Need Air Force clarification
06-17-2004, 11:46 AM
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Need Air Force clarification
Hello,
I'm building an F4 Phantom to honor my late uncle who flew one in Vietnam. I'd like to get the scheme as accurate as possible. My main question is I know that Navy pilots have the initials "CDR." before the pilot's name under the canopy. Now, does the Air Force use the same initials for "commander" or is it done differently? Thanks to anyone who knows!
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I'm building an F4 Phantom to honor my late uncle who flew one in Vietnam. I'd like to get the scheme as accurate as possible. My main question is I know that Navy pilots have the initials "CDR." before the pilot's name under the canopy. Now, does the Air Force use the same initials for "commander" or is it done differently? Thanks to anyone who knows!
Steve
06-17-2004, 12:08 PM
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RE: Need Air Force clarification
I would assume that since the Air Force doesn't have the rank of Commander, it wouldn't be done at all. You may see something like Lt. XXX, or Col. XXX.
The Services use the RANK abbreviation prior to the name.
The Services use the RANK abbreviation prior to the name.
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RE: Need Air Force clarification
Hi Steve
Although I'm retired Air Force myself, I had to do a web search to check what rank identification was placed on the aircraft. Try a web search for Steve Ritchie (MIG ace in Vietnam) and note that on his F-4, the rank was abbreviated in capital letters ( he was a captain, hence CAPT). The equivalent to a full Commander in the US Navy is Lieutenant Colonel for the Air Force, Army and Marines and is abbrieviated as LTC.
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Although I'm retired Air Force myself, I had to do a web search to check what rank identification was placed on the aircraft. Try a web search for Steve Ritchie (MIG ace in Vietnam) and note that on his F-4, the rank was abbreviated in capital letters ( he was a captain, hence CAPT). The equivalent to a full Commander in the US Navy is Lieutenant Colonel for the Air Force, Army and Marines and is abbrieviated as LTC.
Dave G.
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RE: Need Air Force clarification
rank......all other branches..navy
O-1....... 1 LT....................ENS
O-2........2 LT....................LTJG
O-3........CPT(NOT CAPT)...LT
O-4........MAJ....................LCDR
O-5........LTC....................CDR
O-6........COL...................CAPT (NOT CPT)
Dont know that any flag officers fly
O-1....... 1 LT....................ENS
O-2........2 LT....................LTJG
O-3........CPT(NOT CAPT)...LT
O-4........MAJ....................LCDR
O-5........LTC....................CDR
O-6........COL...................CAPT (NOT CPT)
Dont know that any flag officers fly
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RE: Need Air Force clarification
[
]Sorry but the Air Force did use CAPT to identify pilots and back seaters. Check out the pics I found of Ritchie.
Also, Robert F. Dorr has at least one pic of an F-4E from the 34th TFS/388th TFW out of Korat in his book Vietnam Mig Killers (P70) that shows CAPT painted on the lower canopy frame to identify the pilot.
]Sorry but the Air Force did use CAPT to identify pilots and back seaters. Check out the pics I found of Ritchie.Also, Robert F. Dorr has at least one pic of an F-4E from the 34th TFS/388th TFW out of Korat in his book Vietnam Mig Killers (P70) that shows CAPT painted on the lower canopy frame to identify the pilot.
