hl so called 1/16 pz3
08-19-2006, 10:37 PM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
I can't tell from the pics. Is it going to have the small bogies? Or larger ones? I imagine the suspension was there easy way to do it? (The susp is wrong for the style of tank from what I gather?)
Either way I love what they have done with the shell.
Either way I love what they have done with the shell.
08-19-2006, 11:07 PM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
ORIGINAL: gorehound
The production tanks had three sets of double bogies a bit like a sherman in layout but this seems to have 6 separate arms which was more like the prototype. Also bolt on armour on front was usually on later versions like the Ausf L and K but this would be easy to sort unlike the suspension.
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The production tanks had three sets of double bogies a bit like a sherman in layout but this seems to have 6 separate arms which was more like the prototype. Also bolt on armour on front was usually on later versions like the Ausf L and K but this would be easy to sort unlike the suspension.
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It looks like they stuck Walker Bulldog tracks to the front if it.
It looks like they stuck Walker Bulldog tracks to the front if it.
08-20-2006, 12:34 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
Looks like a passable "L" rendition to me. Since I am not interested in the bb gun, I would be tempted to replace the barrel and make a late "j" variant of the DAK. Can't wait.
08-20-2006, 01:16 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
The man is right...
I have to agree, it sure does look like this beast has individual suspension arms... but I have to disagree on the tracks. Look at page 5, and you'll see the cleat is much different, and track is very narrow. Then again, the M41's track should have been narrow too.
For HL's 'close enough', I guess it'll do... gotta admit, the upper hull looks good. Wonder if they used this one as their model?
I have to agree, it sure does look like this beast has individual suspension arms... but I have to disagree on the tracks. Look at page 5, and you'll see the cleat is much different, and track is very narrow. Then again, the M41's track should have been narrow too.
For HL's 'close enough', I guess it'll do... gotta admit, the upper hull looks good. Wonder if they used this one as their model?
08-20-2006, 02:32 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
suspension arms when the springs will be loaded ,they will face the other direction.
my pzIII-L model have suspensions swingarms(arms) and 1 shock absorber on the first and last roadwheels swingarms .
the tank comes with small double roadwheels .
look at the 2 spots on top- hull(vetical tubes) and height ,for the spare wheels ,
small wheels and double stacked will fit there.
my pzIII-L model have suspensions swingarms(arms) and 1 shock absorber on the first and last roadwheels swingarms .
the tank comes with small double roadwheels .
look at the 2 spots on top- hull(vetical tubes) and height ,for the spare wheels ,
small wheels and double stacked will fit there.
08-20-2006, 03:05 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
Please, take no offense, but I don't understand what you're saying..
ORIGINAL: schutzstaffel
suspension arms when they will be loaded ,they will face the other direction.
and sorry guys,
my pzIII-L model have suspension swingarms and 1 shock absorber on the first and last roadwheels swing. with small double wheels .
look the 2 spots for spare wheels on hull and height ,small wheels and double stacked will fit there.
suspension arms when they will be loaded ,they will face the other direction.
and sorry guys,
my pzIII-L model have suspension swingarms and 1 shock absorber on the first and last roadwheels swing. with small double wheels .
look the 2 spots for spare wheels on hull and height ,small wheels and double stacked will fit there.
08-20-2006, 03:14 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
have re-phrased it , does it look better?
(forums: english-french -germand) sometimes i dont remember anymore the good way to write it [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
i mean that their is 12 swimgarms on a pzIII-L (6 each side)
that the r.wheels are mounted on.
that suspension looks o.k. to me ? did i miss a point about that susp. in previous posts?
kapich ??[
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(forums: english-french -germand) sometimes i dont remember anymore the good way to write it [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
i mean that their is 12 swimgarms on a pzIII-L (6 each side)
that the r.wheels are mounted on.
that suspension looks o.k. to me ? did i miss a point about that susp. in previous posts?
kapich ??[
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08-20-2006, 03:20 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
ORIGINAL: schutzstaffel
have re-phrased it , does it look better?
i mean that their is 12 swimgarms on a pzIII-L (6 each side) that holds the wheels.
that suspension looks o.k. to me ? did i miss a point about that susp.?
kapich ??[]
have re-phrased it , does it look better?
i mean that their is 12 swimgarms on a pzIII-L (6 each side) that holds the wheels.
that suspension looks o.k. to me ? did i miss a point about that susp.?
kapich ??[
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here's a pic I scanned from my Panzer III book.. (Pz III is one of my favorite tanks from WWII)
08-20-2006, 03:33 AM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
thanks a lot !
pictures worth thousand words.
i need the pic of the top view of the turret ?
(hl top view seams to be different then my pz3 model ).
could you post it ?
pictures worth thousand words.
i need the pic of the top view of the turret ?
(hl top view seams to be different then my pz3 model ).
could you post it ?
08-20-2006, 12:10 PM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
Okay, Tom, you seem quite quiet since your ruffled all of their feathers with your first post. You normally post on anything and everything much less DIRECT questions so, what are you up to on this? Is this something you have modified from something else or perhaps pulling a little joke here. It certainly has the gray out of the HL box look to it, but maybe that is what you want people to think? Fess up - answer the questions they have been asking.
With regards
With regards
08-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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Noted.
Not afraid to admit I was wrong and a bit hasty in my estimation of the tracks. They look accurate for the Pz III based on my research--just didn't think anyone would notice/correct me...
Otherwise, I'm too absorbed with the upcoming release of this new tank anyway.
-Harq
Not afraid to admit I was wrong and a bit hasty in my estimation of the tracks. They look accurate for the Pz III based on my research--just didn't think anyone would notice/correct me...
Otherwise, I'm too absorbed with the upcoming release of this new tank anyway.
-Harq
ORIGINAL: bhop73
I'm going to have to disagree with that. They look fairly accurate for Pz. III/IV tracks to me.
ORIGINAL: Harquebus
It looks like they stuck Walker Bulldog tracks to the front if it.
It looks like they stuck Walker Bulldog tracks to the front if it.
08-20-2006, 11:29 PM
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In regard to the size issues. Heng Long's first non-copied, fresh from the drawing board tank, the M41, was supposed to be somewhat smaller than the Pershing, Tiger, etc. but it did not end up that way. This new PzKpfw III is also supposed to be smaller (since it is a medium tank)...
So, noting that HL uses the same components throughout their tank series (gearboxes, electronic boards, speakers, smoke units, various elevate/traverse mechanisms. etc.), would it be logical to assume that down sizing a tank using the same components raises serious challenges with regard to making them all fit within a smaller hull with reduced internal dimensions?
I'm not saying that HL has limitations in regard to their manufacturing and R&D but perhaps asking for an accurately scaled RC tank is a bit too much. Maybe their chief concern is in making the tank work with what they've got (without having to alter their internal components) than making it a masterpiece in scale.
-Harq
So, noting that HL uses the same components throughout their tank series (gearboxes, electronic boards, speakers, smoke units, various elevate/traverse mechanisms. etc.), would it be logical to assume that down sizing a tank using the same components raises serious challenges with regard to making them all fit within a smaller hull with reduced internal dimensions?
I'm not saying that HL has limitations in regard to their manufacturing and R&D but perhaps asking for an accurately scaled RC tank is a bit too much. Maybe their chief concern is in making the tank work with what they've got (without having to alter their internal components) than making it a masterpiece in scale.
-Harq
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Just say it ain't the same size as their "Snow Leopard" or "PanTiger". But only if it's true . . ..
Just say it ain't the same size as their "Snow Leopard" or "PanTiger". But only if it's true . . ..
08-21-2006, 01:51 PM
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RE: hl so called 1/16 pz3
I know you ''Tank'' Guys gonna kill me for this ''But im not to Crazy About the ''Panzer3''....Just looks like a Upgrade to the 2 other Panzer's they have...Just not to Crazy about the Gun ether! Very small.. I would much rather see a ''Panther''4 ! Med-Tank,,Thats a nice One[8D]