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Good job with the video Steve. When Art called "emergency landing", i am watching and wondering why is he having an emergency? :eek: No throttle control would explain that. Glad she went to idle. :) By the way, nice field.

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It's a very nice field, only wish it were closer to me. It's privately owned and maintained, about an hour away.

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Hi Greg and thanks. I didn't realize how much I enjoyed flying that old Eindecker until after I sold it - then sellers remorse set in. Although this new Eindecker is only Fun Scale and has conventional control surfaces and my old Eindecker was built for competition scale and had wing warping and a full flying tail, they both fly in a similar fashion......they both have pretty accurate scale outlines and I think the overall layout of the original Fokker design sets the parameters (to a degree) of how the models fly.

They are both "rudder" ships, that's for sure! I think that the Larry Folk kit, with a few modifications, could be turned into a first class competition model. As it is, it has a scale outline and is a super stable flying model.......as you could see from the video it is rock solid on landing. It might take a while for a modeler to learn how to fly a "rudder" ship, it is a little different from a conventional model, but he would be rewarded with a great flying model that's a bit different from the ordinary.

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Steve - thank you so much for driving down and shooting the video for the maiden flight of my version of the "Larry Folk" Eindecker kit.
You add so much to our WWI modeling community and don't get nearly enough credit for all that you do - and it was a nice surprise to see that Matt made the trip, too! He is another unsung "mover and shaker" of the WWI fraternity, especially in the Hoosier Dawn Patrol. Thanks go out to you both. You are very much appreciated!

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Well Done Art!
Rich

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Hi Art,
Where did you get your pilot? I have been looking for one of those for a while. I have one in my 1/3 Waco and need another for my 1/3 Cub.
BTW: The plane looks great!!
Anthony

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Thank you Rich.

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Congrats on the maiden flight Art http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...eeth_smile.gif


And now time to enjoy from the plane.

Teus

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Thanks Teus - can't sit back yet - still a lot of detailing to do.....Art

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Outstanding jo Art, congrats. I wish I was able to make the Ohio and or the Hoosier Dawn Patrols this year, I always enjoy flying with you guys but I have other obligations. I probably have 18 flights on the #2 Alby this year. Flies like a dream. I can not wait until this plane is available, I will definetly build one. Again, congrats !!

Wild Bill

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Hey Larry - did you hear that?

Thanks Bill - Yah, I wish you could make it down for one of the Dawn Patrols, too........they are definitely a blast!

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Anthony, I don't have a clue.......a swap meet several years ago, I think.......I was lucky to have found it.

Thanks for the compliment.......it still needs lots of attention to the metal work, dummy engine, more paint & markings and on and on it goes!

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I'm back to work on the Fokker Eindecker!

I have the wing panels painted on the bottom - need to wait for the paint to set up a bit before moving on to the top of the wings.

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Bottom is dry - turned them over and got 2 coats on the top side of each panel.

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FLIGHT REPORT UPDATE:

Over this past weekend at the Ohio Dawn Patrol I got a chance to really "ring this bird out!" I flew my N-11 maybe 4 or 5 times, but the rest of the time I had the Eindecker up in the air. I must have run a couple of gallons of gas thru the Zenoah twin and got a lot of air time on the EIII.

I flew in several formation type flights - flying the circuit in a group of 3 or 4. The plane is predictable and stable and is fairly easy to fly this way - once trimmed out, it stays where you put it.

I also flew it in a couple of dog fights - it turns out it is much more maneuverable than I thought it might be. In fact, it more than holds it own when tossed around the sky with the other planes. That being said, when it is up against a better (more advanced) design, say for instance a 1/3 scale Sopwith Pup........I found myself on the short end of the stick - but it took a good pilot on the other bird to put me there.

On the last evening of the event, I found myself putzing around the patch with another good pilot and his 1/3 scale Siemans Schuchert. We were staying together pretty well, when I asked "Hey, do you want to land together?" "Are you serious?" was the reply.......I countered with a tentative "sure"......."Are you kidding?"......"Not kidding - let's do it!"

It worked out well and we took off and landed a couple of more times together.

What a great way to end the Ohio Dawn Patrol!

I think I am liking this plane much more than I thought I would!:D

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more pics...

me and my EIII

Paul and his EII

and Andy Morone with his Fokker DVII

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Bit by bit......

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Bit by bit......

the white patch is latex paint

the cross is black Solartex ironed onto the painted fuselage.......seems to work well.

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A Version 2.0 update

Working on the pull/pull cables and tail skid support.
The supports are 4-40 rods with Dubro ends and layers of brass tubes to get thickness.

Larry

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Beautifull work Larry!...it all looks so easy peasy bolt on...clean, strong and simple...

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I took the EIII on another outing this past weekend. I went to Derby Days Model Airshow, an R/C airshow put on by the Indianapolis Eastside Club. This show coincides with the Soap Box Derby held in Morristown, IN on the same weekend. It was well attended by the public.

I flew the Eindecker in the WWI gaggle with 5 or 6 other WWI planes. I also flew a dog fight demo with a 35% N-17.......it was a little rough with a wicked rolling cross wind.

I also flew the Eindecker through the speed trap.......25 mph on the slow pass into the wind and 78 mph with a diving down wind pass. If the wind were a bit more steady and not so rough, I could have got the speed down a bit more - but 25 mph is pretty slow for this big bird. In retrospect I should have flown through the trap on a normal cruising speed pass - I would guess it would have been 40 or so.......

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I took the EIII on another outing this past weekend. I went to Derby Days Model Airshow, an R/C airshow put on by the Indianapolis Eastside Club. This show coincides with the Soap Box Derby held in Morristown, IN on the same weekend. It was well attended by the public.

I flew the Eindecker in the WWI gaggle with 5 or 6 other WWI planes. I also flew a dog fight demo with a 35% N-17.......it was a little rough with a wicked rolling cross wind.

I also flew the Eindecker through the speed trap.......25 mph on the slow pass into the wind and 78 mph with a diving down wind pass. If the wind were a bit more steady and not so rough, I could have got the speed down a bit more - but 25 mph is pretty slow for this big bird. In retrospect I should have flown through the trap on a normal cruising speed pass - I would guess it would have been 40 or so.......

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Like deja vu all over again (thanks Yogi)
Doc

Is there a link to the company listed in the first post... I could not locate on the web...

Hi Mike
Larry doesn't have the web site up and running yet. You can send a private message to CubCrafter. He's the man with the plan:cool:.
Art

Remember that I was having trouble with the landing gear.......no temper in the axels.......well that problem has been fixed. I visited my good friend Paul - you all know him, aka Horsepoweraviation - and he cut off the soft axel so we could weld on a good piece of music wire for the axels.

Larry was going to send me a new set of landing gear, but that would require that I make all new flying wires.......that seemed like a waste of resources and time, for both of us. So this was a good compromise - plus it gets the big Eindecker flight ready again - just in time for the Hoosier Dawn Patrol, too!

It may not be the prettiest fix, but it does look much better from the front than it does in these pictures.

Here are a couple of pictures (if the site will let me post them)

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Pictures, finally!

I have been working on some fun scale stuff for the Eindecker EIII.
Rib stitching.

Using some old radio tuner cord that I have had laying around.
Coated with thin CA and cut into 1/4" lengths.
Glued to wing and covered with 1/2 wide strips of Solartex to match covering.

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Larry

I broke the big Eindecker at the Hoosier Dawn Patrol........a very high speed one wheel touch and go that hit a high spot on the runway and ramped it up in the air and then back down again on just one wheel.......ocuh!.......broke the axel off, flipped upside down, broke the rudder off, broke the fin, stripped an aileron servo gear, bent the cowl and busted the firewall extensions that the cowl mounts to.........WHEW!

Not to worry - got it repaired and just in time for the Mid Atlantic Dawn Patrol in Virginia Beach.

Also added some metal panels to the forward fuselage sides as well as the hatch.......a quick addition of parts......it will look ok up in the air but don't look too closely while its on the ground.

Will add some pictures when I get a chance.

Oh, I almost forgot - the King post broke off and I replaced that, too.

since the rudder broke off, I had to dig out the hinge points.......well that left a bigger hole, so I had to add a couple of sizes of brass tubing to fill the void

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Oh, by the way.........Paul came to the rescue again and welded on another axel to replace the one I broke off. (I am supposed to take better care of it this time)

Art really nice plane WW1 haft to love them.

Glad to hear that repairs went ok.

How'd the Head Trauma come out for the pilot? :)

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Mike, he has had time to heal and looks good as ever.......ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?........his PLASTIC SURGERY went very well. Thanks for asking.

I got one of the side vents finished and installed.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=1925875 RIMSHOT

Good one Art!

Thanks dreamwever. Yep, WWI is the best. You're relatively close to Virginia Beach, are you heading up to the Mid Atlantic Dawn Patrol this coming weekend?
For further info go to the Events forum and read all about it.

here is a link
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13804898258966

Any more progress on this kit or on the gear?

Winter's coming and I might actually build this as my next adventure.

whit

Whit,

I finished the revised version of the Eindecker with the under cambered wings and took it to the Scale Nats this year. We test flew it there with the G62 and it was grossly underpowered. I added a lot of scale detail and it probably weighs a little more than Art's, but he has a GT80 on his.

I have decided to install a DLE111 this winter and that should do the trick.
I have also decided not to pursue the kit business. It is taking up to much time from my architecture business.
I have several planes on my bucket list and I am only going to do modeling for myself and just enjoy it as a hobby.

Here are some photos of my Eindecker.

Larry