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Old 09-19-2005 | 07:44 PM
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I got this from an auction as you see it. But, I don't think it will fly very long without a wing. So, I'm going to make one. I need clues as to what shape to make it in. I thought it might be a Gypsy Moth from the tail shape, etc. But, there are/is no cabane mounts on the fuse. I'm guessing its a .60 size 2-stroke. The turtle deck is made on a foam block. So, I guess it could have been an ARF. It's got three Futaba S-15 servos from the late seventies mounted inside. It's in really good shape, and well deserving a wing and completion to flying status.

Any guesses what it is? Or, what the the wing should look like? Sure looks scale like. But, scale of what?

Thanks, for clues!

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Old 09-19-2005 | 09:07 PM
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My first thought was that it was a Miles Magester but the tail is wrong. The vertical fin is very close to the Magisters predecesser the Hawk III, but the stabilizer is the wrong shape.
Old 09-19-2005 | 09:57 PM
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It looks like it could be a deHavilland Moth Minor. Jerry Bates offers plans in two sizes for one.
[link=http://www.scaleaero.com/jerrybates.htm]Jerry Bates Plans[/link]
Old 09-20-2005 | 11:35 AM
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My Guess is that it's a stand-off scale model of a Miles aircraft. The cowl looks wrong the tail, but since it has no attach points for a upper wing it tells me it's not a bi-plane. I think someone has taken some liberties with the outlines from the basic Miles Aircraft.
Old 09-20-2005 | 09:15 PM
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I thought about this for about an hour after making my post last night and came to the same conclusion as warbird_pilot. It is most likely a Dh Moth Minor. But someone took some serious liberties with the fin and rudder. The back edge of the cowling should curve forward not go straight down. Build a new wing for it, it should be a really nice flyer.
Old 09-20-2005 | 11:33 PM
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Given the fin shape, which very strongly suggests Miles, I'd go with that, although the cockpit locations in the model do not match either the Miles T1-37 or the DH moth minor.
Old 09-21-2005 | 02:58 PM
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Thank you all for your comments. It's clearly a stand off scale plane, at best. While the rudder contour is more like a Miles, the Horizontal stab arcing leading edge screams Dehaviland Moth. Then there is the lack of a turtle deck headrest found on the Miles examples...

The fuse I have is just over 4' feet long. Scaling from Moth Minor dimesions, that would make the wings about 6' in span.
I'm having a hard time finding a 3 view for the wing plan of a Moth Minor. Which is my luck, as I CAN find them for the Miles planes. Web searches haven't been too helpful with the Moth Minor in plan form.

Also, I really don't want to repaint the Fuse, since that will just add more weight. As I am toying with the idea of using this in a sport scale event, any clues or pointers to painting documentation used on this example? Or, is this destined to be a sport flier only?

Thanks, for any help you can provide.


Old 09-21-2005 | 03:17 PM
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Typically, the top of the wing was painted in the same camo has the top of the fuse. The bottom of the wing was yellow. I believe they had roundels in all four locations on the wing.
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Old 09-21-2005 | 04:07 PM
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Except for the tail fin shape it looks a lot like a Ryan ST. but there appears to not be any wing strut mounting on fuselage.
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Old 09-21-2005 | 09:34 PM
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It this what your looking for?
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Old 09-21-2005 | 10:45 PM
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Default RE: Help identify this plane, please.

Lake Flyer,
Thank you. That is what I was looking for. Now, to the drawing board.

All the best.

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