Is 4 lbs. to heavy for a 1/10th scale car???
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RE: Is 4 lbs. to heavy for a 1/10th scale car???
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Brent I am going to put red locktite on my engine mount bolts. I don't plan on doing any lighting to the chassis because I know the chassis is going to be over powered anyway with this .28 motor. I am going to try a tuned pipe from a boat motor on my LRP .28. I think this car had alot of potential that associated did not develope. Too bad the did not design a stronger pinion, diff gear setup it should hold up for draggin but for road racing where the race last for 30 min or longer the diff is known to fail.
Brent I am going to put red locktite on my engine mount bolts. I don't plan on doing any lighting to the chassis because I know the chassis is going to be over powered anyway with this .28 motor. I am going to try a tuned pipe from a boat motor on my LRP .28. I think this car had alot of potential that associated did not develope. Too bad the did not design a stronger pinion, diff gear setup it should hold up for draggin but for road racing where the race last for 30 min or longer the diff is known to fail.
Now tell me about that .28 motor. Is it a high revving mill that is more powerful than a .21? How much are they and are they very popular today? What is the fastest that you know of one of those .28 motors? What is your goal with yours?
I never knew that the diffs used to go out at races. That is interesting to know that I wasn't going crazy myself.
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Nothing special about this motor it is a stock LRP .28 imported here by associated. Just giving the chassis a shake down to see how well it can handle some power. My objective is to turn my Nitro TC-3 into a high speed oval racer like Nascar
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A company I think it was IRS made metal pinion gears which were suppose to take care of that problem , some people believe that more attention should be paid to shimming the diff .
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The only problem I see with that is your throttle servo and battery may be an issue. I definately looked at doing mine that way too but those things were in the way. Looking good though. Is that the TC3 that you showed me a while back with the 1/8th scale tires on it?
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RE: Is 4 lbs. to heavy for a 1/10th scale car???
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The only problem I see with that is your throttle servo and battery may be an issue. I definately looked at doing mine that way too but those things were in the way. Looking good though. Is that the TC3 that you showed me a while back with the 1/8th scale tires on it?
The only problem I see with that is your throttle servo and battery may be an issue. I definately looked at doing mine that way too but those things were in the way. Looking good though. Is that the TC3 that you showed me a while back with the 1/8th scale tires on it?
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ORIGINAL: nitrohead5300 Always more than one way to skin a cat!!
Got a question though. I set my rear toe with the car standing up vertically to 2*, is that correct or should I go less/more? I don't have my factory manual to tell me what the toe is with the car vertical.
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hey nitro, the LRP is going into the NTC3? crazy!
hey nitro, the LRP is going into the NTC3? crazy!
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Now that is what I like, MAKE IT WORK NO MATTER WHAT.
Got a question though. I set my rear toe with the car standing up vertically to 2*, is that correct or should I go less/more? I don't have my factory manual to tell me what the toe is with the car vertical.
ORIGINAL: nitrohead5300 Always more than one way to skin a cat!!
Got a question though. I set my rear toe with the car standing up vertically to 2*, is that correct or should I go less/more? I don't have my factory manual to tell me what the toe is with the car vertical.
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RE: Is 4 lbs. to heavy for a 1/10th scale car???
4 lbs a little heavy but it all came from that massive .21 bigblock engine. my RS4 2 weighs almost 2. but on the other hand my hpi savage weighs like 10 or 15lbs. big difference huh?
in the picture its my rs4 2 and my savage is in the backround
in the picture its my rs4 2 and my savage is in the backround
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yeah, thats what i was thinking about, the RS4 2 is about 2 lbs, so i thought it would be around the same.
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RE: Is 4 lbs. to heavy for a 1/10th scale car???
Well the .21 is running great BUT I will now have a new solid aluminum AND a solid steel driveshaft built for the car. The stock original and TC3 upgrade shafts wobble very bad under full throttle and is now causing the front tires to shake again. I found out by tightening the car down on rollers with resistance and saw the shaft vibrating BAD and the stock ones are hollow aluminum anyways.
I also have been busy rebuilding the old TC3 that crashed pretty hard last year and it now uses a fully ported Traxxas 3.3 with a V shaped crank, fully ported sleeve, RB mods rod which is 7 grams lighter than the stock Traxxas one and a cut down head. I fabbed up a big block header and Fusion pipe just like I did for the RB .21 and so far the motor sounds great and seems like it is going to run pretty good. This car will use the same Mugen 1/8th scale tires as well and right now I am just waiting for the Wolfe Pack Radicals 1/10th scale to 1/8th scale wheel adapters to come in. More to come with both cars as I am trying to get them finished before spring time along with painted bodies.
I also have been busy rebuilding the old TC3 that crashed pretty hard last year and it now uses a fully ported Traxxas 3.3 with a V shaped crank, fully ported sleeve, RB mods rod which is 7 grams lighter than the stock Traxxas one and a cut down head. I fabbed up a big block header and Fusion pipe just like I did for the RB .21 and so far the motor sounds great and seems like it is going to run pretty good. This car will use the same Mugen 1/8th scale tires as well and right now I am just waiting for the Wolfe Pack Radicals 1/10th scale to 1/8th scale wheel adapters to come in. More to come with both cars as I am trying to get them finished before spring time along with painted bodies.
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what motor is in that thing?! that head is crazy looking! i like it
what motor is in that thing?! that head is crazy looking! i like it
It's a Traxxas 3.3 with 4 fins cut off and I also painted the head flat black. It has been modded by RBmods.net with a lighter rod and the crank is cut to pieces and back with a RB Concepts .23 8mm carburetor too since it fits directly down into the 3.3 block.
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ahh, i was going to say it looks like the bottome half of a 3.3, lol. good idea. That manifold looks like it was a pain in the ***** to fit in there.
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Brent is your TC-3 with the traxxas 3.3 motor in it going to become your parking lot road racer??
Brent is your TC-3 with the traxxas 3.3 motor in it going to become your parking lot road racer??
a. 60% nitro
b. stock 3.3 carb
c. the crank was heavier
d. the stock head was taller and a tad heavier with all fins
RBmods new 3.3 that I have I am hoping to run faster than the 77 and in a TC3.
a. 60% nitro again
b. larger than stock 8mm carburetor
c. lighter crankshaft than the last crank
d. plus the TC3 has less driveline drag. It free rolls very good whereas the 4-tec would stop without using the brakes sometimes.
The new 3.3 revs very quick like my .21 does and adding this big block header and muffler will help too.
BTW, the pipe and header was just like my .21 header/muffler that I made up. Look at the TC3 on the stand and you'll see the same header/muffler system. Easy stuff to fab up and I am really enjoying doing so. I now have to cut the dogbones down to 1.550" so that I can use the Mugen wheel/tires on this one too.
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wow, dont expect some life out of those engines with 60% lol.
wow, dont expect some life out of those engines with 60% lol.
LOL. It is only for speed runs and I've yet to break one. Keep it tuned and you SHOULD be fine, at least I have been so far.
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yeah, i guess, must be getting good performance out of it with that fuel. sounds like you should get over 77 but what gearing are you using, and be careful not to overheat with the half head.
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Hey Brent , Ziggy's V-1RRR is looking wilder, and wilder!! I don't know if I am going to use a boat pipe now on my Nitro-TC3 it is tooo long and if you flip the car I don't know how well the pipe is going to take it. Anyway here is a picture of where I am at on my project.