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Hey Guys,
Here is one I had 1 1/2 days to do for a customer. Almost done! Did not want me to mod the gun or much of anything else except paint it. Should finish up in the morning. Would have been no time to take pictures then so here is the unfinished still wet and not yet blended and matted, or dull coated.
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Here is one I had 1 1/2 days to do for a customer. Almost done! Did not want me to mod the gun or much of anything else except paint it. Should finish up in the morning. Would have been no time to take pictures then so here is the unfinished still wet and not yet blended and matted, or dull coated.
Don
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Torpedochief, Is there a specific reason for using dullcoat over the final paint work as opposed to just using a flat paint for a finish coat? Has it got
anything to do with the flat paint getting a shine in the areas that are/will be handled? Reason I`m asking is down the line I`m prepping up to do a camo job on my Stug III using Pactra Flat railroad paints by airbrush,and if you recommend an overspray of dullcoat let me know please.TIA,
Charlie
P.S. Congrats on your tank award!!
anything to do with the flat paint getting a shine in the areas that are/will be handled? Reason I`m asking is down the line I`m prepping up to do a camo job on my Stug III using Pactra Flat railroad paints by airbrush,and if you recommend an overspray of dullcoat let me know please.TIA,
Charlie
P.S. Congrats on your tank award!!
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Hey Don,
Thanks for tossin' up the pics of this Tiger project. I'm getting ready to paint my first tank which is also an HL Tiger in panzer gray, so this thread was very timely. Can you tell us what mix was used in the wash you applied? Did you do anything additional to the tracks?(I would have loved to have seen some photos of the completed tank.) Thanks!
Cheers, Bob
Thanks for tossin' up the pics of this Tiger project. I'm getting ready to paint my first tank which is also an HL Tiger in panzer gray, so this thread was very timely. Can you tell us what mix was used in the wash you applied? Did you do anything additional to the tracks?(I would have loved to have seen some photos of the completed tank.) Thanks!
Cheers, Bob
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Hey Bob,
Well the base coat is 1943 Acryl Dunkengleb (I love saying that that word) Then it gets a coat of future floor polish and allowed to dry over night.
Next I mix Windsor Newton Oil paint #35 Raw Umber with thinner to make a filter (Extremely thin wash) This is used in the air brush. Then a bit darker wash of lamp black and the Raw Umber.
The the chips are done with raw umber as are the scratches.
Hope this helps!
Don
Well the base coat is 1943 Acryl Dunkengleb (I love saying that that word) Then it gets a coat of future floor polish and allowed to dry over night.
Next I mix Windsor Newton Oil paint #35 Raw Umber with thinner to make a filter (Extremely thin wash) This is used in the air brush. Then a bit darker wash of lamp black and the Raw Umber.
The the chips are done with raw umber as are the scratches.
Hope this helps!
Don
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Dunkengleb? (Yep a fun word… another for me is hemoglobin.) Wow… I wasn’t sure. It kinda looked like adirty lt. gray, probably just my monitor. If you were starting out with a dark panzer gray, what would you use for your first filter? I was thinking of maybe a light gray and brown/red. Would work OK? Or would a lamp black / brown/red be better?
Thanks and cheers, Bob</div>
Thanks and cheers, Bob</div>
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Brother Bob,
Me I like a very dirty weathered look. Not so much for when you are looking at in person but when it is photographed. I had the chance to work on the models for a motion picture that many people might have seen and when I looked at the models they were an absolute filthy mess. But when the film rolls that grime and dirt made them look great.
I always start with a filter of dark brown. Now here is what to do if you go with a solid panzer gray. Once you base coat is applied mix some flesh color into the panzer gray. Just enough to change the hue slightly. Then turn the air brush way down and shoot to model on the high areas. This will give a somewhat worn look and give the eye something interesting to do. Then go in with a filter. Blot at it in random areas. Now lock it down with a matte coat or a dull coat. Then a heavier wash on the lines and areas around bolts, nuts..etc. Now a bit of soot in the exhaust area. Some dirt on the engine covers. Then a light wash. Then dry brush to bring out the details. Now a final dull coat.
Hope this helps!
Don
Me I like a very dirty weathered look. Not so much for when you are looking at in person but when it is photographed. I had the chance to work on the models for a motion picture that many people might have seen and when I looked at the models they were an absolute filthy mess. But when the film rolls that grime and dirt made them look great.
I always start with a filter of dark brown. Now here is what to do if you go with a solid panzer gray. Once you base coat is applied mix some flesh color into the panzer gray. Just enough to change the hue slightly. Then turn the air brush way down and shoot to model on the high areas. This will give a somewhat worn look and give the eye something interesting to do. Then go in with a filter. Blot at it in random areas. Now lock it down with a matte coat or a dull coat. Then a heavier wash on the lines and areas around bolts, nuts..etc. Now a bit of soot in the exhaust area. Some dirt on the engine covers. Then a light wash. Then dry brush to bring out the details. Now a final dull coat.
Hope this helps!
Don
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt">Don, </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt">Thank you for your help! Could you elaborate a little on what you’ve suggested above? When you say ‘mix some fresh color into the panzer gray’ do you mean just reshoot it with panzer gray on a lower air pressure? </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt">If I’m using just one other color for the camo pattern, I’d shoot that on before applying the first dark brown filter, correct? Thanks again!
Cheers, Bob</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt">If I’m using just one other color for the camo pattern, I’d shoot that on before applying the first dark brown filter, correct? Thanks again!
Cheers, Bob</span></div>
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Yes Sir,
Take your fleshed out Panzer Gray...I mean a very small color change, that might not be noticed until it dries. Then you go in with the Filter First. The Filter is meant to blend and soften. Once you are happy with that. Take your darker wash and go to town. Now here is antoher little trick. Beforeyou place the wash..lets' say in a line. Touch the area with a brush loaded with clean thinner. You will see a much better capillary flow into the desired area. BIG THING to remember! Subtle.....is the key. (I have a problem with this area.)
Then take your base color add a tiny bit of white. Use a 000 brush and make some scratches, and chips. Then do the same with a dark brown, maybe even a few with the primer color of the real tank. Now when you are happy with that, make some grime of black and brown and heavily thinned. Then just touch an area say at the top of the hull. With a cotton swab pull the paint down to make rain streaks. Also use this where water would pool up and run down the tank.
Now how did your tank fuel? Chances are it was not a clean affair. Really dirty these areas up, but not the caps. Trust me you keep those clean to prevent dirt from getting into your fuel.
Don
Take your fleshed out Panzer Gray...I mean a very small color change, that might not be noticed until it dries. Then you go in with the Filter First. The Filter is meant to blend and soften. Once you are happy with that. Take your darker wash and go to town. Now here is antoher little trick. Beforeyou place the wash..lets' say in a line. Touch the area with a brush loaded with clean thinner. You will see a much better capillary flow into the desired area. BIG THING to remember! Subtle.....is the key. (I have a problem with this area.)
Then take your base color add a tiny bit of white. Use a 000 brush and make some scratches, and chips. Then do the same with a dark brown, maybe even a few with the primer color of the real tank. Now when you are happy with that, make some grime of black and brown and heavily thinned. Then just touch an area say at the top of the hull. With a cotton swab pull the paint down to make rain streaks. Also use this where water would pool up and run down the tank.
Now how did your tank fuel? Chances are it was not a clean affair. Really dirty these areas up, but not the caps. Trust me you keep those clean to prevent dirt from getting into your fuel.
Don



