SLU can work with TBU just with a little modification.
Actually, TBU isnothing buta scensor. it is quite simple to connect it to SLU.

SLU alsoprovides a simple way to change the damage behave EXACTLY like a Tamiya tank.
likedrop-off 50%powerone first hit and the %25 after taking significant damage.
If you ask Fireman Tim. he can give you more detial.

Yes, it seems that many folks are happy with the system. As I said, I am planning to install this into a rather heavy tank with larger motors and gear reduction. I was hoping someone may have tried this before, so I know it will not have any problems. I ma using the Tamiya recoil as well, so wanted to make sure that too would work. I am thinking I will be ordering one to try out. I do appreciate all of you guys chiming in here. thanks alot.

Something that I don't ever see mentioned but will be very important tomany potentialcustomersis that these SLU units don'tbehave exactly like Tamiya Battle Systems. They send and recieve Tamiya IR codes (sorry HL players) and can be programmed to have the same reload times and hit points as per Tamiya standard. They can ALSO be programmed for a slew of things that nothing else can (including El Mod, if I understand correctly) and have a groovy, programmable light show , all of which is cool and attractive. HOWEVER,and this is a BIG however, they do NOT have the same power-loss schedule as the Tamiya (and DBU, IBU, El Mod, etc.)! The Tamiya loses 50% power to the drive motors after the first few hits and then an additional 25% (for a total of %75) at a further designated number of hits (depending on the size class) before being completely destroyed. The SLU NEVER LOSES THE LAST 25%!!! This is an important point for those who run in competitive clubs! Because it does NOT lose this last 25%, SLU equipped tanks have a distinct advantage over Tamiya Compliant tanks (to coin a phrase). This may become an issue with tanks clubs as the SLU gets more popular (though I am unaware of any current bannings, to be fair).

For the most part the SLU appears to deliver everything it claims and more, but I feel that the advertizing has been mildly deceptive in saying the SLU is "Tamiya Compatible"; while generally true in that it sends and recieves Tamiya IR codes and can be programmed for ALMOST everything else, it is NOT Tamiya Compliant. I'm a little upset at this since I went ahead and bought a unit before I found this out, and decided (for myself, this is all on me) that I wanted perfectly compliant tanks. I sold it on Ebay and took a $50 hit for my impulsiveness, and I don't want anyone else to burn themselves like I did. Please understand, I'm NOT saying the SLU isn't a good unit; every report says it is, and I believe them. I just want YHR and Yellowshaker(and everyone else on the forums) to be completely informed before they purchase. Just my two cents, adjusted for inflation.

Andrew


EDIT: Oops! Ijust read a post two up from me by Hulu saying that there's a simple way to make the SLU Tamiya Compliant, with losing that last %25 of damage. This is contrary to what Iwas told before (by Hulu, Ithink, though it may have been Fireman Tim), so I'm all ears as to what this solution is. Please, post it here! I've always been lead to believe (inposts and communicationsfrom the importer, Fireman Tim) that it did NOT lose that last %25.

Andrew

hmmmm i would think you could phrase that in a way that don't insinuate things agains other people '',that you got burned'' you did not get burned you did not look into the unit as you should have you didn't get all the info and now you put a little "opps" people should be aware of what you say and not jump the gun thinking you know everything when you don't just my 2 cents

Cheif the SLU really would be a waste in a Bergepanther.You would be using so few of it's features and capabilities too warant the cost of it. As far as that goes an RX-18 would do just fine.
Any one hear of when SLU will be releasing their LEO 2A5/6 unit?

Gee, I didn't know there was a professional IR Tank Club out there, silly me I thought we did this for fun. The club you belong to must have an abundance of tankers if they are able to turn away people away for not having "Tamiya Compliant tanks (to coin a phrase)".
Just my two cents.

not to gang up on Whiteknight but i just think that could have been worded differently that's all
i'm sure that he's a good guy just didn't check everything, it just should not have been posted that way and if there is a club like the one he is talking about i wouldn't go anyways not like there are Trophies to be won it's just for fun...ahhhh my new signiture...lol

The SLU also gives incredibly smooth low speed control with no jerky or toy-like motion. It's a brilliant system and makes your tank move like a tank instead of a toy.

Guys, I don't want a war here. We are above the petty stuff. I am appreciative that whiteknight shared his experience with the unit, and perhaps there is a way to make it function like the Tamiya unit does. This is why I am aasking these questions before I buy it. I will attempt to use mine with the RDS8000 radio, and I know this may be a problem. We shall see about it. I was checking out the website and I am also wondering about the stick movements mentioned on the page. It seems that you do not simply move the stick up to move the barrel, but partially up and then to the side. This seems odd to me, as all the other units are simple stick controls. Maybe I am reading this wrong? In any case, keep the info and experiences coming guys. I am one who likes to learn as much as I can about a product...and then jump in and buy a bunch of them LOL

Andrew,

Tim has very smooth communication channel with the manufacture. I forwarded your message to Tim
and he discussed it with manufacture and find out a way that can change the damage behave like tamiya.
More detail, please ask TIM.

Ah HA! that's excellent, because Iwas pretty impressed by the SLUoverall, but miffed that Ihad to dig pretty hard to discover that, at the time of my message, it DIDN'T work like a Tamiya unit. I'm really glad to hear that it does, and Iam now pretty certainly going to try one in the future. Hulu, two thumbs up for your customer responsiveness!

And Stince-there ARE clubs that bar certain features and operating parameters from competing in their events. This has in the past been in regards to IR emiter mounting depth/width and using actual Tamiya apples as opposed to Darkith's, so the (former) SLU power drop schedule WOULD potentiallyhave disqualified them. Idon't remember where my copy of the rules and regs are, but they were pretty specific...

Yellowshaker here is a diagram of the control stick for you, hopeful this helpful for you.


Whiteknight, I know about the rules and regs. What I'm saying is shouldn't matter who has what tank or what system. If a club turns away a tanker because does not match the right specs then in my opinion that club does nothing but hurt this hobby. This not real war battles, it's a hobby it's suppose to fun. At the last battleday I attended I saw a Panzer III with a DBU with an old chip set for 3 hits take out a Pershing and Sherman that had better battle systems and was the last tank alive. Was it better tank than the rest? No, it just came down to luck and skill. It was fun to watch and root the little tank on. So not allow some one to have fun, just because they don't fit the right specs, just doesn't seem right. I understand there has to be guidelines, but it shouldn't so restrictive.

The SLU is a great product with a lot of features for a good price. If clubs wouldn't allow them, than forget them. They just don't have the skill to beat you then.

with all respect Stince, these rules have long been in effect. I have no preference over one system too another but a club sets a system parameter and they must be compliant to not provide an unfair advantage over other systems. Our club as many others do use the TBU as the standard. We do not however bar or disqualify any type battle system as long as they perform to a minimum of that TBU. <div> With the SLU currently not being compliant because of the 25% drop off. </div><div>If this can be changed then most clubs will almost certainly accept it as ours would.</div>

At CAN-AM we just like to have tankers with tanks that send and receive IR hits. Tamiya, SLU, DBU, ElMod or whatever all are welcome.

Sorry for the confusion Lads.

The SLU will reduce its speed by 50% when it reaches 50% of its hit capacity. At this time, it will not reduce its speed to 25%.

OK, here is the good news. Mr. SLU (the manufacturer in Beijing) is working on a replacment chip that will allow the SLU to reduce power to 25% when it reaches 25% of its hit capacity. We want to test it first before it is available to consumers. The SLU is intended as an upgrade for stock HL tanks and I don't want the 25% power reduction to turn tanks into static pillboxes. So testing is needed. We are looking at a retail price for the chip upgrade of under $20.

I am very happy to hear people like the product and I appreciate the feedback. The SLU is not perfect, but I believe it meets a current need, at least until the next better system comes along LOL.

Certainly meets my current needs!

Currently enjoying the first one immensely, will be in used, again, at the Oct. 8th Can Am Meet.

Second one is going in the current KT build, which is one the go, now.

Third one is on my shelf, waiting for the next build (re-build of my 1st Tiger I)


Next purchase, the 4th one, will be for a future Panther project.

Only complaint; it has spoiled the stock electronics for me.

This is not to create a storm or anything.  I have the Hooben T-55 package which is a SLU made for the Hooben T-55.  I love it.   I battled with it at Danville in the regular "fun" matches and it performed fantastic.   Until all of this flair up over power bleed off I didn't realize this was a hot button issue.  I have the DBC in a Panther, and had to modify gearboxes, motors etc and add the new chip to keep it from becoming a pill box.   One major advantage the Tamiya has over all of the other systems is the 45 degree defense.  On the SLU, with it's IR Receiver setup it is impossible, even with designing some kind of cover, to have that feature.    The SLU uses 4 sensors positioned around the top.   The front and 2 sides are very close together hence, no defense possible.   That does mean a big advantage to the Tamiya.   At Danville, I use my Tamiya tanks for the "competitive scoring" events.    I love the SLU, and I find what Tim is saying about a new chip awesome.   I would buy the SLU without a second thought, if it was completely compatible.  

A couple things, just for the sake of fairness. Idon't actually think it's actually a hot-button issue; Iseem to be the only one who had issue with it, so it's not actually a wide-spread panic type deal. And secondly, now that I've heard there'll be a new chip that'll take care of this issue, I'm definately in line for one Ilike the SLU, and now that it'll be Tamiya Compliant I'll definately get one for my next HL.

Andrew

I told you this 6 months ago and you told me to get lost in so many words.

How can the SLU be modified to accept the TBU? The IR attaches to the apple and the whole unit plugs into the CPU (via plug and cable). I am definitely interested in this mod.

I too am very interested in the system so I am waiting for some more info. I look forward to seeing one perform in person so I hope Yellowshaker will actually take the plunge and buy one. Then i can see just how it fits into my custom projects.

Well Gregg, I'll install it if you buy it

Hi Guys it is possible to fit the TBU to the SLU, but it makes the warrenty invalid,because you have to cut the battle unit that comes with the SLU remove the top board then wire the TBU to the lower board.
    So before you do this i would test the battle unit first and see if its possible to make a cover, to try and equal it to the TBU,fit fins to get angle defence,and also blocks(screens) to try and get 45 degree defence.Anyone who has built a DBU should be able to do this.

  We are still finding new things about the system I would wait before cutting up a battle unit that may prove to be O.K.
 
I always thought that the Tamiya speaker was best for this system,but have been trying different speakers,and found that the tamiya speaker is good you cant hear the tracks squeek when you drive it,have found a speaker (cheap one 10w 8ohm 87mm dia mylar speaker) that  sounds good for the engine(not quite as bass as the Tamiya)hear the tracks and gun fire, both main gun and machine gun.

 I too would like more info like the specs of the SLU how much the ESC can take(amps)Maybe Tim can help by putting the specs on his website would also like to see a full wiring diagram ,on there and how different recoil units are wired up Servo recoil, Tamiya ,Hooben and heng long.

  regards pete

45 degree defense cover for SLU.

Hi Tim Sent me the ESC capacity its 30 amps,so cant see a problem fitting 480 motors.also found the sound maximum its 10w and 8 ohms.So the speaker i have is spot on its max 10w(normal8 w )and is 8 ohms,so shouldnt have a problem with that .Now just need to find out how to do the different recoil units,

regards pete

P.S like the way you done the 45 degree defence,if you extend the top a little it may well give you angle defence.