Old Cluch steer tanks!!!!
10-30-2005 | 11:32 AM
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RE: Old Cluch steer tanks!!!!
Well this is probably not all that useful for this post, but I just had to post since it looks like a lot of people view this post, but no one responded. Well I do have a clutch steer.... and yes it is mod..... well to steam powered 
But to answer your question, I love it because it lets me only have one power source, saves me to trouble to dealing with 2 engines. Not a big deal with electric motors, but a big headache, not to mention cost, with steam power.
I love the clutch design of the tamiya 1/16. It works really well. I guess the down side is you can't drive each track in the opposite directions at the same time - it just stops one side or the other. So no spins, and less power than 2 motors. However, I'd just like to say that I only have the one clutch drive tank, so I can not compare clutch steer vs 2 motor But I am very impressed with my old tamiya 1/16 clutch steer, the clutch and gearbox performs beautifully for my needs.
The main reason that I wanted to post is that I was wondering if anyone know of any other model that has clutch steering? During my research, old tamiya is the only one that I could find which uses one motor / clutch.
Thanks,
-Crabfu
But to answer your question, I love it because it lets me only have one power source, saves me to trouble to dealing with 2 engines. Not a big deal with electric motors, but a big headache, not to mention cost, with steam power.I love the clutch design of the tamiya 1/16. It works really well. I guess the down side is you can't drive each track in the opposite directions at the same time - it just stops one side or the other. So no spins, and less power than 2 motors. However, I'd just like to say that I only have the one clutch drive tank, so I can not compare clutch steer vs 2 motor
But I am very impressed with my old tamiya 1/16 clutch steer, the clutch and gearbox performs beautifully for my needs. The main reason that I wanted to post is that I was wondering if anyone know of any other model that has clutch steering? During my research, old tamiya is the only one that I could find which uses one motor / clutch.
Thanks,
-Crabfu
10-30-2005 | 08:34 PM
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RE: Old Cluch steer tanks!!!!
Crabfu: Kyosho made a snowcat-type vehicle called the Blizzard in both an electrical and nitro version. The electrical was either dual motored or single motored. I believe the singled motored one was clutch powered. It is no longer in production, but it and its parts occassionally come up on Ebay and some vendors may still have a few. Good Luck and keep up the great work!
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10-30-2005 | 10:56 PM
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RE: Old Cluch steer tanks!!!!
Lester:
The Blizzard DX was the first incarnation, and was powered by two 380 motors driving separate gearboxes. You had two options for the final drive ratio, and the speed control was unusual... it was not separate left-right, it mixed 'em in some odd way (would have to show ya the wiring, the two controls are wired together and aren't the same) It had 5 rubber-rimmed roadwheels, plus sprocket and idler, and sometimes you got a snow-blade out front, and if you were lucky, stumbled onto the rare Graupner-release rear grooming assembly (anyone got plans, images or measurements?)
Then they released it as the Heavy Metal Monster Tank, keeping the chassis but ditching the rubber roadwheels for solid-rim chromed ones. The sprocket shifted from metal to plastic. They also swapped the groomer body for a Ford van body.
I ~think~ the DX was released briefly as the LX, but I don't have my research handy on this...
Then Kyosho re-released the Blizzard, completely renovating the chassis (ditching the monocoque tub for side-frames, crossmembers and underguards) but keeping the same roadwheels as the HM tank. They did drop from five wheels to four, and made the body a two-part assembly. They released it as the Blizzard EP (electric) that was track-braked, and the Blizzard EV, or Nitro-Blizzard as its commonly called now.
There were also a different set of tracks issued : BL10b's, which had every second 'cleat' missing from the track, supposedly to let the track slip a bit more when used on the nitro version. The length was the same though.
It wouldn't be good for steam conversion... styrene and heat = BAD. But for an amphib... a DX or HM with a Graupner mini water-jet... I'm debating this... if I can get a spare Bliz chassis. Also going to start playing with better 380 motors, like the tankers are using.
WhiteWolf McBride
The Blizzard DX was the first incarnation, and was powered by two 380 motors driving separate gearboxes. You had two options for the final drive ratio, and the speed control was unusual... it was not separate left-right, it mixed 'em in some odd way (would have to show ya the wiring, the two controls are wired together and aren't the same) It had 5 rubber-rimmed roadwheels, plus sprocket and idler, and sometimes you got a snow-blade out front, and if you were lucky, stumbled onto the rare Graupner-release rear grooming assembly (anyone got plans, images or measurements?)
Then they released it as the Heavy Metal Monster Tank, keeping the chassis but ditching the rubber roadwheels for solid-rim chromed ones. The sprocket shifted from metal to plastic. They also swapped the groomer body for a Ford van body.
I ~think~ the DX was released briefly as the LX, but I don't have my research handy on this...
Then Kyosho re-released the Blizzard, completely renovating the chassis (ditching the monocoque tub for side-frames, crossmembers and underguards) but keeping the same roadwheels as the HM tank. They did drop from five wheels to four, and made the body a two-part assembly. They released it as the Blizzard EP (electric) that was track-braked, and the Blizzard EV, or Nitro-Blizzard as its commonly called now.
There were also a different set of tracks issued : BL10b's, which had every second 'cleat' missing from the track, supposedly to let the track slip a bit more when used on the nitro version. The length was the same though.
It wouldn't be good for steam conversion... styrene and heat = BAD. But for an amphib... a DX or HM with a Graupner mini water-jet... I'm debating this... if I can get a spare Bliz chassis. Also going to start playing with better 380 motors, like the tankers are using.
WhiteWolf McBride
