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That T-28 would have been totally worthless in combat. Artillery could have gotten it on the move due to it's ultra slow speed. Only two were made and it would have the same problem as the Jagdtiger...good until it got to the next bridge or river.

Yea I do agree with that and the panzer probably would have run circles around it....but still awsome looking though....

maybe a british tortoise would be easier to build, it only has two tracks.And when you see it in the flesh it's pretty big !!!!!!!!!!!!!
heres some piccies of the one at Bovington.

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The Tortoise is one of my favorite back burner projects. I think it's number 17 on my bucket list. There is something about the paint on the barrel of that beast that makes me wonder. The wavy earth colored paint on the top of the barrel would blend in with the ground better for camo reasons, but wasn't the idea to paint the top of the barrel with light color paint so that it wouldn't absorb heat from the suns rays and warp the barrel and affect the accuracy? Somebody educate me.

a few bridges and tunnels in Europe might have imposed some issues.

Armchair tactician here, but I assume the intent on that barrel was simply to break up the outline. Viewed from the side, against say, a partially wooded background with sky behind, I can see that being somewhat effective. White on top would have been a dead giveaway from the air outside of winter conditions.

I can't recall which, but I saw something else (PzIV?) that had a barrel-specific paint job that made the vehicle look like it was a short-barrel variant when in fact it had a longer barrel.

I would be surprised that the effect of the suns rays on the barrel would have been considered, when dealing with the production/ammunition realities (shortcomings, compared to modern) of that time, coupled with the fact that the friction from a projectile travelling somewhere in the neighborhood of a half mile/second would *rapidly* change the temperature of the barrel on first firing, and every subsequent would increase the temperature far past temperatures imparted from the sun.

Not to disparage the old time craftsmanship exhibited by Western society at the time, simply that the accuracy levels possible (both in ammunition design and machining/casting/assembly) were nowhere near what they are today, tolerances being one large reason. I can see thermal characteristics and temperature of the material being incorporated in design today, but back then, I just can't see it. Is there some historical citation that reflects it was? Not to be argumentative, but I've been surprised before!

You make good points about this. I can't remember where I saw that barrel paint job idea. I know barrels were frequentlly wrapped with fabric coverings, but can't back that up with photos either. I also kinda remember the Navy doing that to the big guns on ships, but now I feel like I am in a hole and digging it deeper!

I do know that I sleep on dark sheets with a light colored top sheet. Photos on request.

From what I remember they painted the barrel like that because the germans would target the tanks with the biggest guns first

How the heck did I miss that when I visited Bovington!!!! Gives me a good reason to go back.

When the 76mm guns on Shermans started appearing, the gun tubes were painted blue/white from the normal 75mm length to disguise the new gun.

It always been curious to me the the Tortoise's designers designed the track so wide yet the sprocket so
relatively narrow( the two toothed rings close together). Perhaps it was due to relatively low expected speed.

Jerry

There was a post a week or so ago showing a really great T-28 that someone had scratch made.