Favourite Scale Models in Flight
01-26-2010, 04:30 AM
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ORIGINAL: David Bathe
Doesn't seem to bother me the the focal point is acctually the rudder!... it's just a great, well balanced pic', with marvelous colour tones, contrasts and dynamics etc.The art director approves. Sold.
Doesn't seem to bother me the the focal point is acctually the rudder!... it's just a great, well balanced pic', with marvelous colour tones, contrasts and dynamics etc.The art director approves. Sold.
BTW, while I love these "high octane" close-ups, I also really appreciate the more subtle shots in which the model is just part of the total composition. The best are photos where the model and its placement in an interesting sky are inseparable.
01-26-2010, 08:28 AM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
ORIGINAL: David Bathe
The smokin' Pitts is a great foto.Doesn't seem to bother me the the focal point is acctually the rudder!... it's just a great, well balanced pic', with marvelous colour tones, contrasts and dynamics etc.The art director approves. Sold.
The smokin' Pitts is a great foto.Doesn't seem to bother me the the focal point is acctually the rudder!... it's just a great, well balanced pic', with marvelous colour tones, contrasts and dynamics etc.The art director approves. Sold.
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I agree! I think we can blame slow AF for the ''tail in focus'' phenomenon (that I notice a lot in my own photos).
BTW, while I love these ''high octane'' close-ups, I also really appreciate the more subtle shots in which the model is just part of the total composition. The best are photos where the model and its placement in an interesting sky are inseparable.
ORIGINAL: David Bathe
Doesn't seem to bother me the the focal point is acctually the rudder!... it's just a great, well balanced pic', with marvelous colour tones, contrasts and dynamics etc.The art director approves. Sold.
Doesn't seem to bother me the the focal point is acctually the rudder!... it's just a great, well balanced pic', with marvelous colour tones, contrasts and dynamics etc.The art director approves. Sold.
BTW, while I love these ''high octane'' close-ups, I also really appreciate the more subtle shots in which the model is just part of the total composition. The best are photos where the model and its placement in an interesting sky are inseparable.
01-26-2010, 08:44 AM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Hi Mark,
Gotta agree with the others - great pics! I like models to be 'in yer face', too - shows some of the extra workmanship that goes into panel lines, weathering, etc
TTFN,
Neil
Gotta agree with the others - great pics! I like models to be 'in yer face', too - shows some of the extra workmanship that goes into panel lines, weathering, etc
TTFN,
Neil
01-26-2010, 09:02 AM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
This is truly an inspiring thread. Here’s another one of the morphed Hun and an A-10 that that is no long in service due to an unfortunate landing but the last shows the new A-10 that we just finished the paint work that will take its place this year
01-26-2010, 09:47 AM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Hi MM,
Great pics - look forward to seeing pics of the A-10 in the air. The A-10 isn't exactly the prettiest of aircraft - but I love it[8D]
TTFN,
Neil
Great pics - look forward to seeing pics of the A-10 in the air. The A-10 isn't exactly the prettiest of aircraft - but I love it[8D]
TTFN,
Neil
01-26-2010, 12:41 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
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Hi Mark,
Gotta agree with the others - great pics! I like models to be 'in yer face', too - shows some of the extra workmanship that goes into panel lines, weathering, etc
TTFN,
Neil
Hi Mark,
Gotta agree with the others - great pics! I like models to be 'in yer face', too - shows some of the extra workmanship that goes into panel lines, weathering, etc
TTFN,
Neil
01-26-2010, 12:56 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Nice thread, great photos.
Here are a few shots of my dear old Proctor Jenny. First one is original finish, then showing the recent refinish scheme, setting down in a farmer's field. Good flying model.
John
Here are a few shots of my dear old Proctor Jenny. First one is original finish, then showing the recent refinish scheme, setting down in a farmer's field. Good flying model.
John
01-26-2010, 01:04 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Thanks Neil, the owner of the A-10 has had it flying already and is taking it to Florida Jets. We should be getting so good picture of it in flight then and I will post them
Abuflecture Now that say that, it does have the front view of an attack helicopter
Like Neil stated, not the prettiest plane around but it sure is the meanest and paint on the boar face was a real challenge.
Abuflecture Now that say that, it does have the front view of an attack helicopter
Like Neil stated, not the prettiest plane around but it sure is the meanest and paint on the boar face was a real challenge.
01-26-2010, 02:44 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
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Thanks Neil, the owner of the A-10 has had it flying already and is taking it to Florida Jets. We should be getting so good picture of it in flight then and I will post them
Abuflecture Now that say that, it does have the front view of an attack helicopter Like Neil stated, not the prettiest plane around but it sure is the meanest and paint on the boar face was a real challenge.
Thanks Neil, the owner of the A-10 has had it flying already and is taking it to Florida Jets. We should be getting so good picture of it in flight then and I will post them
Abuflecture Now that say that, it does have the front view of an attack helicopter
Like Neil stated, not the prettiest plane around but it sure is the meanest and paint on the boar face was a real challenge.
01-26-2010, 08:28 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Just my way of paying tribute to both the builder and the photographer
I'ts a shame we aren't labeling the photos with the owner/builder and pilot. I think while we are all ogeling (some drooling) over these stunning photos, we should try to give credit to the builders as well as the photogs. Just my thoughts. I unfortunately don't know who the builder or photog is of this model or I would give them credit.
Ken.
ps; 'Metalmorphous' posted the original earlier in this thread.
I'ts a shame we aren't labeling the photos with the owner/builder and pilot. I think while we are all ogeling (some drooling) over these stunning photos, we should try to give credit to the builders as well as the photogs. Just my thoughts. I unfortunately don't know who the builder or photog is of this model or I would give them credit.
Ken.
ps; 'Metalmorphous' posted the original earlier in this thread.
01-26-2010, 09:13 PM
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This has always been an hotly debated issue in photography. In more object-oriented photographs, such as those "in your face" photos here showing the entire model, the viewer looks "past" the frame and the photography and is primarily conscious of "seeing the object." It's the camel story all over again. We SEE the model, not a PHOTOGRAPH of the model. While it takes great photographic skills to make these photos, the viewer often doesn't see this effort. Again, the viewer only sees the object. And he or she will likely judge what is seen not on its qualities as a photograph, but for the quality of the object. It's a great model, therefore, it's a great photograph. Or it's a lousy model so it's a lousy photograph.
As someone who's always been interested in the art of photography, I've always been more interested in the photograph itself as an object, an object that has no independent reality apart from it's 2-dimensional existence. The photo below is not of much interest as a photo of a particular helicopter. Rather it's the total experience of the photo that matters. The colors and tonalities matter as much as the objects. The choice of framing matters as much (or even more) than the objects. The choice of focal length/perspective is crucial. Even the act of taking the photo at one moment vs. another moment can be more important than the objects themselves.
And so...is credit due the photographer? Or the owner/builder of the object? Famous street photographer Gary Winogrand often had people on the street tell him: "Stop taking my picture!" to which he habitually replied: "I'm not taking YOUR picture, I'm taking MY picture!" [8D]
As someone who's always been interested in the art of photography, I've always been more interested in the photograph itself as an object, an object that has no independent reality apart from it's 2-dimensional existence. The photo below is not of much interest as a photo of a particular helicopter. Rather it's the total experience of the photo that matters. The colors and tonalities matter as much as the objects. The choice of framing matters as much (or even more) than the objects. The choice of focal length/perspective is crucial. Even the act of taking the photo at one moment vs. another moment can be more important than the objects themselves.
And so...is credit due the photographer? Or the owner/builder of the object? Famous street photographer Gary Winogrand often had people on the street tell him: "Stop taking my picture!" to which he habitually replied: "I'm not taking YOUR picture, I'm taking MY picture!" [8D]
01-26-2010, 10:11 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Great points Abu. I thik to be an effective photographer you have to encompass many of the attributes you speak of. Thinking outside of our personal boxes helps us get to that point. Anyone reading this has already started thinking about their photography more. Let's keep the good discussion going.
Mark
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This has always been an hotly debated issue in photography. In more object-oriented photographs, such as those ''in your face'' photos here showing the entire model, the viewer looks ''past'' the frame and the photography and is primarily conscious of ''seeing the object.'' It's the camel story all over again. We SEE the model, not a PHOTOGRAPH of the model. While it takes great photographic skills to make these photos, the viewer often doesn't see this effort. Again, the viewer only sees the object. And he or she will likely judge what is seen not on its qualities as a photograph, but for the quality of the object. It's a great model, therefore, it's a great photograph. Or it's a lousy model so it's a lousy photograph.
As someone who's always been interested in the art of photography, I've always been more interested in the photograph itself as an object, an object that has no independent reality apart from it's 2-dimensional existence. The photo below is not of much interest as a photo of a particular helicopter. Rather it's the total experience of the photo that matters. The colors and tonalities matter as much as the objects. The choice of framing matters as much (or even more) than the objects. The choice of focal length/perspective is crucial. Even the act of taking the photo at one moment vs. another moment can be more important than the objects themselves.
And so...is credit due the photographer? Or the owner/builder of the object? Famous street photographer Gary Winogrand often had people on the street tell him: ''Stop taking my picture!'' to which he habitually replied: ''I'm not taking YOUR picture, I'm taking MY picture!'' [8D]
This has always been an hotly debated issue in photography. In more object-oriented photographs, such as those ''in your face'' photos here showing the entire model, the viewer looks ''past'' the frame and the photography and is primarily conscious of ''seeing the object.'' It's the camel story all over again. We SEE the model, not a PHOTOGRAPH of the model. While it takes great photographic skills to make these photos, the viewer often doesn't see this effort. Again, the viewer only sees the object. And he or she will likely judge what is seen not on its qualities as a photograph, but for the quality of the object. It's a great model, therefore, it's a great photograph. Or it's a lousy model so it's a lousy photograph.
As someone who's always been interested in the art of photography, I've always been more interested in the photograph itself as an object, an object that has no independent reality apart from it's 2-dimensional existence. The photo below is not of much interest as a photo of a particular helicopter. Rather it's the total experience of the photo that matters. The colors and tonalities matter as much as the objects. The choice of framing matters as much (or even more) than the objects. The choice of focal length/perspective is crucial. Even the act of taking the photo at one moment vs. another moment can be more important than the objects themselves.
And so...is credit due the photographer? Or the owner/builder of the object? Famous street photographer Gary Winogrand often had people on the street tell him: ''Stop taking my picture!'' to which he habitually replied: ''I'm not taking YOUR picture, I'm taking MY picture!'' [8D]
01-26-2010, 10:19 PM
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And just to be clear, this isn't just about tele vs. wide-angle shots. Neil's close telephoto crop of the cockpit of Ali's Hawk starts moving towards abstraction and a focus on photography vs. object (while at the same time still giving us a good look at Ali's modeling skills). Conversely, my wide angle shot of the cockpit interior of the Bell helicopter doesn't force the viewer's attention to the art of the photography but rather (hopefully) gives the viewer the feeling of standing right there where I was. The viewer can experience the reality of this chopper interior in the same way I did. This is often what documentary photographers are after.
01-26-2010, 10:46 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
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Just my way of paying tribute to both the builder and the photographer
I'ts a shame we aren't labeling the photos with the owner/builder and pilot. I think while we are all ogeling (some drooling) over these stunning photos, we should try to give credit to the builders as well as the photogs. Just my thoughts. I unfortunately don't know who the builder or photog is of this model or I would give them credit.
Ken.
ps; 'Metalmorphous' posted the original earlier in this thread.
Just my way of paying tribute to both the builder and the photographer
I'ts a shame we aren't labeling the photos with the owner/builder and pilot. I think while we are all ogeling (some drooling) over these stunning photos, we should try to give credit to the builders as well as the photogs. Just my thoughts. I unfortunately don't know who the builder or photog is of this model or I would give them credit.
Ken.
ps; 'Metalmorphous' posted the original earlier in this thread.
02-02-2010, 07:45 AM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Hi Guys,
Mark, love the Triplane - looks the dog's danglies - fabulous pictures, mate.
Fletch, some interesting points, again. Liked your other photography thread
Thought I'd post some airliners of a bygone age this time. Unfortuneately the Handley Page HP42 is no longer around, after a battery failure. Great shame because this was a very unusual model.
TTFN,
Neil
Mark, love the Triplane - looks the dog's danglies - fabulous pictures, mate.
Fletch, some interesting points, again. Liked your other photography thread
Thought I'd post some airliners of a bygone age this time. Unfortuneately the Handley Page HP42 is no longer around, after a battery failure. Great shame because this was a very unusual model.
TTFN,
Neil
02-02-2010, 02:49 PM
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RE: Favourite Scale Models in Flight
Kind of a quiz ...... I'll let you name it, and accurately describe the model yourself.
Let's see how close you can come ?
Ed
Let's see how close you can come ?
Ed