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HI everyone I have not seen a official thread for these Truggies so thought i would start one. I want to see what MODS/UPGRADES you guys have done, What problems you have run across, Likes, Dislikes Etc... I want this to be a place of learning for those that have the Raze ST or are thinking about buying this Truggy. Thanks let the fun begin!

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There is a RCU Review here, I think this is one great review.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=955

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devilchrist

Can someone first explain if there are any major differences between the Raze buggy and the ST?

** well I'll just take bits off the tower's page.

BUGGY:
46tooth spur gear
18 ball bearings
27 CX engine with pull start

Vehicle-
Length: 18.5" (470mm)
Width: 11.7" (298mm)
Height: 7.7" (195mm)
Weight: 7.7lbs (3.5kg) approx.
Wheelbase: 12.5" (317mm)

Front Tread: 10.1" (258mm)
Rear Tread: 10.6" (270mm) wheels on-center side-to-side
Front Track: 11.5" (292mm)
Rear Track: 12" (304mm) outer edges of wheels
Ground Clearance: 1.8" (45mm)


TRUGGY:

62tooth spur gear,
20 ball bearings
27 CS engine with starter

Length: 20.1" (530mm)
Width: 16.5" (420mm)
Height: 8" (205mm)
Weight: 9lbs (4.1kg)
Wheelbase: 12.5" (317mm)
Tread: 13.25" (336mm) wheels on center side to side
Track: 16" (406mm) wheels at outer edges
Ground Clearance: 1.9" (49mm)


***EDIT***
Found out that shock mount towers are different also. the truggy ones have less holes and will fit the Buggy, but not the other way. At least according to tower.

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Those are really the major diff, but the ST is put together much better with more aluminum parts. To me the raze st is the best buy for the money. I dont care what anyone says i can compete with the big dogs with just a little work.

devilchrist

1.3 lbs is alot of weight.

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Helps keep it on the track so its not flying all over the place

ilanstylz

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I havent had time to break in my raze yet, but just from the looks of it, it seems like its going to be a really fun st...... Here are a few pics of when it first came in:

bhcvc

I just got mine in camo a few days ago. Looks really nice. I do notice where some costs were saved such as the philips screws instead of hex screws and hinge pins that use e-clips to capture them. But it looks well built. The shocks are pretty beefy and shock/spring setup seems to have good compliance. I think it'll be a bit soft when taking on big jumps at the track, but new oil and springs should do fine.

I'm going to be converting mine to brushless. If anyone wants a spare engine, filter, pipe, mounts, brakes, fuel tank, and starter for cheap, let me know!

I'll keep everyone updated on my BL conversion if you're interested.

devilchrist

definitely keep me in the loop of your brushless. seems like hardest thing to get is the motor mount?

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i would be interested in the motor and stuff

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I decided to get the red Raze ST. cant wait to break them in. I am going to try and prove to the guys at the track that this Truggy can compete stock, with a little tuning. Wish me luck, I know ill need it. Also anyone have any tips on tweaks and what not i can do?

bhcvc

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I agree. I think it's a myth that you must get the top tier truggies to be competitive at any level. I think if you're simply competing at the club level, you can be competitive. The Raze ST has plenty of adjustments to help make you competitive. And if you get beat by the guy running a $500+ kit with a $250 engine and tons of other mods, well, at least you know you spent less than $200 total and you gave him a good run.

For club racing, the first thing I'd do is change the tires. See how it behaves with tires that suit your track. From there, you can slowly pick away at other items like shock springs and oil, F/C/R diff oils, toe and camber, and roll center.

BTW, check your PM regarding my engine and stuff.

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Thanks for the info, what weight diff oil would you recommend?

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Think we can get some of you guys with the Raze in hand to do an informal review? At the least get some detailed pics and maybe your thoughts on this Truggy? Thanks for all the feedback we have been getting

devilchrist

from the buggy guys tips, i've decided to run 7k/10k/5k, 40W shocks.

I may pick up 3k associated diff oil and change to 5k/7k/3k

also there's ofna shims that you'll need to pick up for the rear diff. seems the gear mesh needs a bit of tightening up.

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Devil, think you can post the part number and a good place to get those shims? Thanks!

devilchrist

Ofna Differential Case Shim 13x16x0.2mm 9.5 RTR Pro (4)

Tower part number LXCWP5

[link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=++&FVSEARCH=LXCWP5+]shims[/link]

devilchrist

here's some info about shim installs.

http://rc411.com/pages/howto.php?howto=35&page=1

devilchrist

Here's another link.. to a upgrade on the buggy. some stuff are still very useful.

[link]http://www.mediafire.com/?5rmjjijhjog[/link]

please sent thanks to Calin666 for going through the 50+ pages and putting it all together.

ilanstylz

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I thought about making my raze a racing truggy, but I am for now going to use it mainly as a basher....... I have my RC8 I will be using to race, so I want to see how the raze will hold up to a beating, and I will probably only upgrade the engine and tires and thats about it for now since I'm currently working on setting up my RC8 to be race ready...............



Hopefully I'll have my raze broken in within the next few days......... The weather here has been horrible so I wanna make sure I do it on a nice warm day at least......... I'll post alot of pics and vids once I break it in and bash the crap out of it......

devilchrist

I live in chicago and it's hard to even find a spot to break in the raze let alone go bashing.

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Got my raze today, wouldnt ya know it. I tried starting it and im getting metal clanking sound. Took it apart and what did i find? the piston is scratched badly and doesnt move freely at all. I guess ill call either tower hobbies or Duratrax tomrw and see what they say.

staronfire

That's crazy: i got my raze st today and i too have a metal clanking sound. i'm a plane guy and know next to nothing about cars so i didn't really give it much thought. i started the truggy with a drill and just figured i was turning the motor too fast. i just don't know any better yet. what i did notice is that the lid to the fuel tank doesn't make a good seal. seals just enough to keep the fuel flowing but leaks all over the place. also, the rubber fitting between the manifold and pipe keeps popping off the pipe side. i guess i'll try new zip ties. i'de really like to know what kind of oils and springs to put on this thing. if people have part numbers that would be great. thanks

devilchrist

you have scratches on the top of the piston? I have the RT-X and clanking sound went away after few breakin runs. it was more of a "clink" than a "clank"

rcdriv3r

well I just ordered mine yesterday and it should be here in about a week or less....can't wait! from the reviews and videos i have seen, this thing rocks for the price

If you find out what the "clinkn" or "clank" sound was let us know so we (getting the truck soon) can look for the problem if need be. thanks, happy driving!