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Old 01-08-2011 | 06:33 AM
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Hey guys I am wanting to get my first warbird and not sure where to start:

I have a SPE 43cc motor that just came out of an 80" Geebee that runs great and needs a new home. I have been looking at ESM, Vq warbirds, BH Models and a bunch of other lesser know sites, and the problem I am running across is that most of there 75" to 80" birds are suggesting 26 to 32 cc motors. I really like the looks of the Stuka from all 3 companies above but is the 43 just way to much motor?


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Old 01-08-2011 | 08:46 AM
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NO

I fly a 50cc in a KMP 71" FW190 - still needed nose weight. Better more motor than dead weight.


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Old 01-08-2011 | 08:54 AM
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FYI
Most wings and fuselages on model warbirds between 70 and 85 inch are stronger than 100 inch aerobatic airplanes which fly with 100cc +...
Warbirds are flown very gentle compare to the areobatic airplanes
Almost all engine size recommendations of MFG are based on the minimum to fly that model.
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The CMP AT6 will work well with a 43cc engine. Running a Poulan 42 cc in mine and it needed a little bit of nose weight added. I fly nose heavy anyway. G -Pete provided the radial engine and it runs really well. Besides, there is no such thing as too much motor ! Paul
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Old 01-08-2011 | 09:54 AM
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The 43cc will be perfect for the Stuka. The ESM is a much nicer bird than the BH Models. Get yourself a 20X10 threebladed prop and you'll be all set and no retracts to worry about. I'd recommend the B model over the D model. Should be a great flyer, enjoy it.
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NO

I fly a 50cc in a KMP 71" FW190 - still needed nose weight. Better more motor than dead weight.


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Does that mean I could put a 50cc in a 73" ESM109 and be ok Pete??

edit: seriously, My dad has a 86" P-51, the 73" 109 is closest in actual scale than anything available Iam aware of.. The plane handles a DLE 30cc just fine but Iwonder about the speed and power differences..

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OH MY GOD
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Curious but why the B model and not the D ?
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OH MY GOD
Ialso think I am going to get a moki 250 and put it on a VQ FW 190.. I wont need the cowl ;-)

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Speaking of FW 190 and Moki 250

When the guys hang on the Airworld 102inch FW 190 Moki's with 215 and 250cc everyone goes gaga and drools - not one word about "over-powered"
But when you mount a 50cc on a 71 inch - a bird just 70% , 50% of the weight - the engine 5(!!) times smaller  in displacement and only 30% of the weight - that is wrong......

hahahahaha


the 50 cc fits completely in the cowl of the KMP
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The B over the D????? Why it that Barry? I`m doing a Ziroli 80" converted to D right now. Whats the word on that.
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I've got my SPE 40cc in my CMpro 71" Fw-190, not problems at all, And I'm also still carrying lead in the nose!! It flies great and spins the 18x8 3-blade prop with ease. That's why I over engined, so I could spin a larger prop and make it look just that little bit better

If I had my time again, I would not hesitate for one second to do it again.

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I had the 43cc SPE in a World Models 80inch Zero for several seasons. It was a great flyer.
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love the third pic with the B-17 in the backround ! really cool !

I was suprised to see a 40 cc cowl in a 71" plane so perfectly nicely done indeed !
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Thanks for all the help guys.
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love the third pic with the B-17 in the backround ! really cool !

I was suprised to see a 40 cc cowl in a 71'' plane so perfectly nicely done indeed !
That was a wingspan models 1/6 B-17. It re-kitted itself after elevator flutter..... it was a beautiful model. I never got a chance to chase it around the sky It would have been great to see the same scale models in the air.

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I've got my SPE 40cc in my CMpro 71'' Fw-190, not problems at all, And I'm also still carrying lead in the nose!! It flies great and spins the 18x8 3-blade prop with ease. That's why I over engined, so I could spin a larger prop and make it look just that little bit better

If I had my time again, I would not hesitate for one second to do it again.

Thanks

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Where did you buy your Fw-190 airframe? I've looked all over and I can't find one like yours. Thanks.
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Does anybody know where I can find an 80" wingspan FW-190 ARF? I've got an electric power system that weighs 4.8 lbs ( motor + batteries + esc + prop/spinner ). It's the equivalent of a 1.60.
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ESM is coming out with a Fw-190D in the spring. VQ and YT will have them sometime in March they think. Should be a perfect plane for an electric setup. They also have a great P-39 that is another great plane for electric since the nose is so small.


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I have a Fuji 43cc EI in a Willhobby FW190 with 72" wingspan. It flies great with this motor combo. Was a real dog with Fuji 32cc in it before that.
Just remember to use big motor in radial cowled planes and you will not have a problem hiding it in the cowl.
Great choices will be Zero, corsair, FW, etc.
By the way, I'm glad you found an SPE 43cc that runs well. Mine was a dog compared to the Fuji 43cc, could not even give it away to any club members.
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ORIGINAL: kmtranmd

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Just remember to use big motor in radial cowled planes and you will not have a problem hiding it in the cowl.
Great choices will be Zero, corsair, FW, etc.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
or a p-47 ,,, dummy radial coming soon
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Old 01-25-2011 | 10:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: G-Pete

NO

I fly a 50cc in a KMP 71'' FW190 - still needed nose weight. Better more motor than dead weight.


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Yeah, sounds good to me. Stick it in a 70ish wingspan radial engine type warbird, esm FW190, hellcat, corsair, Ki-84,or zero come to mind. Personally I think the Ki-84 would be the coolest choice, being way more unique down at the field.
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That motor would also be perfect for the Hanger 9 P-47. A great flying plane and there's enough room in the cowl to fit that motor in. Just make sure you throw away the retracts and get some air operated ones from Robart or Sierra.


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[link=http://www.vqwarbirds.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=78&osCsid=4f 7198425089c58ff68bb1aa3ad8df2e]EMS La-7[/link] is perfect for that 43cc.
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Old 01-26-2011 | 03:29 PM
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After reading these posts I guess a BGX-1 3500 OS wouldn't be to much for ESM 71 Bear CAT even thought it calls for 108 two stroke???


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