1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
11-29-2007, 06:50 PM
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1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
Well here it is, I ordered it last Sunday and the Kit was dropped off today. Looks like a Typical Balsa USA Kit, A lot of wood and a 59 page Assembly Manual.
I will use a Saito .62 for power and cover with SR-Tex. This plane is going to be built for FLIGHT!
I will read through the Manual a couple of times and should start gluing this weekend. Hopefully I will have this kit complete in a timely fashion, and have a good flying plane when its finished, and as for "Scale Looks" I'm not to concerned with Scale looks, just a good flyer.
ALL of your comments and suggestions are more than welcome and very much appreciated. This is going to be my FIRST SCALE attempt; all of my planes so far have been built for Sunday flaying, so I ask you, How would you proceed if this were your kit? It should be my goal to build and learn about this aircraft and maybe even the people who lost their lives flying them. You tell me what you would like to see, and again ALL comments will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help in Advance!!!!
I will use a Saito .62 for power and cover with SR-Tex. This plane is going to be built for FLIGHT!
I will read through the Manual a couple of times and should start gluing this weekend. Hopefully I will have this kit complete in a timely fashion, and have a good flying plane when its finished, and as for "Scale Looks" I'm not to concerned with Scale looks, just a good flyer.
ALL of your comments and suggestions are more than welcome and very much appreciated. This is going to be my FIRST SCALE attempt; all of my planes so far have been built for Sunday flaying, so I ask you, How would you proceed if this were your kit? It should be my goal to build and learn about this aircraft and maybe even the people who lost their lives flying them. You tell me what you would like to see, and again ALL comments will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help in Advance!!!!
11-30-2007, 06:20 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
A couple of things I would like to incorporate in the Build.
Pull-Pull control surfaces
Functioning landing Gear "Bungee's"
Recessed Servos (See Picture)
Tonight will be spent, Identifying all part and sub assemblies. I should have a Wing or two completed by Tomorrow.
Pull-Pull control surfaces
Functioning landing Gear "Bungee's"
Recessed Servos (See Picture)
Tonight will be spent, Identifying all part and sub assemblies. I should have a Wing or two completed by Tomorrow.
11-30-2007, 06:23 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
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A couple of things I would like to incorporate in the Build.
Pull-Pull control surfaces
Functioning landing Gear "Bungee's"
Recessed Servos (See Picture)
Tonight will be spent, Identifying all part and sub assemblies. I should have a Wing or two completed by Tomorrow.
A couple of things I would like to incorporate in the Build.
Pull-Pull control surfaces
Functioning landing Gear "Bungee's"
Recessed Servos (See Picture)
Tonight will be spent, Identifying all part and sub assemblies. I should have a Wing or two completed by Tomorrow.
11-30-2007, 07:45 PM
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I am very curious about that pix of the aileron servo installation (I assume it is another airplane model rather than the Pup).
How do you get access to the servo on that? And does it really work with the horn mounted to the trailing edge of the aileron?
How do you get access to the servo on that? And does it really work with the horn mounted to the trailing edge of the aileron?
11-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
No access to Servo unless you cut the covering.
When I built this plane I for some reason omitted the Plywood mount for the aileron, didn’t notice until it was covered and I didn’t want to cut the covering to fix it. Never the less it flies great.
When I built this plane I for some reason omitted the Plywood mount for the aileron, didn’t notice until it was covered and I didn’t want to cut the covering to fix it. Never the less it flies great.
12-01-2007, 07:46 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
ORIGINAL: FlyerJeff
Well here it is, I ordered it last Sunday and the Kit was dropped off today. Looks like a Typical Balsa USA Kit, A lot of wood and a 59 page Assembly Manual.
I will use a Saito .62 for power and cover with SR-Tex. This plane is going to be built for FLIGHT!
I will read through the Manual a couple of times and should start gluing this weekend. Hopefully I will have this kit complete in a timely fashion, and have a good flying plane when its finished, and as for "Scale Looks" I'm not to concerned with Scale looks, just a good flyer.
Well here it is, I ordered it last Sunday and the Kit was dropped off today. Looks like a Typical Balsa USA Kit, A lot of wood and a 59 page Assembly Manual.
I will use a Saito .62 for power and cover with SR-Tex. This plane is going to be built for FLIGHT!
I will read through the Manual a couple of times and should start gluing this weekend. Hopefully I will have this kit complete in a timely fashion, and have a good flying plane when its finished, and as for "Scale Looks" I'm not to concerned with Scale looks, just a good flyer.
12-01-2007, 09:35 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
One Outer Panel complete less sanding. So far all building has been true to the plans with No problems. One note though, when you are laminating your wing tips, it’s a good idea to make them about a 1/16 proud on both end to help facilitate final fitting. By day’s end I hope to have the TOP Wing complete.
12-01-2007, 09:37 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
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One Outer Panel complete less sanding. So far all building has been true to the plans with No problems. One note though, when you are laminating your wing tips, it’s a good idea to make them about a 1/16 proud on both end to help facilitate final fitting. By day’s end I hope to have the TOP Wing complete.
One Outer Panel complete less sanding. So far all building has been true to the plans with No problems. One note though, when you are laminating your wing tips, it’s a good idea to make them about a 1/16 proud on both end to help facilitate final fitting. By day’s end I hope to have the TOP Wing complete.
12-01-2007, 09:44 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
Wikipedia "Wing Incidence"
In aviation, angle of incidence is the angle between the wing's chord and the longitudinal axis of an aircraft (a fixed value). The figure to the right shows a side view of part of an aeroplane. The wing (dotted blue line) makes an angle a with the longitudinal axis (roll axis) of the aircraft (solid blue line). The wings are typically mounted at a small positive angle of incidence, to allow the fuselage to be "flat" to the airflow in normal cruising flight. Angles of incidence of about 6° are common on most general aviation designs.
Another term for angle of incidence in this context is rigging angle. It should not be confused with the angle of attack, which is the angle the wing chord presents to the airflow in flight. Note that some ambiguity in this terminology exists, as some engineering texts that focus solely on the study of airfoils and their medium may use either term when referring to angle of attack. The use of the term "angle of incidence" to refer to the angle of attack occurs chiefly in British usage.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%28wing%29.png
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In aviation, angle of incidence is the angle between the wing's chord and the longitudinal axis of an aircraft (a fixed value). The figure to the right shows a side view of part of an aeroplane. The wing (dotted blue line) makes an angle a with the longitudinal axis (roll axis) of the aircraft (solid blue line). The wings are typically mounted at a small positive angle of incidence, to allow the fuselage to be "flat" to the airflow in normal cruising flight. Angles of incidence of about 6° are common on most general aviation designs.
Another term for angle of incidence in this context is rigging angle. It should not be confused with the angle of attack, which is the angle the wing chord presents to the airflow in flight. Note that some ambiguity in this terminology exists, as some engineering texts that focus solely on the study of airfoils and their medium may use either term when referring to angle of attack. The use of the term "angle of incidence" to refer to the angle of attack occurs chiefly in British usage.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%28wing%29.png
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12-01-2007, 09:57 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
This is a very interesting link that may also help.
http://www.airfieldmodels.com/index.html
http://webpages.charter.net/rcfu/HelpsHints/ModDgn.html
http://www.airfieldmodels.com/index.html
http://webpages.charter.net/rcfu/HelpsHints/ModDgn.html
12-01-2007, 10:04 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
And yet anoher.
The common definition of "wing incidence".The wing's true chord line runs from the aft most point at the trailing edge to the furthest forward point on the leading edge. For this "typical" "flat-bottom" airfoil (it isn't in reality), the true chord line is tilted up relative to the Fuselage Reference Line, or FRL. The angle is merely a mechanical setting to the wing relative to the arbitrary FRL, and is not the "Angle Of Attack" of the wing.
That AOA is a varying parameter depending on airspeed.
The common definition of "wing incidence".The wing's true chord line runs from the aft most point at the trailing edge to the furthest forward point on the leading edge. For this "typical" "flat-bottom" airfoil (it isn't in reality), the true chord line is tilted up relative to the Fuselage Reference Line, or FRL. The angle is merely a mechanical setting to the wing relative to the arbitrary FRL, and is not the "Angle Of Attack" of the wing.
That AOA is a varying parameter depending on airspeed.
12-01-2007, 10:05 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
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And yet anoher.
The common definition of "wing incidence".The wing's true chord line runs from the aft most point at the trailing edge to the furthest forward point on the leading edge. For this "typical" "flat-bottom" airfoil (it isn't in reality), the true chord line is tilted up relative to the Fuselage Reference Line, or FRL. The angle is merely a mechanical setting to the wing relative to the arbitrary FRL, and is not the "Angle Of Attack" of the wing.
That AOA is a varying parameter depending on airspeed.
And yet anoher.
The common definition of "wing incidence".The wing's true chord line runs from the aft most point at the trailing edge to the furthest forward point on the leading edge. For this "typical" "flat-bottom" airfoil (it isn't in reality), the true chord line is tilted up relative to the Fuselage Reference Line, or FRL. The angle is merely a mechanical setting to the wing relative to the arbitrary FRL, and is not the "Angle Of Attack" of the wing.
That AOA is a varying parameter depending on airspeed.
12-01-2007, 02:29 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
sorry if i do not understand well you complex discuss i'm a boy from Italy, i just want understand well top and bottom wing incidence steps; i see on you build procedure that you aren't ready for top and bottom wing incidence .
Can you explain to me these top and bottom incidence steps from manual whit examples?.i bought at moment angle finder instrument .
for example when i get reading# 1 have i to add to reading 2# or compared
Can you explain to me these top and bottom incidence steps from manual whit examples?.i bought at moment angle finder instrument .
for example when i get reading# 1 have i to add to reading 2# or compared
12-01-2007, 03:45 PM
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After positioning your bottom wing to 0 degrees with it installed in the fuselage, you want the top wing to measure zero as well. Really pretty simple. If you set positive incidence in the top wing you will have trim changes as power is added or subtracted during flight. Try not to over think this.
12-01-2007, 05:10 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
I had a long list of honey does today, and my time in the shop was limited. However I did manage to complete the other wing panel and hopefully the center section tonight.
Grimmace , I think you a correct about not over thinking the problem. I think sometimes kit mfg try to make directions as simple as they can but sometimes they just get you more confused. I have not made it to that section and until I do it it’s hard for me to give advice. If all goes well I should be there by next week.
Grimmace , I think you a correct about not over thinking the problem. I think sometimes kit mfg try to make directions as simple as they can but sometimes they just get you more confused. I have not made it to that section and until I do it it’s hard for me to give advice. If all goes well I should be there by next week.
12-01-2007, 08:55 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
Two outer panels and center section are now complete. I will start sanding tomorrow and join the three together. Tomorrow I should be able to get a good start and the bottom wing as well.
12-02-2007, 11:00 AM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
I just found somthing I am going to use on my plane.
Rib stitching and Pinking
http://home.cablerocket.com/~scaleribstitch/index.htm
http://www.getstencils.com/
Rib stitching and Pinking
http://home.cablerocket.com/~scaleribstitch/index.htm
http://www.getstencils.com/
12-02-2007, 05:12 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
No picture today just a headache from all the Balsa dust I have inhaled. I have the top wing just about ready to join ( more sanding), and one panel of the bottom wing complete. My goal is to have both wings complete by next week. You may think I’m off the races and build fast, but when I start a plane I spend ALL day in my shop, my wife loves it. Once I get a plane framed up, I take a lot of time on the trim and paint, and that’s my down fall. Framing up is the quick part.
12-02-2007, 06:48 PM
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RE: 1/6 SCALE SOPWITH PUP "Build"
Well this wing is on its way, should have the other finished by the weekend.
This will be the third Balsa USA kit I built and can recommend them highly. I have had NO problems at all with the kit or the instructions, this one included.
This will be the third Balsa USA kit I built and can recommend them highly. I have had NO problems at all with the kit or the instructions, this one included.