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Old 03-08-2013, 12:37 AM
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Default Ludwigs HL Tiger I Turret Adapter

Hi everybody,

again, there is something new comming.

This adapter shall correct the wrong turret position of the HL-Tiger I. With minimum work and without destroying and fixing the Hull.

It will correct the centerpoint of the turret. I am sorry, it will not work with the metal turret, only with the plastic version.



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Awesome explanation and layout of the step-by-step procedure as I was unaware there was a location error of the turret for the HL TI.

Very smart way to approach and correct this as I would have probably not seen the difference, even if they were side by side too.


Any idea on the cost? Will there be an option on the kit to correct the mantlet and barrel also?














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Well, Christian will sell it. I don´t know the price, yet. Just write him an email.

There will be no set for the mantlet. Sorry. It will not work with 2D chamfer.

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sounds good...how about some pics so we can see what your talking about?
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Äh? Pics of what?

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Meanwhile there has been some constructional changes.

A few guys recommended it would be better to design the lower part as a ring to glue to the turret in an inner part to screw, so you´ll have a turret without visible cut edges.

Ok, lets do it.

The front part needs to be glued to the turret. Also the 5mm thick turret ring.







To make sure to be able to unscrew the elevation unit, the box plate still needs to be screwed.





Now the necessary fixing points for the inner part must be glued to the turret.



At least the inner part must be assembled and screwed.





Rest as usual.

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PS: The adapter is now ready for production, that means, get in contact with Christian and order. He´ll also can give you the price.
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I can open this thread using Chrome, but not Explorer?.
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Ok guys, finally the turret adapter is available.

Ludwigs shop

At least a few pictures of the finished kit.









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That is one kit I want to get for me Tiger and that means tare the tank apart agian

Have a good one
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Just to complete this thread I added the missing parts.



Introduction:

Hi everybody,

again, there is something new coming.

This adapter shall correct the wrong turret position of the HL-Tiger I with minimum work and without destroying and fixing the Hull.

It will correct the center point of the turret. I am sorry, it will not work with the metal turret, only with the plastic version.


Ok, letīs start.

General:

This kit consists of plastic sheets of different thicknesses. All parts need to be carefully removed from the sheets prior to construction.

Due to the small number of parts in this kit, individual parts are not numbered or marked. All parts should be easily identifiable by sight.

Quality:

The parts of this kit are carefully constructed for a correct fit. Because of the use of different chamfers it is necessary to re-work the edges of some parts, particularly those with interior angles. These are constructed with an angle of 90°. Because of the chamfers used they have an arc-radius. Chamfer edges should also be removed.

Check the fitting accuracy of all parts before gluing.

About the Manual:

This manual has been created to demonstrate the assembly of this kit with pictures. The first picture will show the parts needed for that step. The following picture will show the same parts assembled. Most parts can be assembled in only one way. Whenever there is a need for instructions they are written below the picture that corresponds to that step.

Additional Parts:

The following parts are required to finish this kit:



A standard Heng Long Tiger I.

Recommended Parts:

Recommended parts to be used to complete this kit are shown in the corresponding step. Due to individual interests this manual does not recommend any particular suppliers or producers.

If you take a look to the ordinary HL-Tiger with the turret in 12:00 (o`clock) position, everything looks fine.



If you turn the turret to the 03:00 or 09:00 position you will see, that the turret center point is not in the center anymore. The turret is too far to the back.



This is the result of the used shooting system. Therefore, to pass the accessories, the turret has to have a small step.



Well, this are the facts. To solve the problem there was plenty of work to do. Now you will see a much easier way to do it.


Assembly Instructions


Step 1

Disassemble the upper hull and remove the turret and turret rotation unit.



Remove the marked mounting points.





Step 2

Disassemble the turret.



Remove the main gun.



Step 3



Glue the front section to the turret.



Glue the turret ring to the turret.



Glue the fixing point to the box plate



Screw the box plate to turret.



Glue the fixing points to the turret.





Step 4





Step 5



Mark the centre of the turret rotation ring.



Position the adapter with the cutout slot to the centre mark.

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Step 6



Glue parts only on the surfaces marked in the above picture.





Step 7





Step 8

Finish the clips as shown in the above picture. The left clip is before and the right clip is after.



The ring should fit easily with only a little resistance into the adapter, and snap into place.



Move the ring with adapter from the underside into the turret ring. Check the gap.

If there is a gap as in the above picture, proceed to the next step. If there is no gap then make adjustments with 1mm plates





Unclip ring and glue to turret bottom.

Screw inner turret ring to fixing point. The drill holes of the fixing points probably need to be adjusted.



Step 9











Install turret rotation unit in box.



Glue the box with turret rotation unit to the underside of the hull.



And now you can see the difference:

Before:



After:



No difference.

Before:



After:



Turret moved forward.

Therfore……

Before:



After:



If you are interested in where to get it:

http://www.ludwigs-hobby-seite.de/Tiger1zubehoer.html

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