Myth Busted!!!!
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I have heard for years that if you put a big block .21-28 in a Nitro TC-3 you would have torque steer problems . Brent and I both have big blocks in or TC-3's and mine tracks straight as an arrow and I am sure Brent can confirm this with his experences and video's of his nitro tc-3 right here on this website. Myth Busted
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I don't really think torque steer is such an issue from the engine as it is from the center shaft in shaft driven cars
Anyway, I would think that considering the shaft spins opposite to the engine, you could always balance the engine out by using a heavier/light shaft
Anyway, I would think that considering the shaft spins opposite to the engine, you could always balance the engine out by using a heavier/light shaft
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I have heard for years that if you put a big block .21-28 in a Nitro TC-3 you would have torque steer problems . Brent and I both have big blocks in or TC-3's and mine tracks straight as an arrow and I am sure Brent can confirm this with his experences and video's of his nitro tc-3 right here on this website. Myth Busted
I have heard for years that if you put a big block .21-28 in a Nitro TC-3 you would have torque steer problems . Brent and I both have big blocks in or TC-3's and mine tracks straight as an arrow and I am sure Brent can confirm this with his experences and video's of his nitro tc-3 right here on this website. Myth Busted
Sounds to me like u and nitrohead and brent are the only other guys on RCU besides me of course that know how ot porperly set up a car!!!!
LOLOL j/k guys!!! dont anyone take it personal just trying to get a few laughs!!
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lol. To be honest, I didn't do nothing fancy at all setting the NTC3 up. Just bolted the motor on and went. No weights added, no special shocks, nada. This also applies to my CD3 and it handles even better than mt NTC3 did because of the center trans design like a buggy. Nitro, now I'm glad somone else tried a big block in a "NTC3" and see that it indeed works just fine. I know miami and others have had big blocks in 1/10th scales before us but I've never seen them use the NTC3.
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I believe alot of our success can be credited to using extra wide tires for traction. This project has been so successful I am all fired up for my next project a modified TX.18 1/8 scale tires in a V1-RRR.
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I like those belt cars too but I don't see how I can get the 1/8th scale wheel/tires to fit inward like I want them to so that a 235mm body would fit. Yes the 1/8th scale foams also contribute a major help but I added them since the .21 was going to make tons more tq/hp than a .12 or .15 anyways. There's no replacement for displacement.
Nitro, man you gotta get some videos of your car running too and of course more pics of all the other projects.
Nitro, man you gotta get some videos of your car running too and of course more pics of all the other projects.
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Brent I am going to try to make a body for this latest project of mine . I made a vacuum forming machine along time ago in a materials and technique class I took in art school I hope I can remember how to reconstruct it. If I succeed then I can use one of the more popular bodies as a plug and make modifications to the rear end of the plug for the extra wide tires.
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lol. To be honest, I didn't do nothing fancy at all setting the NTC3 up. Just bolted the motor on and went. No weights added, no special shocks, nada. This also applies to my CD3 and it handles even better than mt NTC3 did because of the center trans design like a buggy. Nitro, now I'm glad somone else tried a big block in a "NTC3" and see that it indeed works just fine. I know miami and others have had big blocks in 1/10th scales before us but I've never seen them use the NTC3.
lol. To be honest, I didn't do nothing fancy at all setting the NTC3 up. Just bolted the motor on and went. No weights added, no special shocks, nada. This also applies to my CD3 and it handles even better than mt NTC3 did because of the center trans design like a buggy. Nitro, now I'm glad somone else tried a big block in a "NTC3" and see that it indeed works just fine. I know miami and others have had big blocks in 1/10th scales before us but I've never seen them use the NTC3.
I started doing a big block NTC3 i was going to use a ninja 21 but half way threw the project i saw the chance to sell the car off as a rolling chassis for twice the amount i payed for it SO i sold it, rolling chassis i would like to pick on up one day
i was going to use foam super nitro wheels for a taller gear ratio
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wow, well you never said that you had a big block NTC3 before. I just remembered the RS4 cars and such. How's the electric car doing? I won't say that I will never go to an electric car but man, the nitro stuff is just too fun and so real to me that I can't give it up. Especially listening to a .21 sing with a boat pipe.
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i never finished it, what u see there is as far as i got, i did have the boat pipe and was gonig to use a savage header everthing lined up nice, but when i got that offer i couldnt say no, i did drive it with a sirio 12 and it was a sweet drive
as far as the brushless TC4 its still whiping ass and takeing names, ive outrun every 100 plus mph rs4 in miami with it, the nitro cant compare with the way it accelerates litterally the nitro never comes close its such a huge diffrence it scares the hell out of me, the only reson i built it tho was becuase of how easy it was, nothing was custom everything was readly aviable at any local hobby shop which made it great in my book, when i first put it together with the FRIST set up i was geting 101 MPH on the first day and drove it, on the second day i got 105 MPH with taller gearing but could not go anyhigher since the motor was over heating and things where not working right, so at 105 MPH it stays not bad for a car i built in 3 or 4 days theres pics of it in the MIAMI thread if u ever wanna do one let me know
as far as the brushless TC4 its still whiping ass and takeing names, ive outrun every 100 plus mph rs4 in miami with it, the nitro cant compare with the way it accelerates litterally the nitro never comes close its such a huge diffrence it scares the hell out of me, the only reson i built it tho was becuase of how easy it was, nothing was custom everything was readly aviable at any local hobby shop which made it great in my book, when i first put it together with the FRIST set up i was geting 101 MPH on the first day and drove it, on the second day i got 105 MPH with taller gearing but could not go anyhigher since the motor was over heating and things where not working right, so at 105 MPH it stays not bad for a car i built in 3 or 4 days theres pics of it in the MIAMI thread if u ever wanna do one let me know
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I sure will get with if that be the case. Have you been to a drag race and seen the nitro cars yet? Don't get me wrong, the electrics are a beast in drag racing too since they have the record in extreme which allows them to run whatever cell count they want. The nitro engines can run whatever nitro % they want and engine size and so far, electric has been 1.28 seconds in 132' whereas the best a nitro car has been 1.33 seconds. That is close but still not the fastest. From what I've seen in the nitro cars is they can't really stall the motors high using a centrifigal clutch system and that hurts it leaving the line whereas the electrics have INSTANT TQ off the line.
Look at this bad boy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42196900806644
Look at this bad boy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42196900806644
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Yes ive seen that video and ur right brushless does have a huge advantage because of the cell counts not bying and issue my 105 car is on 4 cell set up and i get about 20 minuet run times
check these guys out there local BUT not really LOCAL, there racing down in homestead witch is about 30 miles from where i live but still considered miami dade county, these guys r running hard down there but none of my boys or my self go down there and race with them becuase no one is willing to take the drive check them out there all in 100 MPH plus club with 220 dollar motor esc set ups
i did built a nitro 1/8 scale to drag race with them on the tree but i have never actually taken the drive over there i will soon one of these days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghqHmrMONs4
check these guys out there local BUT not really LOCAL, there racing down in homestead witch is about 30 miles from where i live but still considered miami dade county, these guys r running hard down there but none of my boys or my self go down there and race with them becuase no one is willing to take the drive check them out there all in 100 MPH plus club with 220 dollar motor esc set ups
i did built a nitro 1/8 scale to drag race with them on the tree but i have never actually taken the drive over there i will soon one of these days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghqHmrMONs4
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Now that is some speed at 113 MPH.
Look at this Funny car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909JE...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfxpn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoyJx...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aILRz...eature=related
The last video seems to have a very well tuned car.
Look at this Funny car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909JE...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfxpn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoyJx...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aILRz...eature=related
The last video seems to have a very well tuned car.
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Brent ive seen those videos YES im a drag racing fan and all those cars r serously set up good links!!!
brent arent you useing the serpent/mugen/kyosho 1/8 scale push cluthes??? u can make those things engaje close to 30K, i got a few of them but never use them only on the actual 1/8 onroad i have
brent arent you useing the serpent/mugen/kyosho 1/8 scale push cluthes??? u can make those things engaje close to 30K, i got a few of them but never use them only on the actual 1/8 onroad i have
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yes I use a Mugen clutch system on the drag car but like you said, for my street cars, I use a regular clutch system.
Nitro, yeah I know that I can set the stall but alot of guys do that but it still aint enuff to get them nitro motors screaming just before engagement. I am sure that something can be done but at what expense or cost?
Nitro, yeah I know that I can set the stall but alot of guys do that but it still aint enuff to get them nitro motors screaming just before engagement. I am sure that something can be done but at what expense or cost?
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here is the same tc3 maimi sold me. fully restored with factory blue parts . i wish a had a . 21 to stuff in there, but a 18 tz does fine for my goals
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