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GraTou 01-26-2007 06:41 PM

Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Putting my axles to use, picked up this "stick" from a friend for a good price and in the process of building it. The Jeep I might use, but right now it is just a mock up and if I do use it, a lot of trimming work is needed to be done.

Stick Chassis
IMEX Krawler Tires, maxx rims
Locked clod axles, with 8T, 32P, gears on 45T lathes (not pictured)
EVX esc
4200 pack, might go lipo, we'll see
CPE MT clod to maxx wheel wideners (1") and adapters


90 degree flex FTW!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...u/DSC_0013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...u/DSC_0014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...u/DSC_0016.jpg

Acs_guitars 01-26-2007 07:46 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
looks awesome with the Jeep body.

Anomie 01-26-2007 08:06 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Nice! I like the Jeep body, too.

run2jeepn 01-26-2007 10:54 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Thats about 15-25 degrees to much flex. You need to limit the travel on. Even Kevin the owner of the Crawler Store limits the Flex on it.

Acs_guitars 01-26-2007 11:40 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
I was thinking that too.... I am finding that with my custom chassis (I hope to finalize tomarrow) about 60-70 deg of flex is plenty and seems more stable than when I have it set up with more.

GraTou 01-26-2007 11:53 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: run2jeepn

Thats about 15-25 degrees to much flex. You need to limit the travel on. Even Kevin the owner of the Crawler Store limits the Flex on it.

[X(][X(][X(] You can never have too much flex :)

dezfan 01-27-2007 12:37 AM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Want to bet!

That is WAY to much. Need to limit it to around 60* max.

Acs_guitars 01-27-2007 11:38 AM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 

ORIGINAL: GraTou


[X(][X(][X(] You can never have too much flex :)
You sound like the kid who works at hobby town here, and alot of the old RCC posts when high GC and 90+ deg articulation was the idea..... if you get in any type of hole with that rig the flex will make the torque twist you up instead of pulling you out and make things difficult.

dezfan 01-27-2007 12:43 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
As far as articulation goes, my opinion is that any more than 60 degrees will hurt you on the rocks more than it will help.

90 degrees of articulation is just ridiculous and not needed.

W/ 90 degrees of articulation your rig will be forced so out of balance so badly that it will actually flip due to weight transfer as the one wheel rises so high and the other falls.

It's the pendulum effect.

It will also cause you to get hung up on terrain that you would easily cross if you limited the articulation.

When you limit the articulation you are bringing other forces into play such as your rigs over all balance, your center of gravity, weight placement, etc.

The biggest advantage is that your crawler will be more stable and easier to drive .

GraTou 01-27-2007 01:15 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Lol.
Guys I know, I was joking. I know the whole flex thing, I just did that to show the extremes of the Stick.

nu2THISgame 01-27-2007 11:56 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
its funny how some people assume other people are noobs... lol:D btw don't argue with them they'll win with their experience:D

Acs_guitars 01-28-2007 12:14 AM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
I know Gra Tou (as seen on RCC :) ) is not a newbie by any means, but if a newbie read the thread and saw 90+ deg was used and no one saw a problem they may think that it is a good thing.[&:]

dezfan 01-28-2007 01:22 AM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 


ORIGINAL: nu2THISgame

its funny how some people assume other people are noobs... lol:D btw don't argue with them they'll win with their experience:D

It's easy to assume when you see a pic like the one posted above.


fire_boy92 01-28-2007 12:15 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Just lower the stick a little more that way when you flip it you can still drive around. The tires would be the highest point, you would just have to get used to driving it when it flipped.

dude7422 01-28-2007 12:33 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
hi dudes come on stick is a lame name for such a sweet truck stick sound like its made of wood please change name to some thing kool like RAMROD lol dont get mad its just a idea

dezfan 01-28-2007 01:36 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
There is already a chassis called the Ram Rod.

Unfortunately it's just a second rate copy of the PIMP CANE chassis.

The true name of the the "Stick" is the TCS Extreme.

But it has been known as the "Stick" from day one.

R/C fan-addict 01-28-2007 07:45 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
you could even go so far as to put a gyro on your truck so that when it flips it would reverse the steering to keep the steering normal. It'd be pretty sweet!

Rc EnthuSiasTs 03-30-2007 10:13 AM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
that would be cool!

GraTou, what ever happened to the p4 build, i never saw what happened?

Sweed 03-30-2007 12:50 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Looks great. Get more pictures, I'm trying to build a Stick from scratch, similar to the RocMaxx chasssis, but on a 1/25 scale....

So, too much flex is bad? Keep it under 60*? I'm a noob to crawling (not rc in general), so I thought the more flex the better.

BrandonJM 03-30-2007 01:09 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
Flex is not what we want alot of sweed, you have a lot to learn

Rc EnthuSiasTs 03-30-2007 06:09 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
too much fles will actually hurt you in most situations. Limited flex will allow your center of gravity to come into play, you cog isnt too great when a tire is flexed up over the roof, it also allows the car to apply traction to the flexing wheel. IF it just kept on flexing, then there would be little traction to that wheel. Sorry if that was confusing, but maybe if dezfan sees this he can help, he explained how too much flex can hurt, and it made sense!

Sweed 03-31-2007 07:28 PM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
I know I have alot to learn, but I'm building a similar crawler for the summer (guess were it will crawl), and me and some other people on various RC and Xmod forums are having a build off.

Rc EnthuSiasTs 04-01-2007 12:28 AM

RE: Introducing, the stick!!!
 
we all start somewere.....dont be nervous to ask lots o questions. Even though it is newbish, it is the best way to learn!


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