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That's my M-26.....cable, rod, strap, they were all improvised with what was available Korea only...WW II hadn't got to that point. The reason for so much mg ammo was due to the vast hordes of Chinese attacking in 3 to 5 waves, which rapidly ate up all the basic load in a hurry. Also many spare cal 50 barrels were carried as they burned out fast. I had 9 on my tank, all marked with the # of clicks for proper headspace. These were normally found in one of the long sponsons.
Here's a typical example....appologize for the blurred photo....all I have, but shows a cable setup...it works. |
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I've always wondered about the odd protrusion on the left side of the gun mantlet - what's that?
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that's a bracket for field removal of main gun and mantlet. never saw it used and it wasd deleted from later models and M-46.
Here's a couple more photos o0f stowage in Korea. |
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Bill did they camo any of the
Pershings in WWII and did any other countries use them in WWII |
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need to know what goes here mine just has a slotted hole here and i took all ammp boxes off the side nothing there now
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Bill, do you know were we can find pictures of WW2 M26 for reference, ie: camo, storage, units.
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Here's a link for Pershing in ww2
http://www.raidersmerciless.com/showthread.php?t=1748 |
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Thanks Yellowshaker that link was interesting.
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Try doing a google search for 3rd armor division ww2. It should yield some results for pics of the pershings.
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Note that the footman loops are not equally placed on both sides of the Pershing from the factory. There are more on the right side than the left.
Squadron Signal publications has an excellent book on the Pershing with lots of period and postwar photos and good historical infomation. Osprey's New Vanguard series provides even more information including the various versions and good technical information. The best of course is the book Pershing by the late Dick Hunnicutt. This forum has lots of great photos and information that can be found on our past builds dating back to 2006. The most data you'll find will probably be from 2006-2008. |
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Gregg, that's the infantry radio antenna. Main antenna was behind the TC with the MB-50 mast base. The inf radio used a shorter 4 ft antenna with either the mast base MB-50 (came with tank) or rubber whip mount on later models. In some models, mainly the unit XO had a third antenna for aircraft radio. This was mounted in front of the loader near his periscope. Same as infantry radio ant.
Camo, Pershings generally stayed plain OD. They weren't in the war that long and many never saw any action at all. Swathy and Yellowshaker have posted some nice sources. |
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Don't believe you will find much in 3AD. The 3d AD went to Germany in 1956 from Ft Knox. I wanted to transfer and go with them, by my CO disapproved it. By 1956, the standard mediums were M-47 and 48s, the Pershings being replaced in Europe starting in 1953/54, as the M-47 became available. In Korea, the M-46 was the medium, the M-26 being replaced by the M-46 (new or retrofitted by Tokyo Ord Depot) until summer 1958 when they were replaced by M-47s.
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ORIGINAL: pattoncommander Gregg, that's the infantry radio antenna. Main antenna was behind the TC with the MB-50 mast base. The inf radio used a shorter 4 ft antenna with either the mast base MB-50 (came with tank) or rubber whip mount on later models. In some models, mainly the unit XO had a third antenna for aircraft radio. This was mounted in front of the loader near his periscope. Same as infantry radio ant. Camo, Pershings generally stayed plain OD. They weren't in the war that long and many never saw any action at all. Swathy and Yellowshaker have posted some nice sources. just have to find a pic of what it looks like cause just having a hole there looks like it's not finished i did take all ammo boxes off the side going to make footman loops to tie camo nets and tarps on |
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If you want to mount an antenna, just make an antenna base like the other and you'll be OK. As far as mounting canvas etc, you really don't need to make the loops...just have rope/straps around and tuck them in behind...you won't see the loops anyway..outside of maybe a couple jerry cans strapped to the rear fender, where you should show a loop holding the strap. .
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Here are a couple photos of mast bases..The M-29 Weasel has the MS 86, the short base with three antenna masts.
My Dodge WC-51 has the MB-48 (misnamed in my previous post as MB-50.) this has the thick "fishpole" antenna. The bast base can bee seen on both sides, as I had the main radio (SCR-508) in the center and an BC-1000 on the right side. Either mast base can be used as a secondary/inf radio on the Pershing with the short antenna. Later Pershings (1953 on)with the new AN/GRC-3 radios had the RT-70 radio for Inf contact and they required the smaller MS-86 base. Both are easy to make...paint the middle section on the MB-48 and base on the MB-86 dark wine....they are ceramic. Hope this helps. |
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ORIGINAL: pattoncommander Here are a couple photos of mast bases..The M-29 Weasel has the MS 86, the short base with three antenna masts. My Dodge WC-51 has the MB-48 (misnamed in my previous post as MB-50.) this has the thick "fishpole" antenna. The bast base can bee seen on both sides, as I had the main radio (SCR-508) in the center and an BC-1000 on the right side. Either mast base can be used as a secondary/inf radio on the Pershing with the short antenna. Later Pershings (1953 on)with the new AN/GRC-3 radios had the RT-70 radio for Inf contact and they required the smaller MS-86 base. Both are easy to make...paint the middle section on the MB-48 and base on the MB-86 dark wine....they are ceramic. Hope this helps. nice pics well i didn't do antenna yet but i will be here is just the one side i put some footman loops on and strapped the camo net on changed the commanders arms took all ammo boxes off touched up where they were, still working on it Thanks Again Bill Greg |
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Not sure if these pics are much help, but here ya go...
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ORIGINAL: roscoedude Not sure if these pics are much help, but here ya go... Thanks Roscoedudeexcellent pics |
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Your welcome, I found a better one after looking through my books.
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oh ok cool now i see what Bill was refering to for the wine colour, the ceramic base at the bottom
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Very unusual ant base setup with both antennas having the MB-86 mast bases. . (another mistype from me as I wrote MS- instead of MB (mast base) on my Weasel. This Pershing is the platoon sgt's tank., Possible he had the new AN/GRC-3 radio which did use the smaller MB-86 and thinner antenna masts MS-116-117-118. The older SCR-508 radio required the older base due to the ground wire size and restricted length of 22 inches, plus the very thick (3/4 inch) antenna. The newer radio was free of these retsictions.
Roscoedude; Great shot of the Pershing showing the antenna and base. Very clear. That's the standard Infantry radio antenna normally the BC-1000. |
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Hey guys, if your interested, here's a link to the PDF book "M26 Pershing walk-around", where I got that pic from.
[link]http://military-machine.blogspot.com/2010/04/walk-around-m26-pershing.html[/link] Enjoy, Dean |
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new pics, added antennas, worked on mud a bit more, added more footman loops on the side
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plus i added model car headlight lenses on the lights
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ORIGINAL: Airbrushler plus i added model car headlight lenses on the lights |
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