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Old 03-21-2010 | 10:08 AM
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I am considering to use a simple digital sound recorder to implement the sound effect of say Gun firing, Machine gun and Turret turning etc. Is there a good sourceof such sound effect files available for the recording?</p>
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MG sounds you can get from any hollywood movie. Todays mgs, other then cal 50 have a different sound. Turret sounds....every tank sounded different. Early German was manual and Panther-Tiger had to have the engine running as power came off a drive shaft under the turret...no engine, no power traverse. With engine running, turrret sounds wouldn't be heard. [:-]

US Tanks in WW II generally had an electric whine. M-26/45/46 had electric traverse motor which gave off a loud whine. M-41 had a very loud, high whine. M-47 lower pitch and an electric/hydraulic traverse motor..with the occasional scream from the accumulator. All M-48s had a hydraulic setup with a loud &%!^%$#*& accumulator which always cut on when you wanted everything quiet. [:@]

You could probably get close to a Sherman turret traverse motor with an electric drill. It can be two staged, with high speed for aquiring the target and slower speed for final lay when he's in your periscope field of view.
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MG sounds you can get from any hollywood movie. Todays mgs, other then cal 50 have a different sound. Turret sounds....every tank sounded different. Early German was manual and Panther-Tiger had to have the engine running as power came off a drive shaft under the turret...no engine, no power traverse. With engine running, turrret sounds wouldn't be heard. [:-]

US Tanks in WW II generally had an electric whine. M-26/45/46 had electric traverse motor which gave off a loud whine. M-41 had a very loud, high whine. M-47 lower pitch and an electric/hydraulic traverse motor..with the occasional scream from the accumulator. All M-48s had a hydraulic setup with a loud &%!^%$#*& accumulator which always cut on when you wanted everything quiet. [:@]

You could probably get close to a Sherman turret traverse motor with an electric drill. It can be two staged, with high speed for aquiring the target and slower speed for final lay when he's in your periscope field of view.

Just a ponit of order. The PZ IV had an auxiliary power traverse engine. Deleted in the AUSF J Model to increase fuel capacity. Not sure about the PZIII?

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Thanks, I thought some later Pz IVs had power traverse but wasn't sure. Pz III was only manual. I have traversed some of these turrets and they are light and easy to move, maybe they felt the power wasn't needed. In a hurry, you can always have the driver swing to one direction or the other to help the initial lay.....the way Sturmgeschütz crews worked.

On that note, the Russian T-55 and T-62 turrets are very fast with manual and traverse very easy on a level....don't know how they'd be on a an steep incline with no real counterbalance for that gun. The T-80 and T-90s are supposed to have an unbelievably fast traverse....about 9 seconds for full 360.
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Thanks for all the response.... how about the gun firing sounds?
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Dependant entirely on caliber, open muzzle or muzzle brake. 37mm open muzzle sounds a lot different from a Pershings 90mm with that huge double baffle MB. A 76mm with open muzzle will be a sharper report over the same gun with a MB, which will be a "wider" or disbursed sound (for lack of better description) with more noise behind it. Not all were the huge bang or the Mickey Mouse sounds from most of the current RC tanks and the idiotic whole tank jump. For WW II, if you have the recording tech, check some WW II movies or documentaries and record the tank you want. May take some time finding the exact one and a lot of replaying the same thing a few times to record it, but at least you will have something representative. The M-41 has a VERY nasty snap when it fires and I can only compare it to someone firing a 44 magnum while everyone else has a 9mm.

If there is a military training post near you and you are able to get close to the firing range and can record..that's a good source..have to be off to the side, or the concussion will distort the sound. German MGs are a lot faster than US and the Russian 12.7 is about the same sound as the US cal 50 but a bit slower. If there is a pistol firing range near you, a decent sound can probably be recorded of someone firing a 44 or 45 magnum. Put the mic a few meters off to the side and maybe a meter in front. For a Sherman or Panzer III with 37 or 50mm, that would sound much better than the sounds on the tank.


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I can attest too the very NASTY Snap of the 44 Magnum,Oddly enough, the only hand gun I have ever fired. Don't really want to do it again. Almost lost an eardrum from that cannon of a hand gun.
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10-4 on the 44 mag. Not a fun gun to shoot...unless you're dirty Harry. That's not nearly as bad as the Charter Arms Bulldog 44 special. I used to carry one as my CYOA backup gun. 5 shot cylinder and only 19 oz. 5 rounds will make you want to stop. But for a great backup gun, small, light and a helluva punch.

That M-41 has a hyper velocity 76mm which has a MV far above the Sherman's. One can stand in the TC hatch all day looking through binoculars with the 90mm and soak up the dull boom...but that 76..no way[:@] Many M-41 crewmen have popped an eardrum of two by not wearing the manatory ear protection. It is similar what some guys used to do on a police pistol range for kicks .....everyone firing 38 sp and someone loads in a 357. [X(] It's like a 22 LR against a 105 howitzer. Does tend to wake you up.

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