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Florian Kuehni 06-24-2003 06:06 AM

SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Found a kit of SIG's Ryan, as the poeple at the local hobby-shop wanted to throw this ''old ****" away...
Beautiful plane this one, I guess there aren't too many kits around anymore.
I'm not shure about the engine-size, it should be able to pull the plane through scale aerobatic patterns. The biggest engine to fit under the cowl is a OS91FS. Other suggestions kindly appreciated!

Flo

BobH 06-24-2003 10:18 AM

Sig Ryan
 
The Ryan was designed a long time ago and the engine of choice then was the 60-78 glo. You should do fine with the FS91. The plane builds pretty light and its a good flyer.. Good Luck.. BobH.

Florian Kuehni 06-24-2003 11:13 AM

SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Thanks BobH
The kit looks very nice. I read about this plane when I was 14 years old (25 know) and I always wanted to buil one. Got it for 50$, because the guy at the hobby-shop wanted to get rid of it ....

Do u know if the original Ryan still exists?

BobH 06-24-2003 12:23 PM

Ryan
 
There are several Ryan's flying today. I think that the plane SIG choose to model was a mofidied STA Special. It has a larger engine by 25 hp than the standard STA. Also I believe the front cockpit was not used but kept covered. That plane was on the air show circuit for some years. I dont know if it still flies..??. BobH

Florian Kuehni 06-24-2003 12:31 PM

SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Form what I know, this plane was a one-off modification. It was powered by a 200hp Ranger engine. It could easily be identified by its b/w checkerboard scheme on the underside of the wings.

drifter 06-24-2003 01:40 PM

Ryan
 
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This Sig Ryan is currently flying well at our field on an OS 91

Florian Kuehni 06-24-2003 01:45 PM

Ryan builder
 
drifter
Have you built this plane? If not, how can I get in contact with the builder

There's a few questions from my side about do's and dont's, especially the aileron linkage.

nchrome 06-25-2003 08:47 PM

SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Florian Kuehni when you go to build the Ryan throw away the hinge set up that is in the kit. Instead use Dubro hinges they will help out the control surfaces a bunch. I just replaced the hinges on mine and they are working just fine. If you don't you will have a lot of play in the hinge line later. Of corse I converted my extra ST Ryan to a bipe and she looks quite good. I still have the original ST Ryan also but the bipe realy looks quite well. Of course I don't have the wheel pants anymore but I found a set and I think I mite try to use them on the bipe. If I could ever figure out how to post pictures on the web site I would post them for you to see. She is also covered in chrom monokote with a checker board pattern on the bottom of the wings. If you have any questions I'll be glad to try to help.

Florian Kuehni 06-27-2003 05:47 AM

SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
nchrome
Thanks for your advice. I planned to use other hinges anyway. Just good to see that others weren't too much impressed by the hinge setup.
You can post pictures on this forum, very easy:
If you post a reply, just look a little bit further down on the same page -> attach file. U can specify the graphics file there. Remember that it has to be smaller than 70000 bytes and it's dimensions are 700 by 700 pixels max.
Flo

jwl 11-04-2003 09:52 PM

RE: SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Ok guys,
Question about the sig Ryan. I just picked one up that was built many years ago. I think the os 91 4 stoke will be fine, but how can I tell if this was a sig kit?
It seems the fuse on this one is a molded fiberglass fuse!!?
Anybody know if the sig fuse is wood built up or molded?

Jeff

Florian Kuehni 11-05-2003 07:55 AM

RE: SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
The old SIG Ryan I have is nothing more than a box of wood, some metal, plastic fairings and plans....
Unless SIG made another Ryan STA Kit, its definitely not from them
Flo

jwl 11-07-2003 11:35 PM

RE: SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
After further investigation I find that it is the Sig wood kit.
The builder did such a fine job of glassing the fuse that it feels and looks like molded glass.
Rivet details and paint is outstanding.

Im in need of a copy of the plans.
Trying to setup drilling for the engine mount and I need to see the datum line and the manufacturers suggestion for mount location.
Can anybody help?

Thanks,

Jeff

nchrome 11-07-2003 11:50 PM

RE: SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
I do have two of these bueaties one has a SuperTiger61 and the other has a Fox75 They both have a pitts style muffler. The one with the SuperTiger I have converted it to a bipe.;) Of course I found out that I will have to cut two bays off of each wing on each side. Last flight it took me about 15 mins to get it down safely. With all that wing it just would not come down.[:o] It even could catch thermols if you can believe that. And I have wittenss to that.:D I have had it at the Sig fly in but at that time had not flown it yet. But everbody loved how it looked.

jwl 11-11-2003 10:31 PM

RE: SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Nchrome,
You wouldn't want to copy the engine mount diagram/drawing section and mail it to me would you?

Mike Denest 11-13-2003 03:41 PM

RE: Ryan
 

ORIGINAL: BobH

There are several Ryan's flying today. I think that the plane SIG choose to model was a mofidied STA Special. It has a larger engine by 25 hp than the standard STA. Also I believe the front cockpit was not used but kept covered. That plane was on the air show circuit for some years. I dont know if it still flies..??. BobH
I checked www.landings.com for the N27JG registration. It's still active.

N-number : N27JG
Aircraft Serial Number : 151
Aircraft Manufacturer : RYAN AERONAUTICAL
Model : ST-A
Engine Manufacturer : AMA/EXPR
Model : UNKNOWN ENG
Aircraft Year : 1937
Owner Name : GOSNEY JOHN H
Owner Address : BOX 155
LARAMIE, WY, 82070
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : 17-May-1975
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
Approved Operations : Exhibition

The standard STA had a 150hp Menasco. This particular aircraft has a 200hp Ranger with inverted fuel and oil systems.

RLamb 11-14-2003 02:47 PM

RE: Ryan
 
My dad was/is a good friend of John Gozney. I am sorry to say Mr Gozney's Ryan is no longer flying as it was crashed some time ago. Apparently, Mr Gozney was letting a friend ferry the plane somewhere. The aircraft rolled on take off and buried itself into the ground, killing the pilot and destroying the aircraft.
:(

Nitehawk 11-24-2003 10:40 PM

RE: Ryan
 
Hi there! I have an old Sig Ryan STA kit in the box and have laminated the wing tips, and fin tips, etc. Solid planked the fuse. I've spent more time trying to figure out how I'm going to put together and install the plastic stuff especially the wheel pants.. consider this an antique. I have posted another string about it - with a few pics. I now have the electronics installled, the fuel tank positioned and an OS 61SF engine mounted. Flaps are now operational. I am trying to use the original kit plastic pieces--except for hinges. Aelerons are to be adjusted so that they only move downward as designed. The flying wires were soldered to electrical post connectors having screw holes on one end. I am trying to submit some pics, but haven't figured out this new formatting.

Nitehawk 11-24-2003 10:44 PM

RE: Ryan
 
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Ok, I had to turn off the pop-up killer.

Nitehawk 11-24-2003 11:01 PM

RE: Ryan
 
By the way, I am planning to use wooden 13x5 prop. This a first "not ARF" for me. I'm sure it wont be "showable" but it'll be a topic of conversation in our little club. My wife suggests "hanging it" after all the time in it. She's seen some of my others brought home in pieces. I have a Stinger 80in w/G23 that I've flown several times, j-3 Piper Cub, Tiger 2, & TT40

Nitehawk 11-25-2003 05:57 PM

RE: Ryan
 
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Some one above asked for a pic of the engine mounting. This drawing shows an Enya 60 on a Sig Motor mount. The second is a photo of my mounting of the OS 60. I would appreciate comments on the prop choice.

nchrome 11-26-2003 12:22 AM

RE: Ryan
 
Nitehawk on your picture of your engine mount. For better air flow and cooling of the engine cut at an angle from just below the engine mount and taper back to the fuse blocks. I did this to my ST-Ryan and it worked out just fine for my SuperTiger 61. She's five years old and still going strong. :D Of course I converted her to a bipe and everone likes the looks. [8D] I've also got one with a Fox 75 on it and it pulls it just fine too.:)

Nitehawk 11-26-2003 10:04 PM

RE: Ryan
 
good idea, thx. :) I'm going to have to add more attachment rails to that block to hold the plastic cowl.= and split the cowl for the muffler. What about prop size?:) Do you have a pic of the bipe? I'm getting an ASP 75 repaired after an uncontrolled run-in with some ground rock.

wayne-RCU 11-26-2003 10:14 PM

RE: SIG Ryan STA Special ->Engine?
 
Hi: Flo
Here is my Ryan STA-M. IT's a G/P ARF kit with a G-38 an a smoke system. Flys great. I have to sale it to make funds for a jet i have.
wayne.............

wayne-RCU 11-26-2003 10:18 PM

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wayne-RCU 11-26-2003 10:20 PM

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