silly when u spec. the order to be not over 15 gr a sheet and ..no one under 25....
Just placed a order at Lone Star US heard some good things about them.
Have decider to start with engine install and firewall ,gonna use self made !QUOT!hyde Mount!QUOT! O.fremming Style (http://home.online.no/~ofremmi/Artic...hyde-feste.PDF) its in Norwegian ..but take a look anyway! the drawing that was off the firewall isn't correct at all i made a template from a cardboard ..and going to use good 3mm plywood (not ligthply) for that job!
Try to take some pics later !
also found a lot off good hints and tips in this tread by M.Novack http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_53..._1/key_/tm.htm
u should take a look ....better buildings instruction cant be found i think!
Rune

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Hi
take a look at this ...for those who didnt get one for the nice price http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=46651
i know the guy nice fellow
.. he bougth it ..but thougth that it was to high cost to get it shipped to norway

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some pics!

first i added some smal pieces of ply to make it a bit stronger behind the firwall.
u can see how the drawing didnt fit. the mount i'm going to use ....and all in place with engine ..just dryfit so far. I also cut out a bit more off the engine room !

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Rune, Looks like there is plenty of room up front. What engine is that?
thanks, Tom

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hi!
yes its plenty place ...engine is an os 140 rx!i have moved the firewall ca 10 mm longer back than the plans say ..but yes ...no problem with the room

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Nice. I'm going to try to find a Temptation for a winter project. I hope someone has one put away they decide not to build.

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Tom
i dont know if it sold yet ..but it is or was one in the us that a friend off mine had there ...kit that he was going to sell ..look at one off the links i posted some place in this tread...maybe ur lucky ..i think he wanna 250$ for it

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thanks Rune but, with having to replace my privacy fence, buying a generator and other hurricane related expenses, I wwil have to wait a while before buying one or my wife will turn that funny color and her head will spin around!;)

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hehehe ok!
so u was hit hard by the hurricane? i have seen some pics on the telly from difrent places over in the caribean ...looks terrible ...but it gets nice when its over !

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I was pretty lucky all things considered. I live about 250 yds off the beach and have a big condo bldg. in between so I just got my fence blown down and some minor roof stuff. There were a lot of people not as lucky though.
I will keep my eyes open for a Temptation this fall though, I saw one fly at the Summer Tangerine and liked the way it looked. Good luck with yours.
Tom

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Hi !
got my balsa from LoneStar today...looking wery good ligth and nice from 11 to 15 gr for 1 sheet off 1,5 mm !
Rune

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As an FYI I know where there is a brand new Temptation, all built with a Webra on the front. Just insatll Radio and servos and go fly. Ditto for a Focus-2 in very good condition. please conatct me @ my e-mail address.

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Hello!
Got some work done today!
i have got the wings sheeted done some work the past weeks to get the foam cores ready for that job!
i use Casco Polyurethane glue ..don't have the stuff for vacuum and epoxy ..so does it the old fashion way!
as i don't have a table that is good enough in my home i use one at my work!
the pics talk for it selves i should think!
i used also some glass which was layed on the cores where u can see the marking from root to the tip , this glass is used here in Norway to reinforce walls in the joint for the fiber plates before painting, its a very open type .
at the top to weight it down i used over 200 kg with cu wire .
Rune

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pics!

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Hey Eric I was just wondering if the person with the 2 planes sold them what do you suspect he would replace them with? Mike

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No idea at all.

E

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Rune, Did you ever finish and fly it? I have one that should be here any day now.