well, i want to get into tanks, and i'm looking at the kv-1, bulldog, or pershing, all from henglong metal upgraded and smoke and sound. i'm curious which one is the largest, since it will help me in a future project to have a big tank to use for dimensions for the project. that and a big tank is always cool as well.

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The 1/16 Tiger I and the M26 Pershing are about the same size
but if you want bigger you could always get into 1/6
as for upgrade parts I think the Tiger I is better
I think there are more upgrade parts for the Tiger I than the M26 Pershing

Jon<br type="_moz" />

well, i'm only interested in allied tanks right now, so the pershing will be the biggest? i want to build a landing craft rc boat in 1/16ish scale, and i need to use the biggest allied tank available as a base so i'll have room for any tank that i'll want to put into it. so that's why the biggest. i'm also only interested in 1/16. i don't have the room for anything bigger than a 1/16. sorry, i should of put more information in the original post. also, how big is the mato sherman in comparison to the tanks i listed? that was one other i considered, but it looked like the smallest of the allied tanks available.

I believe the KV-1 is the bigger of the tanks you have mentioned. They are not in front of me right now but that is my recollection. It also has big brawny features that make it 'appear' more brutish and tank like....at least in my opinion

Perry

Still on that landing craft kick, eh? lol<div>
</div><div>I'm afraid I don't follow. There is no 1/16 tank that would be good as a standalone base for a landing craft, that could piggy back another 1/16 scale tank....maybe the unmade Maus or joining two tanks? If your talking 1/16 scale to piggy back 1/35 scale tanks....and maybe 1/24 (and that might be pushing it) that could be possible I guess. </div><div>
</div><div>Anyway, the largest Ally tank available is the KV. </div>

If you want Allied tanks I suggest Pershing. The Tamiya Pershing (HL's Pershing should be the same dimensions) is 21inches long (counting the barrel), 8 inches wide and roughly 7 inches high. The Tamiya KV-1 (HL's KV-1 is roughly the same) is 17 inches long (counting barrel), 8 1/2 inches wide and 7 inches high. I don't have a Sherman to give you the dimensions.

Duane

sorry for any confusion, i'm using the tank for dimensions so i don't make it to small, so that most tanks could fit on to it. thanks for the answers! so the kv1's the biggest, ok, so i'll go with that one then. thanks for all the help! a real quick question, what's the dimensions of the bulldog? i just want to know as well, it's one i've liked the look of for awhile.

What are the dimensions on Tamiya's Leopard? Seems that one is the largest of the tanks currently produced in 1:16.

if you can posted 3 jagdtigers into your vessel i supose anything will fit into

hey jettrooper02
i build one for my bulldogs heres a look see i maybe selling it this winter the beach at my summer place is always got to many people on it,rye
heres a movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m87ls-CLQUY

confused now

i've seen that lct before on youtube. good job on it. so, i think i'll go with a pershing in the end. i should be able to fit a couple of tanks in it if i use a pershing for the dimensions in the cargo area.

Of the allied tanks the Pershing will be the largest considering the main gun for total length.

It is true the KV is 'bigger' perhaps a half inch wider, but the main gun is short making overall shorter than the Pershing.

If you are considering sizing for the largest tank, the Leopard is the one to size to, it will guarentee any other tank will fit in the boat.

huh. does henglong make a leopard? i can't afford a tamiya anytime soon, maybe i could get one as a christmas gift, but that's about as soon as i could.

Actually, there's HE (Hobby Engine) who makes a Leopard and the Abrams....I think the Abrams may be bigger than the Leo...not sure, but that's what has been said. Electronics aren't that good..(again, as been said) but I think it may be good enough for what you want to do.

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i actually want to get into the local tank club near me once i can afford to go ir, so the hobbyengine isn't what i'm looking for. i like the look of the henglongs with them being metal, it's something that i'd like to have. might help where i'd get to run em the most. i have a lake near me that has a nice beach for rc boats and it's not that small either, it's big enough that it should be fun for tanks. you can't have any gas powered boats on the lake so the water's always calm to. i think a plastic track would fail there, so i want metal.

ok, so if i use a kv-1 for the spacing it looks like i'll be able to fit anything except the one tank that's on the bottom in your picture, that one i'd have to add a couple inch's of room for. so it's looking like kv-1 now, since i can always position the tanks with the barrels elevated so more can fit. it's looking like 2 tanks will be a reasonable amount for one landing craft, probably more if smaller tanks are being put in.<br type="_moz" />

I'm not so sure metal tracks are better in sandy conditions. There are numerous factors to consider. But if you're driving mainly on sandy or dirt surfaces....plastic may be just as well as metal...maybe even better in sandy conditions. In fact, given the plastics ability to flex a little, may mean less hang ups. Weight can always be adjusted by adding to the hull or inside it. The lighter the tank, depending on how loose the sand is may give more surface travel than digging itself in cause of the weight. Wider tracks with less holes in them for track guides may combat digging in like the KV.<div>
<div>Metal track to metal sprocket is more likely to crush sandpartialssince there really isn't going to be a lot of give (depending on the tank and set up), meaning more wear over time (and not nearly as cheap for replacement.) Again, more weight of the metal tracks may cause some digging in. Before adding metal tracks to my Pershing, the plastic tracks of the Pershing has by far, done better than any of my tanks at the beach. Could be other factors, but there was minimaldiggingin. </div></div><div></div><div>Either way, there's pro and cons of both. Plastic tracks will likely break when something wedges between the sprocket and tracks (but cheap to replace.) Metal tracks aren't immune from damage either. The pins will likely bend, warping the tracks altogether...pull out the wallet on that cause I'm willing to bet it's gonna be a quite of few bent pins. I try to minimize the amount of sand driving I do and the only reason I have driven them on the beach is strictly to see how well it does (and cause the beach is 200yds away which give me a good reason to check out the hotties. lol) WWII tanks weren't meant for sand travel, or extensive sand travel so I adhere to the same rules as a modeler.</div>

the beach is rocks actually, so i don't need to worry about sand as much as a actual beach. so plastic may be better for this? that helps my wallet a lot, since the metal track tanks are a lot more than plastic. that may mean getting a tank a lot sooner than i planned, which means i can get into tanks sooner than i planned as well.

Well, that's totally different! lol

What kind of rocks are we talking about here? Tiny aquarium pebbles or rocks you can skip water with? At any event, you don't want rocks of any size wedged between any tracks, period. Just be cautious when you drive and let off the stick if it locks. Either tracks would do well as far as riding a linear path on small gravel... turning or sharp turns, that's where the problems begin.

Anyway, plastic vs metal tracks are a preference, not mandatory. Many people have driven their tanks stock with plastic tracks and seem to be fine with that.<br type="_moz" />

ok. so the rocks are a mix of all of those really, it's just rocks in general, small, skipping, some larger, some more dirt than rocks, but mainly rocks. enough to make it uncomfortable to walk bearfoot over them for sure.  so i think i'll go with a plastic version or metal one, which ever will depend on how badly i want a tank at the time, if i think i can wait longer for the better tank then i will. also, just a quick question on the mato sherman(i think i'll order from matomart, they have the best selection i've seen), will it do good out of the box for a starter tank? i've always liked shermans, so it would be fun to have an rc version. especially since i'm going to make a landing craft, they were the tanks that were actually used in them. i'm pretty sure kv-1's were never used in landing crafts.