entry level pattern rig
 

hey im looking to start pattern flying and i was wondering what would be a good entry level setup for a patten plane would be.

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Question is what is your budget and what sort of equipment do you have left? You can try 40 sized pattern planes like:

Venus
Spot On
Excelleron

or if you want EP ... try the Hyperion or Sebart planes.

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tryin to stick towards nitro so far i have a 6 channel spektrum receiver and a 2300 mah 6v receiver pack thats about it i got some servos but i would have to see what they are. i have all building materials and extensions and stuff. my budget is whatever i have to spend.

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how makes the models you mentioned above.

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well i found the models sounds like the venus is the plane to get. any of you have and gripes with it?

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could you also put something like [link=http://www.prcmodel.com/module.php?name=onlinestore&func=viewprod&product= 14]this[/link] in for a motor

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Hi Spencer,
Were is Orangevale?
Hoss Allen

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bout 15 miles east of sacramento

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i was lookin on tower hobbies and they said that the venus .40 is discontinued and also where would i pick up a excelleron

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can someone please list some mor 40 size pattern planes.

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Try:

Kyosho Oxalys
Excelleron is by Sportsman Aviation
Spot On is by The World Model

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There are several clubs in the Sacramento area. The SAM field on Florin road has several pattern flyers that would be glad to help you get started. Or, you are welcome to contact me offline via PM or email and I would be glad to share information with you.

Woodie (aka Don Atwood)

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You can get the Venus .40 [link=http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?sku=GPMGPMA1025]here[/link] if that's what you really want.

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what do you guys think of the Spot On

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Hello,

There is a brief build thread on the plane:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8535380/tm.htm

Based on what was said, the plane seems to be a good one, maybe except for the covering used.

Good luck,


Teo

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if you can afford to go bigger then I would suggest you do atleast 90 to 120 size

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i think im going to get the small one first just to see how i like it i probably will but just in case i dont it wont be a big loss. if i absolutely love it sure i start lookin for a bigger plane.

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Spencer (I hope that I got it right),

I think that Jetmech is right. Larger airplanes do fly better and it might be cheaper in the long run to buy the larger plane now, rather than spend money on a smaller one only to be wanting a bigger one. Keep in mind that if it does not work out, you can always sell the plane or at the very worst keep it. Unless you are interested in 3D flying, there isn't anything else that a pattern plane cannot do better than a regular sport plane.

Just a suggestion,

Teo

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ok well i was looking at the focus sport and it looks pretty solid how does it perform.

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it does very well needs atleast 110 to 120 to get hte performance you need

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look at he aquilla too from north east dynamics

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I have the Venus 40 and the Venus II, and the difference between the planes is night and day. I suggest a larger plane, too. Focus Sport supposedly flies really nice. I wouldn't mind having that instead of the Venus.

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hey jet where would i find the aquilla

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here http://ne-aero.com/precision.html

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its almost 2 meter and needs a good 120 2 stroke

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not sure i agree there

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looked at the aquilla little pricey so im really starting to consider the focus sport.

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I am giving the Aquila some strong consideration for my second pattern plane after the Venus. I would like a YS 140 four stroke or OS 140 two stroke for power, however the plane is designed to fly ok with an OS 120AX.

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what grade of servos would you recomend for the plane i was thinking [link=http://jrradios.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPS821]these[/link]

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I have been using those on my Venus and they will work for ailerons and elevator. They work for the Rudder on the Venus but you might want a little more torque - will be good to hear others chime in on that one. I recommend a 6 volt battery.

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spencer321,

Without regard for the 'better flying' qualities of the large airplanes, do you notice the cost/expense going up exponentially with the larger size models? Engines near $500, fuel costs (min. 20% nitro) of operating them, props at $15 or more, extremely hi torque precision servo costs and the batteries to power them, transportation for the larger airframe, support equipment, etc. To some this is not a consideration. To others, it is.

This is not a knock on the larger airplanes. They do fly better (and will score better in competition if only because they are 'in fashion') to an extent. Just a comment on the cost differences.

Terry in LP

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tIANci . . do you forget the ANGEL 50 is OK for Glow ??? . . it is a very solid performer, and in the right hands, it is competitive through many higher level classes.

The thread is here . . http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_68..._1/key_/tm.htm

Here is a video of the Angel fitted with a YS63. It is over powered with this and would require throttle management however it is nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BxVp4miFYc

For simpicity, either an OS46AX or OS55AX is a great motor for this plane.

Cheers, JB

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if the ds-821's arnt high powered enough for the focus sport what would the perfect servo for it. and for anuthabubba i am willing to spend the money on a better and bigger airplane.

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No no no no no ... Angel is not for glow, its SACRILEGIOUS! JB is a RC heretic ... BURN him at the stake with 20:20 fuel!!! Hahahahahaahaa ...

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I used 821's in a 2M ESM Arresti and flew it from Sportsman through Advanced and into Expert, THEN sold it to a friend who flew it for another year. I flew the P09 F3A schedule with it a while back and was surprised at how competitive it still felt.

821's would be fine in a Focus. They are a little slow but they are a surprising good servo for the money for everything but the very top level. WOW . . having said that, if I was flying the latest and the greatest of everything, Jason Shulman would still kick my butt flying a Focus WITH DS821's fitted . . and that's a fact.

Cheers, JB

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JB has that right, it's 95% pilot and 5% airplane... There is no substitute for the pilot's contribution to the flight. We all search for that elusive 'perfect' plane, but as far as I know, no one has ever found it. We keep trying, but 'no joy' so far.

All kidding aside, any of the planes mentioned in this thread will work fine. It is up to you to learn to fly it properly. Trimming, a good coach and good equipment will help, but it is up to the pilot to make the plane go where it's supposed to go.

Woodie

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the only reason why i need a good plane is so i can sharpen my flying skills and learn to do my pattern to near perfection.

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http://ecsvr.com/abm/shopdisplayprod...verstock+Sales

Check out the first item on this page.....I don't know a thing about it, so this is not an endorsement, but at that price it may be worth a shot.....:)

Oof.....pre-installed retracts......never mind.....:eek:

Richard